Hello 2014....

Now, the pièce de résistance would have been if they'd had the forethought to construct what Cosmo suggested in his question by having an earlier version of themselves here on the forum to correspond with. I can even envision heartfelt conversations with the younger begging for more info, the older version giving sage advice but withholding much, for the younger's own good. Then, perhaps some type of meeting of sorts would occur, against protocol, culminating with some joint voyage into a distant and unknown time and worldline together. The possibilities are limitless!
Oh my Titor, this would have been amazing.

 
Oh my Titor, this would have been amazing.
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I've always wondered, why an internet forum? Although a forum isn't outdated tecnologically, we sure do have more dynamic forms of comunication. Why not a youtube streaming? Easier, a skype session? Use the forum to organize how it would work and talk to us like nature intended: Through a webcam.[DOUBLEPOST=1411401593,1411401158][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, you could arrange for a meeting with any of us. I'm pretty sure anyone here would love to talk face to face with a time traveler. Why not schedule for whoever is closer to your location to go visit you? You could tape the conversation and them post it online for us to appreciate it.

The forum is too impersonal for such an interesting event, in my opinion. I can easily think of ways to arrange a meeting such as this that wouldn't compromise the secrecy and the safety of your mission.

 
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I've always wondered, why an internet forum? Although a forum isn't outdated tecnologically, we sure do have more dynamic forms of comunication. Why not a youtube streaming? Easier, a skype session? Use the forum to organize how it would work and talk to us like nature intended: Through a webcam.[DOUBLEPOST=1411401593,1411401158][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, you could arrange for a meeting with any of us. I'm pretty sure anyone here would love to talk face to face with a time traveler. Why not schedule for whoever is closer to your location to go visit you? You could tape the conversation and them post it online for us to appreciate it.The forum is too impersonal for such an interesting event, in my opinion. I can easily think of ways to arrange a meeting such as this that wouldn't compromise the secrecy and the safety of your mission.
The skeptic's answer might be that it enables the author to more easily hide their lies. The time traveler's answer might be that it enables them to more easily hide their truths...

 
The skeptic's answer might be that it enables the author to more easily hide their lies. The time traveler's answer might be that it enables them to more easily hide their truths...
Well, assuming that the person is not lying and is in fact a time traveler there are no lies to hide. Also, the truths he or she would like to hide could be easily agreed upon beforehand.
What kind of truths would you hide if you were a traveler and had to meet me?

 
Hello all!

Thanks for your musings and idle speculations, they did indeed make me smile! I apologise for my short disappearance. Without going into too much detail, it had to do with my assignment.

I had to leave for a short while and there was little time to log onto a computer whilst I was doing what I was doing.

So much speculation about me! To address some of the philosophy being thrown around - why an Internet forum? Well, for the very reason that it IS obscure and makes it easier to remain anonymous. As I explained before, temporal travel is a dangerous undertaking. We're going backwards to points in the Earth's history (albeit on a different Worldline) where the very notion of time travel and multiverse theory are just theoretical notions and where there exist people who would steal or even kill for the secrets t0 those realities.

I don't wish to patronise any of you. You're clearly intelligent people; but in 2037, we've become accustomed to the reality of temporal and dimensional travel; we're ready for it, and you are not. Admittedly, it took a massive civil war, a broken Europe and near world-wide economic collapse for us to reach that point, but reach it we did.

The rules and regulations are there for a reason. We cannot arbitrarily hop into different worldlines, screw up your entire perception of the world by going on national television and using our devices to demonstrate the reality of time travel, and leaving your world to handle the ramifications.

This is not an authorized activity that I am doing right now. I could argue that gaining your perspective on this time period, and how you perceive time and space is useful to my research, and on some level it may be, but the truth is I am posting on here to satiate my own curiosity, nothing more. But there have to be limits to how far I will go.

I have read more about your John Titor. I am lead to the conclusion that he was probably a genuine time traveller. For various reasons but mostly because - he spoke of CERN being the first to create and stabilize miniture black holes or microsingularities, leading to the creation of gravity manipulation and involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. This is a fairly accurate description of how the foundations of time travel technology was discovered, as well as the functions of the temporal displacement unit manufactured by General Electric.

He describes an American Civil War, stemming from growing civil unrest. This occurred on my Worldline as well, and it is an eerily accurate prediction to be made from someone, if they were not from a future Worldline. However, Titor was not from my Worldline. He describes as nuclear war. - Where I come from, Nukes were not launched. Very close, as Communist Russia was very concerned when the USA fell into civil anarchy, and there was a fear they would launch a nuclear attack at the USA To prevent American Nuclear Technology from falling into radicalist or unpredictable hands, thankfully this never came to pass.

Also, maybe things were different in Titor's world. But he gave you folks a lot of information! Pictures? Schematics?! Can you imagine a soldier, today, uploading schematics of classified technology onto the internet? A very irresponsible thing to do on his part. Obviously, he didn't care, because it wasn't his Worldline anyway, so any negative impact of his actions would affect HIS future, only yours.

Still I find it incredulous that he broke protocol so carelessly and just showed you so much. Or maybe they didn't have such protocols where he comes from - which I think is even more scary a possibility.

To clarify - the rules are clear. No interaction with governments or authority figures beyond what is absolutely necessary. Absolutely no sharing of time displacement equipment, detailed schematics, or anything beyond the most basic explanation of time travel technology. Meeting ones 'younger self' is a massive No-no! Although I am alone on this assignment and there would be no way for anyone to know whether I had or hadn't, if I were to return home and it was discovered I had made contact with another version of me, not only would I never be allowed near another displacement unit again, I would lost likely face prison time.

(I shall reveal to you tho, I have encountered a family member on this trip. NOT myself. But a member of my family I felt I could trust).

So, please try to understand. Like Titor I suppose, I didn't come on here to prove anything to you. More, to have you prove something to me. To hear the thoughts of people from your time period in a frank and open manner (something I cannot do, for

Obvious reasons, out there on the streets of the city), and to perhaps gain a better understanding of how you see your future, and what you think of your world today. Not to mention - how will YOU handle the reality when CERN and the scientific community reveal that they can control singularities and bend time and space?

I mean, what does that mean for you? Religiously, spiritually, politically, ethically? Do you believe it affects free will, knowing you can travel to a different Worldline and effect changes to it? Does it effect the way you feel about yourself and your world? Knowing there are more than likely an infinite number of Earths and an infinite number of 'You's', out there? These are the things that fascinate a historian and philosopher such as myself! Perhaps not a soldier. Or even a scientist. But, I suppose, that is why I was chosen for this assignment.

Regards,

TA1

 
Hello all!This is not an authorized activity that I am doing right now. I could argue that gaining your perspective on this time period, and how you perceive time and space is useful to my research, and on some level it may be, but the truth is I am posting on here to satiate my own curiosity, nothing more. But there have to be limits to how far I will go.
TA1
Well, since you're already breaking the law, would it hurt to meet one of us? You'd still remain anonymous if you wanted, it's not that hard.
Why not try something different than a forum? Lets schedule a skype conference call to start with. You can then remain anonymous and we could hear how a time traveler sound.

I can only speak for myself but that would be just awesome.

 
TA,

First, thank you for using proper grammar and good writing skills. You are definitely an educated man. I like that. Titor had spelling issues, which wasn't impressive. I tend to think he was more of a rebel. He may have been a soldier, but I don't believe he said he worked for the U.S. military. That was an assumption. At any rate, at least you are taking the time to write something decent when conversing with us. It even inspires me to watch how I write. ;)

Not to mention - how will YOU handle the reality when CERN and the scientific community reveal that they can control singularities and bend time and space?
I will be extremely excited like a child on Christmas morning.

I mean, what does that mean for you? Religiously, spiritually, politically, ethically? Do you believe it affects free will, knowing you can travel to a different Worldline and effect changes to it?
The revealing of time travel technology will prove that there is more to the universe than meets the eye. It means that other things are also just as possible, such as the paranormal, psychic phenomena, etc. Basically, it will open up a whole new frontier to explore. It would be a frontier that doesn't exist as something physical on the earth, but a frontier none-the-less. I'd want so much to be involved or to at least witness it.
I have a few questions for you. Pardon me if it has already been discussed. I'm ADD and probably won't go back and re-read the previous posts.

1. Is the British Government involved in time travel?

2. Can you return to your original timeline with zero divergence and no extra copy of yourself? I tend to call this point (0,0) or (0,0,0).

3. Do you know the actual shape of the multiverse?

4. How did your family member react when you told him/her who you were?

5. Some people believe that gravity manipulation would take an enormous amount of power that we wouldn't be able to generate.

Is this true? If so, how do you account for this?

Thank you for your time.

Paula

 
If this is something that really interests you, I would consider it. However, unlike in my time, your internet is not secure; it is in fact well known that during this time, you were constantly monitored by government authorities in what you do, say, and visit online. I have taken steps in this forum to hide my location and not reveal too much about myself - I would have to be sure that this skype program can offer similar protection.

 
Skype is run by microsoft. And everything online is monitered in new ways here. in 2001 our net still offered anonymity ... in 2014 all anonymity is a lie. The NSA got into bed with the computer manufacturing companies. All USB ports include FM transmitters that broadcast all data on an exclusive FM frequency to the NSA.... This is all public knowledge now thanks to the snowden leaks... It was on drudge, you can google it. This is why encryption of data is useless. IF your keyboard is USB it's transmitting. If your mouse is USB it is transmitting. Everything USB is transmitting. But I digress.

Microsoft was comprimised by the US government years ago during the mircosoft trials. Part of the settlement to keep their software monopoly was an agreement to work with the US government. So since skype was bought out by microsoft I would not recomend using skype unless you have no qualms about being monitored.

 
TA1

If this is something that really interests you, I would consider it. However, unlike in my time, your internet is not secure; it is in fact well known that during this time, you were constantly monitored by government authorities in what you do, say, and visit online. I have taken steps in this forum to hide my location and not reveal too much about myself - I would have to be sure that this skype program can offer similar protection.
Thanks for considering it!
I wouldn't be the better person to conduct this talk, since English isn't my first language nor am I a specialist in the subject. I'm a mere curious. What I had in mind was, to suggest this and one of the forum members who have more experience in the subject, could host a conversation as we all heard it live. I'm not sure if this appeals to anyone other than me. Let's just wait for someone to speak up.

One more question, if I may:

Let's say hipothetically, that you could meet one of us for a talk and remain completely anonymous while the talk was recorded. Would you agree to do it?

 
Thank-you PaulaJedi. A result of the world in which I live in 2037 I suppose. You have something here - 'Text speak?'. We don't shorten our language to accommodate digital communications in the future; education is considered extremely

Important for the rebuilding of the western world and England in particular, and correct grammer and reading and writing skills are very important for record keeping and communication (we use traditional typing and pen & paper more than we do computers).

I can return to a worldline virtually identical to my own. My device is sophisticated enough to narrow down the divergence to maybe 1 or 1.5%. There might be very subtle differences in the world at large - someone in some part of the world may have a different job, or live in a different place, but the differences will likely be so small I will never notice. It is pretty much impossible to traverse time within one's own Worldline. Whenever you travel, you move dimensionally as well a chronologically. The most we can do is stay as close to our own reality as we can, keeping the divergence down to an absolute minimal.

As such, will the 'Me' that emerges into that 2037 Worldline be the 'Me' that left? No. But the 'Me' of that Worldline also cannot return to his exact Worldline, but one almost identical. In essence, I will be taking his place, and he will be taking mine.

As long as my Children and my wife are there, I'll be smiling.

Oh boy, your asking me the tough ones today Paula. Ok, keep in mind I am a Historian, not a physicist. However, we did cover Multiverse practice in training. Our Science tells is that our Universe is contained within an expanding bubble. In the beginning, The big bang occurred, the universe expanded rapidly -- so rapidly that an area of space once a nanometer square ended up more than a quarter-billion light years across in just a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second. This happened multiple times - we call it the Multiple Bang Theory. Thing of it as....ok, instead of one massive explosion. It's like one of those firecrackers? The ones that gives off multiple little explosions in rapid succession? The Big Bang was like that. *Bang bang bang bang*, each explosion creating a New, separate, expanding bubble, each containing it's own universe. Some of these bubbles had identical materials and developed identically over billions of years, others contained a great deal more or a great deal less material, and developed very differently.

So we have a giant void filled with these 'Bubble universe's' and they're all expanding. Inevitably, some bubbles bumped into each other. It's possible some produced secondary bubbles. What we do know is that they are packed close together - the bubble universes exist very dimensionally close to one another. How do we know this? The wide number of worldlines we are able to travel to, evidenced by every trip every person takes through time. Each Worldline exists in another bubble.

Our universe is one bubble in a sea of bubble universes. Does that make it easy to picture?

How did my family react? Not well. Ha ha! At first they thought I was selling something, then they thought I was flat out insane, and possibly dangerous. I had to convince them to spare a few moments to just listen, and then told them things I could not possibly have known, if I was not who I said I was. I also able to show them a small scar I have, and still have to this day, from childhood. Now that they've opened up, they say they can see clearly that it is me. They eyes, the voice, my hands. They have asked to see the displacement device. As of yet, I have not let them.

Ok, how is it powered? How does it manipulate gravity? Well, first let me reiterate - I am not an engineer, I did not build it. Can I operate it? Yes. Could I repair it if it became damaged? To a certain extent, although all I have is my Field training to rely on. It would depend on the extent of the damage.

I can tell you that what I have is a C204 Time Displacement Unit, and it was not even built in my country, it is American!

The source of power for the device, certainly the power that allows it to manipulate gravity distortions, are 2 microsingularities that were created and fused into the device itself. Now, the mass of each one is manipulated by injecting electrons onto the surface of their event-horizons. The electricity comes from 2 standard car batteries.

An incredible amount of power can be generated once the injected electrons interact with the microsingularities. It is my manipulating their mass, that the device to control and stabilise the power output, and it is this massive amount of power that allows the device to create and manipulate a gravitational field around an object/person and/or vehicle.

The British Government? Ok, there is a 'Government' in 2037, but it is quote different from what you think. There is no 'President' or 'Prime minister', no one man who speaks for the rest. Instead, we have The Council. (officially 'The Representative Council of of England and Wales'). The council is made up of 11 Members, from the 11 largest and most influential districts in England (The 11th member is welsh, and speaks on behalf of all of Wales. Because of Wales relatively small size and very little defensive and monetary influence, it has less of a say than the other, English representatives. Fair? No. But that's reality). Scotland is - technically - part of the UK Republic, but in practice they take the decisions of the council under advisement, and do what they want anyway. They are also split into districts and only occasionally send a representative to address the council in person.

So, each of the 10 districts (and the one representing wales) nominate a Speaker who will address the Council in London on their behalf. Correspondence informs each district prior to an arranged meeting of the council what is to be discussed, and then each district votes within it's community what the districts opinion of said matter will be. - The Speaker does NOT get a vote and is not allowed to attempt to sway the opinions of district citizens In any way. He is merely to convey our voices, nothing more.

Does that all make sense?

Ok, the Representative Council rules over which organisations will be permitted use of a Displacement Unit (remember, there are only so many available in England) and for how long. Each district was chosen some time ago to nominate 5 people in their community to stand as potential candidates for temporal travel, and then the organisations have a pool of 50 candidates to choose from, depending on the needs of the assignment.

There is a backlog groups (Historians, Researchers, Military, Archeologists) who wish to use a displacement device, and each is assed to a waiting list; the council determine who needs it most, and how long they need it for before A) it can pass to another organisation and B)It has to be put in for maintenance.

The Council also deals with trade with Europe, disseminating law enforcement services to districts, and nominate legal courts to oversee disputes. More importantly, it negotiates with American ships and traders for trade of different items, including the displacement technology.

Hope that all clarifies a few things for you all.

TA1

 
Microsoft was comprimised by the US government years ago during the mircosoft trials. Part of the settlement to keep their software monopoly was an agreement to work with the US government. So since skype was bought out by microsoft I would not recomend using skype unless you have no qualms about being monitored.
Hey,
I'm aware we are being monitored. But, I am under the impression that this guy is afraid of being recognized or identified. What he's posting here is being monitored as well, but we can't track him down. (well, at least I can't).

I suggested skype because even though he'll be monitored by someone, he will remain anonymous to us, which I believe is his goal.

 
Apologies for minor spelling mistakes. As I said, I don't use digital technology often anymore, and 'Autocorrect?' I believe it is called? Still something of a mystery to me.

 
'Autocorrect?' I believe it is called? Still something of a mystery to me.
If you lived during this time, wouldn't you be familiar with it?In 30 years if I were suddenly presented with something like a cassette tape or a rotary phone, I'd still know how to use them despite not having seen them in a several decades.

 
If you lived during this time, wouldn't you be familiar with it?In 30 years if I were suddenly presented with something like a cassette tape or a rotary phone, I'd still know how to use them despite not having seen them in a several decades.
Good point. Perhaps he should also do something to explain the disparity between the below statements. 23 years difference would not seem to normally be the difference between "youth" and "ripe old age". Perhaps he could state his age. Most wouldn't consider anything over age 15 or 20 to be "youth", nor anything under 65 or 70 to be "ripe old age". But, perhaps all this can be explained away with reduced life expectancies in the future, a failing memory/ unreliable narrator, misspeaking, or some combination thereof...

this is a fascinating perk of my assignment; being able to interact with a society that I remember from my youth. almost like stepping back into ones memories.

The hair is grey, the wrinkles are deep.

my ripe old age
 
As such, will the 'Me' that emerges into that 2037 Worldline be the 'Me' that left? No. But the 'Me' of that Worldline also cannot return to his exact Worldline, but one almost identical. In essence, I will be taking his place, and he will be taking mine.
So, you don't disappear from your "home" worldline and arrive back with two copies of yourself because you switch places?
This differs from Titor's theory because he met himself. Just comparing.

Our universe is one bubble in a sea of bubble universes. Does that make it easy to picture?
Yes, that is more or less how I see it, but sometimes I compare it to a rose curve or multiple rose curves for that matter.
How did my family react? Not well. Ha ha! At first they thought I was selling something, then they thought I was flat out insane, and possibly dangerous. I had to convince them to spare a few moments to just listen, and then told them things I could not possibly have known, if I was not who I said I was. I also able to show them a small scar I have, and still have to this day, from childhood. Now that they've opened up, they say they can see clearly that it is me. They eyes, the voice, my hands. They have asked to see the displacement device. As of yet, I have not let them.

Ok, how is it powered? How does it manipulate gravity? Well, first let me reiterate - I am not an engineer, I did not build it. Can I operate it? Yes. Could I repair it if it became damaged? To a certain extent, although all I have is my Field training to rely on. It would depend on the extent of the damage.

I can tell you that what I have is a C204 Time Displacement Unit, and it was not even built in my country, it is American!The source of power for the device, certainly the power that allows it to manipulate gravity distortions, are 2 microsingularities that were created and fused into the device itself. Now, the mass of each one is manipulated by injecting electrons onto the surface of their event-horizons. The electricity comes from 2 standard car batteries.
So, you are using the same technology as Titor?
Does your team have a name? His is called the 177th Temporal Recon unit.[DOUBLEPOST=1411493152][/DOUBLEPOST]Wouldn't it be amusing if this was really Titor and he came back in disguise, first, to see how we would react?

 
Your world line is exceedingly close to ours.. so what wins the Oscar for best picture? You also say that you're a historian, so what is a major event that occurs in the world within the next week?

 
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