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[Forest_Keeper]

I think the whole point of the story isn't about when can we see it, it's about by the time you can see it, are you ready for the wild ride?

It should be pretty close to the shift itself, once it is blatantly clear there is something beside the sun.

It wouldn't do you any harm if you prepare early, even *IF* this is a hoax after all. If you want to make sure it is real before deciding to prepare, it might be a bit too late by the time you find out.

 

[recall15]

I think the whole point of the story isn't about when can we see it, it's about by the time you can see it, are you ready for the wild ride?

It should be pretty close to the shift itself, once it is blatantly clear there is something beside the sun.

You can be prepared before you can see These Moon Sized Red Cross in The Sky, `cause the roads at that time will be destroyed -most the Bridges- and the borders closed!!!

 

[Kanigo2]

I have niether lost hope recall, nor am I confused.


I have been victimized---- antwan himself has been also.. It makes it hard to speak of anything, when you cant even muster the courage to open google.


I am not confused, just bitter, and literally, standing still--- lest I do something stupid...

Antwans good people... Charlie has never spoken to ,or of me-- so I have no real relationship with him.


That is definately a factor in this situation..

Denial is very hard for me now recall.. I am more up to acceptance... /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif



What has happened, in the last year-- defines itself.

 

[recall15]

Speaking of Ancient Drawings...

The Z pinch event and the 52 rays

from:
Viewzone...

 

[KerrTexas]

Speaking of Ancient Drawings...

All I see are some photographs of some Petroglyphs included in your post.

Are you inferring that those petroglyphs are part of an end of time prophecy ?

LOL !

This time you stepped into my arena, Recall.

If you really want to learn about them, you can read all about them in our reports, available through the San Bernardino County Museum :

27(2) 1979. PETROGLYPHS, A FURTHER STUDY, THE 1978 REPORT ON THE BLACK CANYON PROJECT OF THE MOJAVE DESERT, W. G. Turner.

29(1) 1981. PETROGLYPH STUDY EXPANDED: THE 1979 REPORT ON THE BLACK CANYON PROJECT OF THE MOJAVE DESERT, W.G. Turner & B.S. Trupe.

30(4) 1983. PETROGLYPH STUDY DEVELOPING, THE 1980 REPORT ON THE BLACK CANYON PROJECT OF THE MOJAVE DESERT, W.G. Turner & B.S. Trupe.

38(1) 1991. HALLORAN SPRING PETROGLYPHS , W.G. Turner, and THE VAN DYKE PAPERS: HISTORIC ROUTES IN THE MOJAVE DESERT, W.Chambers.

40(2), 1993. TECTONIC SYNTHESIS OF SAN GORGONIO PASS & SAN TIMOTEO BADLANDS, D.M. Morton & J.C. Matti; OPAL CLIFFS SITE G, A PETROGLYPH STUDY, W.G. Turner; ABSTRACTS FROM PROCEEDINGS, 1993 DESERT RESEARCH SYMPOSIUM.

41(1,2), 1994. THE ROCK ART OF BLACK CANYON, W.G. Turner.

Your inference really is like trying to force 20 pounds of garbage to fit into a 5 pound box.

This also demonstrates why people should be more careful about what 'some' people will do in twisting the truth into complete nonsense.

 

[recall15]

This time you stepped into my arena, Recall.

If you really want to learn about them, you can read all about them in our reports, available through the San Bernardino County Museum :

Thanks for the info...

Speaking of Ancient Drawings...

All I see are some photographs of some Petroglyphs included in your post.

Are you inferring that those petroglyphs are part of an end of time prophecy ?

LOL !

These images were the last thing these ancient people saw on the sky before the Pole-shift arond 13980 BC, they share it on Rocks or ancient paints in caves...

Maybe this time we will experience the same event /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Your inference really is like trying to force 20 pounds of garbage to fit into a 5 pound box.

You can use a Trash Compactor to solve that problem...
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[timecycle]

Hi Recall,

The photos do resemble the PX corona images you posted ...

13980 BC + 2012 would be about 15992 yrs before 2012 ....

If PX does orbit on a 3600 yr orbit, then Id expect it to have been around 14400 yrs ago,
Id estimate maybe the poleshift should had occurred about 12388 BC...IF it did happen and
was expected to be done by PX ....although I think Poleshifts have occurred for other reasons
in the past..

 

[KerrTexas]

These images were the last thing these ancient people saw on the sky before the Pole-shift arond 13980 BC, they share it on Rocks or ancient paints in caves...

Are you saying that the ancient people saw an Antelope in the sky before the Pole-Shift around 13,090 B.C. ?

Maybe the pole-shift caused an effect on gravity and Antelope went flying around in the air.

Um, ok !

Most of the Petroglyphs hardly date past 7,000 years, some have been dated older, however, those usually are extremely difficult to make out due to wear from weathering, other natural causes, people who have been damaging the ancient inscriptions, and some people even try to chisel them out to sell.

The Petroglyphs in the photograpghs you posted include the Medicine Wheel. This was not even in use 7,000 plus years ago. To find out what the Medicine Wheels mean, you need to look through the various sites around the internet, because the Wheels and Sacred Circles meant something a bit different among the different Tribes.

If you like viewing petroglyphs, one that is stunning has been named "Newspaper Rock " in Utah. Although these sets of Petroglyphs are difficult to date, they do figure that they were were created by several ancient cultures beginning some 1,500 years ago.

If you take a close look at the photograph, you will see the spoked wheel. And the spoked wheel has nothing to do with what these people saw in the sky.

Best Picture I Could Find

I will grant you that some images of the ancient rock art do seem to be of objects seen in the sky, however, this is not what the Wheel represents, and is an Earth symbol, nothing to do with the sky.

The link following does appear to be either a fireball or meteor. If you explore the site a bit more, you will run across photographs of the area we did our research in, and are included in-depth within the publiscations I listed in the previous post.

Eastern Sierra Rock Art

We spent alot of time researching the Petroglyphs, and to have somebody come along and make those kind of claims is frustrating, if not insulting. I know that you are only posting what somebody else has said, but will tell you here and now, that the petroglyphs in the photographs you pasted here, are not of any scenarios of doom, past or future. Period.

 

[recall15]

yet another:

This said:

Quoted:
It is in the "cursive" style where individual letters are combined and are read from right to left, from top to bottom. Although there is not enough translation completed at this writing to determine the specific message, the multiple references to "breed" and "pedigree," as well as references to fleeing from "poisonous powder" (dust) and "painful light," is quite interesting and suggest either a prophecy, or an event in the history of the authors. end quoted from:

To Traduction...

 

[KerrTexas]

Regarding the Trash Compactor, it would seem more appropriate for you, than me. I am not the one pacing up and down the sidewalk with a The End Is Near sign.

Should be more diligent, Recall, somebody got a picture from outside your apartment. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[recall15]

i made a mistake, the date is 12,950 BC

Caption said:
[Above (left): Virtual image of the intense auroral plasma column as viewed at an angle of inclination, not to scale. Above (right): Conceptual view of the Birkeland sheath filaments surrounding Earth (28 close pairs). The relativistic electron flow is downwards toward Antarctica. The current bundle above Antarctica twists in counter-clockwise rotation. By convention, the Birkeland currents and ion flow is upwards toward the Arctic. Not yet completely resolved is a bend in the upper filament sheath that allows the upper plasmoids and column to be seen at northern latitudes.]

Quoted:
The term z-pinch originates from experiments where physicists made extremely high current to flow through thin wires that were arranged vertically in a tubular formation. They noticed that the energy quickly vaporized the wires, but the magnetic field generated by these paths remained and contained (or "pinched") the stream of energy, collapsing the streams of energy toward the center of the tube-like configuration -- called the z-axis. When the streams of energy converge, they form unique shapes that persist and can be observed as Birkeland elements, named for their discoverer.

If the Earth was zapped by high energy radiation, either from the Sun or the Galactic core, the planet would be surrounded with distinct lines of energy, converging at the North and South pole. These bands would continue to extend well out from the planet's poles and into space and would be visible from almost every point on Earth -- each with its own unique perspective.

end Quoted...
from:

The Previous Doomsday...

 

[recall15]

Nice picture...

More:

Oddly, repeated experiments show a preference for 56 "rays" or distinct bands of energy. This same number is often depicted in the ancient petroglyphs!



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[KerrTexas]

It is in the "cursive" style where individual letters are combined and are read from right to left, from top to bottom. Although there is not enough translation completed at this writing to determine the specific message, the multiple references to "breed" and "pedigree," as well as references to fleeing from "poisonous powder" (dust) and "painful light," is quite interesting and suggest either a prophecy, or an event in the history of the authors.

Baloney.

You can paste pictures of Petroglyphs until this site exceeds its bandwidth again, won't change the fact that these inscriptions have nothing to do with prophecies of doom for us. These people had enough to worry about in their day, let alone to worry about somebody 10,000 years later.

I have said what I had to say regarding the petroglyphs, and if anyone prefers to buy into the nonsense about the petroglyphs, that is their choice, all the more the pity.

 

[Kanigo2]

Regarding the Trash Compactor, it would seem more appropriate for you, than me. I am not the one pacing up and down the sidewalk with a The End Is Near sign.

Should be more diligent, Recall, somebody got a picture from outside your apartment.



""We tried a desperate game and lost. But we are tough men used to tough ways, and we have to abide by the consequences." -- Cole Younger

Dont do that Kerr.. Its not true and it doesn't suit ya..

(your kinda bad at it).

I bet ya have another type of sarcasm, that you are good at, but that one may need a lot of refinement.


And BTW thanks..for previous stuff..

 

[KerrTexas]

Dont do that Kerr.. Its not true and it doesn't suit ya..

(your kinda bad at it).

I bet ya have another type of sarcasm, that you are good at, but that one may need a lot of refinement.


And BTW thanks..for previous stuff..

Y/W..anytime. Can't express how happy I am to see you posting here.

The sarcasm ? Yeah, you're right ( sigh ), Recall is much better than I am at that, as far as maintaining humor in them, and that was the only picture I could find of a End is Near sign that even came close to what I had in mind.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that the petroglyphs in the photographs have been studied for years, and I was a member of a crew that did just that in the Mojave Desert. Those publications listed above are a result of our work, and it was difficult work to do. We must have sorted through a minimum of 10,000 Petroglyphs, and knowing the history of the rock art and people that created the inscriptions, makes explainations as pasted above, a bit hard to take.

Whether the world ends soon, it may do so, however, none of "those" petroglyphs are portraying such a thing, and to indicate that they do is like spitting in the faces of the people that have spent "years" in research and trying to protect them from people doing exactly what the site that was used as source has done.

I would encourage anyone who does have an interest in Petroglyphs to take the time to really find out more about them, and learn more about the people that did the inscriptions, from the Museums, the publications such as those we wrote, but not from fringe sites making up a bunch of baloney.

 

[Forest_Keeper]

STRASBOURG, France – European leaders enthusiastically praised President Barack Obama's new Afghan strategy at a NATO summit Saturday but held their ground on a central disagreement and offered only military trainers and extra security forces for upcoming elections.

 

[Darby]

Kerr,


I think that these last two posts are what we classify as passive-aggressive. But what do I know. I'm probably one of "your kind" and my opinion is likely rubbish to be dismissed by one specidic group of researchers who appear to speak for "we".

 

[KerrTexas]

I think that these last two posts are what we classify as passive-aggressive. But what do I know. I'm probably one of "your kind" and my opinion is likely rubbish to be dismissed by one specific group of researchers who appear to speak for "we".

Aye.

Keep in mind, as so aptly pointed out, everyone IS free to choose what they want to believe, even it is in fact a wrong thing to believe in. So any rubbish produced by "our kind" just because of years of research and experience "should be" be dismissed by those reseachers of the "other kind" that produce a "belief" just because.

Ask Bernie Madoff's 4,800 clients who got bilked out of $64.8 billion in the giant Ponzi scheme.

I agree with Forest Keeper, what would NASA know compared to somebody that bought a $50 telescope from Wal-Mart and a $200 degree from affordabledegrees.com, you know the "University" where you can get a degree with :

No Studies
No Attendance
No Waiting
No Examinations

in as little as 5 days !

I know I've already have had enough with the space junk that NASA has been feeding us with, and I certainly won't put up with it anymore.

 

[RainmanTime]

Forest Keeper:

You should know better not to argue with a pro who is definitely a know-it-all.

Perhaps you do not know that recall15 has a long history here of leaving links and quoting material that waves red flags of gloom and doom about some upcoming event. Perhaps you also do not know that recall15 has been absolutely incorrect in every single one of these "warnings" of the future he was posting. So with his batting record being zero, I would say that those who believe the stories he is peddling for the next big future event are lacking in some critical thinking skills.

As for KerrTexas: He is a lot like me, in that rarely does he speak with authority on a topic he does not know a lot about. Yet when you look at the range of topics recall15 posts on (even though none of what he posts are his own words, or research), I guess we are supposed to assume that recall15 is knowledgeable on all these topics...? Hmmph.

Believe what you wish. But if you think it is not harmful to believe things are true that have little (or no) evidence, then perhaps you should research the War Of The Worlds broadcast that took place in America back in the 1950s...to see what "belief without foundation" can result in... far from harmless.

RMT

 

[Forest_Keeper]

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - A Navy lawyer who clashed with superiors over defense tactics for a Guantanamo detainee has been fired from the case of a Canadian accused of killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, officials said Saturday.