Looks like brass, and the surface area, between the two larger disk develop an electostatic potential, bring them together, by EMF, the smaller disk become field polarized after the breakdown of the two larger disk, and again is under the field influence, the "Emitter" is configured to collect charges at the tip. that may contribute, to the motion of the plates /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
578123
Maybe electric force, but no magnetic force contributes at all. But it is very difficult to describe this using normal electrostatic rules of attraction. You would need to come up with some type of mechanism to oppositely charge the middle disc. That sort of makes this particular demonstration very difficult to understand. Why would the electric field selectively choose to impart opposite charges this way? I think you might be hypothesizing intelligent electric fields. I would like to see the math for that. But the phenomena does bear a striking resemblance to gravitation. It was my research into the behavior of the electric field that prompted me to try this particular experiment. The electric field in this instance is actually a negative potential DC induction field. I had speculated that mass behaves in a similar fashion during a nuclear bonding on the surface of the sun. Because I seen a similarity I decided to hang weights from the ceiling just to see if the electric field was causing objects with mass to attract. It worked. Of course the gravitational constant seems to be all out of whack. But then this attraction although similar to gravity is entirely produced using an electric field. But with rules of attraction that are different from normal electric field rules. With this experiment it might be possible to link gravitation with electric force. I am assembling a demonstration using all wooden discs. I should have it up shortly.
Maybe electric force, but no magnetic force contributes at all. But it is very difficult to describe this using normal electrostatic rules of attraction. You would need to come up with some type of mechanism to oppositely charge the middle disc. That sort of makes this particular demonstration very difficult to understand. Why would the electric field selectively choose to impart opposite charges this way? I think you might be hypothesizing intelligent electric fields. I would like to see the math for that. But the phenomena does bear a striking resemblance to gravitation. It was my research into the behavior of the electric field that prompted me to try this particular experiment. The electric field in this instance is actually a negative potential DC induction field. I had speculated that mass behaves in a similar fashion during a nuclear bonding on the surface of the sun. Because I seen a similarity I decided to hang weights from the ceiling just to see if the electric field was causing objects with mass to attract. It worked. Of course the gravitational constant seems to be all out of whack. But then this attraction although similar to gravity is entirely produced using an electric field. But with rules of attraction that are different from normal electric field rules. With this experiment it might be possible to link gravitation with electric force. I am assembling a demonstration using all wooden discs. I should have it up shortly.
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Re: This is now about Gravity
OK I have a video using all wooden components.
Gravity action on wood
I did try using wooden discs but the attraction between just wood is not as strong as when using the aluminum. However it does appear to work very well just using wooden blocks for the wooden discs to attract to. You can see the attraction distance is not as great as with the previous video which used wood and aluminum.
Now there is an advantage to using motion generated with an electric field which I see right away. The electric field is at right angles to the magnetic field. The magnetic field can produce motion using Newton's laws of motion. But the electric field is 90 degrees out of phase with the generated motion of magnetic fields. Is there a way to cheat? Kind of like a gyro drive using spatial fields. I'm betting there is a way to cheat.
OK I have a video using all wooden components.
Gravity action on wood
I did try using wooden discs but the attraction between just wood is not as strong as when using the aluminum. However it does appear to work very well just using wooden blocks for the wooden discs to attract to. You can see the attraction distance is not as great as with the previous video which used wood and aluminum.
Now there is an advantage to using motion generated with an electric field which I see right away. The electric field is at right angles to the magnetic field. The magnetic field can produce motion using Newton's laws of motion. But the electric field is 90 degrees out of phase with the generated motion of magnetic fields. Is there a way to cheat? Kind of like a gyro drive using spatial fields. I'm betting there is a way to cheat.
Nobody but you? In other words, your experiment has not been verified by any independent researcher, am I correct? And you've never submitted an article to a peer-reviewed journal describing either your experiment or your theories, right?
So on what grounds do you proclaim your theories as fact?
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
fourtytwo
Yes, you are correct.
Yes, correct again.
Theories aren't facts. I almost am starting to believe that I am the only one that realizes that. In fact my interpretations of observations I've made could be in error. But the observations are the source for all interpretations. And I do have some interesting experimental observations that just don't fit into the mold. But I have had lots of practice formulating and testing theories. So if you feel there is something I may have speculated about that you can see a flaw in, please bring it out in the open. I do feel I'm a bit more open minded than most people you will find. To me a theory is just a tool or stepping stone. If it helps gain more insight into aquiring more knowledge, then it is a useful theory. But I feel there is and never will be a theory that can be accepted as fact. They are just roads to travel down in a quest for more understanding.
Yes, you are correct.
Yes, correct again.
Theories aren't facts. I almost am starting to believe that I am the only one that realizes that. In fact my interpretations of observations I've made could be in error. But the observations are the source for all interpretations. And I do have some interesting experimental observations that just don't fit into the mold. But I have had lots of practice formulating and testing theories. So if you feel there is something I may have speculated about that you can see a flaw in, please bring it out in the open. I do feel I'm a bit more open minded than most people you will find. To me a theory is just a tool or stepping stone. If it helps gain more insight into aquiring more knowledge, then it is a useful theory. But I feel there is and never will be a theory that can be accepted as fact. They are just roads to travel down in a quest for more understanding.
The way to best analyze the problem, in order, to determine if there some gravitational effects, going on is to rule out all others factors, Tesla fields, by design work with the High frequency HV range, around 1MHZ, so to speak, that leads to a weak skin effect on any conductive surface, and charging the surrounding air, with a dielectric constant of air equal to 1, and the HV pulses of the tesla coil at or near DC, this should be sufficient to set up a slow building but substantial electrostatic field, and wood is a very poor dielectric, for this type of HV experiment, you would have done better, to rule out all the other cofactors, by using, mineral oil which has a much higher constant. If you better result, design a coil which resonates at of near the Lamour frequency of the sample that you are testing, replacing the inductive field, with conjugate Magnon vectors, this is a closer step to the Electro-Gravimetrics of the experiment. yo dog if you want the math I can email you!!
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
578123
I wanted to point out that the observed motion is very similar to gravity. I see objects with mass attracting toward each other. Objects that normally cannot be made to behave this way if the attracting force was magnetic in origin. I know there is a strong electric field present. The gravity like effect only occurs if I keep the secondary coil of the Tesla Coil from completing a circuit to ground. So I have no magnetic field or moving charge field. But I have speculated that the voltage field constantly decreases in intensity everytime the primary side of the Tesla Coil fires. This is a DC Tesla Coil. It only fires in one direction. I think I built this particular Tesla Coil from plans out of Popular Electronics in the early to mid 90's. I did stick to the plans with one exception. I reversed the leads on the number one transformer. So this coil doesn't behave like a regular Tesla Coil because of the fact that it is a DC coil.
There is another piece of test equipment that I made that also leads me to believe this is a way to access gravity like force. I have a solid state accelerometer microchip. It measures acceleration in any direction. I hooked it up to an old analog oscillosope. It appeared that I was getting 30 pulses per second of a 2 millisecond spike of acceleration. So I do have corroboration from the sensor that something is causing spacetime to warp in pulses. Most electronic equipment that uses voltage regulated circuitry will not function correctly within the fields influence.
So I am of the opinion that this is another way to access gravity. I've speculated that mother nature is causing gravity because of the constantly declining mass on the sun due to the nuclear reactions. But that method only produces a very minuscule force to mass ratio. Electrostatic force is many many magnitudes higher in intensity. I suppose it would be possible to create gravitational force intensities similar to what is on the surface of a black hole using the electrostatic force.
I think I pointed out in another thread that there appears to be a pattern which I noticed. The electric and magnetic force seem to be a combined linear and curvilinear force. The electric force being the linear force. But the Tesla Coil is making the electric force behave in a curvilinear fashion. With the result of a linear gravitational force accompanying it.
Because of this pattern, I am predicting that there is one more linear curvilinear combination. There should be an interaction between magnetic force and mass. Mass would be the curvilinear form of gravity. So the magnetic field would have to behave as a linear force for this to occur. Have you seen my sticky space demonstration? I think this is the third combination.
As for the math? The oscilloscope shows sharp acceleration spikes. Variable spacetime, where the dimensions of length and time are changing in rapid bursts. Sounds like a real fun job for someone. I may even have to do it. But I would have to fix all the things wrong with our mathematics first. One step forward two steps back.
I wanted to point out that the observed motion is very similar to gravity. I see objects with mass attracting toward each other. Objects that normally cannot be made to behave this way if the attracting force was magnetic in origin. I know there is a strong electric field present. The gravity like effect only occurs if I keep the secondary coil of the Tesla Coil from completing a circuit to ground. So I have no magnetic field or moving charge field. But I have speculated that the voltage field constantly decreases in intensity everytime the primary side of the Tesla Coil fires. This is a DC Tesla Coil. It only fires in one direction. I think I built this particular Tesla Coil from plans out of Popular Electronics in the early to mid 90's. I did stick to the plans with one exception. I reversed the leads on the number one transformer. So this coil doesn't behave like a regular Tesla Coil because of the fact that it is a DC coil.
There is another piece of test equipment that I made that also leads me to believe this is a way to access gravity like force. I have a solid state accelerometer microchip. It measures acceleration in any direction. I hooked it up to an old analog oscillosope. It appeared that I was getting 30 pulses per second of a 2 millisecond spike of acceleration. So I do have corroboration from the sensor that something is causing spacetime to warp in pulses. Most electronic equipment that uses voltage regulated circuitry will not function correctly within the fields influence.
So I am of the opinion that this is another way to access gravity. I've speculated that mother nature is causing gravity because of the constantly declining mass on the sun due to the nuclear reactions. But that method only produces a very minuscule force to mass ratio. Electrostatic force is many many magnitudes higher in intensity. I suppose it would be possible to create gravitational force intensities similar to what is on the surface of a black hole using the electrostatic force.
I think I pointed out in another thread that there appears to be a pattern which I noticed. The electric and magnetic force seem to be a combined linear and curvilinear force. The electric force being the linear force. But the Tesla Coil is making the electric force behave in a curvilinear fashion. With the result of a linear gravitational force accompanying it.
Because of this pattern, I am predicting that there is one more linear curvilinear combination. There should be an interaction between magnetic force and mass. Mass would be the curvilinear form of gravity. So the magnetic field would have to behave as a linear force for this to occur. Have you seen my sticky space demonstration? I think this is the third combination.
As for the math? The oscilloscope shows sharp acceleration spikes. Variable spacetime, where the dimensions of length and time are changing in rapid bursts. Sounds like a real fun job for someone. I may even have to do it. But I would have to fix all the things wrong with our mathematics first. One step forward two steps back.
Yes... But these observations haven't been confirmed by ANYONE except yourself. And it isn't because you have a unique piece of technology which no other physics lab has: Your experiments involve nothing more than standard equipment which is available in any university.
If I set up the exact experiment that you did, in my own lab, will I observe the same anomaly? If so, then you may be on to something. If not, then you have a problem...
The problem is not with your speculations, but with your methodology: Experiments performed by a single person means nothing without confirmation. This is especially true in physics, where confirming a discovery is usually very easy to do (since the laws of physics are identical everywhere).
Without confirmation, your observations don't mean much. Human beings tend to have preconceptions about the things they see, and you are no exception. As long as there is only one person doing the observations, there is simply no way to know how subjective or skewed the results are.
It is a good thing that you openly discuss your experiments on this forum - it is the first step towards reaching objective scientific conclusions. But it is far from enough. What you need for somebody else to try and repeat what you have done.
I wanted to point out that the observed motion is very similar to gravity. I see objects with mass attracting toward each other. Objects that normally cannot be made to behave this way if the attracting force was magnetic in origin. I know there is a strong electric field present. The gravity like effect only occurs if I keep the secondary coil of the Tesla Coil from completing a circuit to ground. So I have no magnetic field or moving charge field. But I have speculated that the voltage field constantly decreases in intensity everytime the primary side of the Tesla Coil fires. This is a DC Tesla Coil. It only fires in one direction. I think I built this particular Tesla Coil from plans out of Popular Electronics in the early to mid 90's. I did stick to the plans with one exception. I reversed the leads on the number one transformer. So this coil doesn't behave like a regular Tesla Coil because of the fact that it is a DC coil.
Response) I think that you might have misunderstood the term "DC" with a DC response as far as field generation is concerned, this refers to the points and which the waveform output, is both positive and negative with a interval of time, Tesla coils by design, work on a resonance between tha primary and the secondary, with the storage of the energy in some large capacitor, I can completely understand the gray areas in your experiment, but let me refer you to a papers that I have read, this should make your project fly http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/papers/is00mr.pdf, and with a more focus tesla coil, I think that you may get some very interesting results
There is another piece of test equipment that I made that also leads me to believe this is a way to access gravity like force. I have a solid state accelerometer microchip. It measures acceleration in any direction. I hooked it up to an old analog oscillosope. It appeared that I was getting 30 pulses per second of a 2 millisecond spike of acceleration. So I do have corroboration from the sensor that something is causing spacetime to warp in pulses. Most electronic equipment that uses voltage regulated circuitry will not function correctly within the fields influence.
Response) With all elements of any experiment, you would need to analyze, the function of all test elements, as far as the accelerator microchip is concerned, I would review the specifications of the chipset, to determine if the chipset, was not suseptable to ambient EMF, as with all solid state circuit , there is a specific operating point, that needs to be maintained, and the original design was not intended for experimental use, so reviewing that element may answer, the the 30ms pulses of a 2ms spike acceleration, sometime you can't go on raw data, causality needs to be investigated also.
So I am of the opinion that this is another way to access gravity. I've speculated that mother nature is causing gravity because of the constantly declining mass on the sun due to the nuclear reactions. But that method only produces a very minuscule force to mass ratio. Electrostatic force is many many magnitudes higher in intensity. I suppose it would be possible to create gravitational force intensities similar to what is on the surface of a black hole using the electrostatic force.
Response)I regards tp your speculation on the formation of gravity, you would have to look at not only the process of the hydrogen cycle, but what are the results of then, it is true that the most massive stellar object are neutron star, but behind that is billions of years of stellar development, so the speculation is unfounded, unless you have the a lateral cut away view of the sun, but the miniscule force to mass ratio, is the key, as billions of reaction per second creates one to one ratio, to the miniscule force to mass ratio, over time the value become infinite, and as the nuclear fuel is spent the minscule condition still remains, making the origins of gravity present not only at the stars end, but at it's beginning.
I think I pointed out in another thread that there appears to be a pattern which I noticed. The electric and magnetic force seem to be a combined linear and curvilinear force. The electric force being the linear force. But the Tesla Coil is making the electric force behave in a curvilinear fashion. With the result of a linear gravitational force accompanying it.
Because of this pattern, I am predicting that there is one more linear curvilinear combination. There should be an interaction between magnetic force and mass. Mass would be the curvilinear form of gravity. So the magnetic field would have to behave as a linear force for this to occur. Have you seen my sticky space demonstration? I think this is the third combination.
Response)As the paper, will show a Tesla Field, creates Nth order harmonics, and the electric fields lines are under Fourier transformation, there may me some departure from linear electric fields to non-linear electric fields, but the transition time are far too short to measure, unless there is a magnifying element in the field. and by the way this may also contribute to the electrostatic condition as well, the departures fix electrons of relative charge to there initial positions.
As for the math? The oscilloscope shows sharp acceleration spikes. Variable spacetime, where the dimensions of length and time are changing in rapid bursts. Sounds like a real fun job for someone. I may even have to do it. But I would have to fix all the things wrong with our mathematics first. One step forward two steps back.
Response) Yes, but with math, you can eliminate all the steps, and jump to your result, and that is the pont where you formulate your theories, and get to the real business of experimentation. and as for O-scopes, they vunerable, to short wavelengths :D
Response) I think that you might have misunderstood the term "DC" with a DC response as far as field generation is concerned, this refers to the points and which the waveform output, is both positive and negative with a interval of time, Tesla coils by design, work on a resonance between tha primary and the secondary, with the storage of the energy in some large capacitor, I can completely understand the gray areas in your experiment, but let me refer you to a papers that I have read, this should make your project fly http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/papers/is00mr.pdf, and with a more focus tesla coil, I think that you may get some very interesting results
There is another piece of test equipment that I made that also leads me to believe this is a way to access gravity like force. I have a solid state accelerometer microchip. It measures acceleration in any direction. I hooked it up to an old analog oscillosope. It appeared that I was getting 30 pulses per second of a 2 millisecond spike of acceleration. So I do have corroboration from the sensor that something is causing spacetime to warp in pulses. Most electronic equipment that uses voltage regulated circuitry will not function correctly within the fields influence.
Response) With all elements of any experiment, you would need to analyze, the function of all test elements, as far as the accelerator microchip is concerned, I would review the specifications of the chipset, to determine if the chipset, was not suseptable to ambient EMF, as with all solid state circuit , there is a specific operating point, that needs to be maintained, and the original design was not intended for experimental use, so reviewing that element may answer, the the 30ms pulses of a 2ms spike acceleration, sometime you can't go on raw data, causality needs to be investigated also.
So I am of the opinion that this is another way to access gravity. I've speculated that mother nature is causing gravity because of the constantly declining mass on the sun due to the nuclear reactions. But that method only produces a very minuscule force to mass ratio. Electrostatic force is many many magnitudes higher in intensity. I suppose it would be possible to create gravitational force intensities similar to what is on the surface of a black hole using the electrostatic force.
Response)I regards tp your speculation on the formation of gravity, you would have to look at not only the process of the hydrogen cycle, but what are the results of then, it is true that the most massive stellar object are neutron star, but behind that is billions of years of stellar development, so the speculation is unfounded, unless you have the a lateral cut away view of the sun, but the miniscule force to mass ratio, is the key, as billions of reaction per second creates one to one ratio, to the miniscule force to mass ratio, over time the value become infinite, and as the nuclear fuel is spent the minscule condition still remains, making the origins of gravity present not only at the stars end, but at it's beginning.
I think I pointed out in another thread that there appears to be a pattern which I noticed. The electric and magnetic force seem to be a combined linear and curvilinear force. The electric force being the linear force. But the Tesla Coil is making the electric force behave in a curvilinear fashion. With the result of a linear gravitational force accompanying it.
Because of this pattern, I am predicting that there is one more linear curvilinear combination. There should be an interaction between magnetic force and mass. Mass would be the curvilinear form of gravity. So the magnetic field would have to behave as a linear force for this to occur. Have you seen my sticky space demonstration? I think this is the third combination.
Response)As the paper, will show a Tesla Field, creates Nth order harmonics, and the electric fields lines are under Fourier transformation, there may me some departure from linear electric fields to non-linear electric fields, but the transition time are far too short to measure, unless there is a magnifying element in the field. and by the way this may also contribute to the electrostatic condition as well, the departures fix electrons of relative charge to there initial positions.
As for the math? The oscilloscope shows sharp acceleration spikes. Variable spacetime, where the dimensions of length and time are changing in rapid bursts. Sounds like a real fun job for someone. I may even have to do it. But I would have to fix all the things wrong with our mathematics first. One step forward two steps back.
Response) Yes, but with math, you can eliminate all the steps, and jump to your result, and that is the pont where you formulate your theories, and get to the real business of experimentation. and as for O-scopes, they vunerable, to short wavelengths :D
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
fourtytwo
I would be interested in providing you with the plans for the Tesla Coil I built. Since it was a published plan in Popular Electronics, I don't think I could legally post them online. Gernsback publications owns the copyrights to the info. But I don't know if this is just some quirky behavior of the particular Tesla Coil that I built. If it is, then I will eventually get to the cause. It just seems kind of odd that no one else has come across this phenomena before.
Hopefully word will eventually trickle out to those that are as curious as I. But so far no one seems to be interested enough to contact me about duplicating any experiment I have performed. In fact it is very rare for me to come across anyone else with a similar visualization ability. I suppose I'll have to develop the technology on my own. But I do like challenging problems, so I will keep pursuing this.
I would be interested in providing you with the plans for the Tesla Coil I built. Since it was a published plan in Popular Electronics, I don't think I could legally post them online. Gernsback publications owns the copyrights to the info. But I don't know if this is just some quirky behavior of the particular Tesla Coil that I built. If it is, then I will eventually get to the cause. It just seems kind of odd that no one else has come across this phenomena before.
Hopefully word will eventually trickle out to those that are as curious as I. But so far no one seems to be interested enough to contact me about duplicating any experiment I have performed. In fact it is very rare for me to come across anyone else with a similar visualization ability. I suppose I'll have to develop the technology on my own. But I do like challenging problems, so I will keep pursuing this.
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
578123
What I was referring to as far as a DC coil is that all all of the voltage generation capacity in the coil is done on just one side of the ground state. A classical Tesla Coil uses both sides of the ground state. So I do think that this could be why the effect hasn't been observed before. Not many coils are designed this way. I did read through the article you posted and it was interesting. The part that caught my attention was the configuration of the coils with the capacitors. I've seen a similar configuration with diodes in place of the coils. The diode capacitor version is also a form of high voltage generation.
I did encase the chip circuitry board in epoxy resin. So I don't feel any free ions in the air could be affecting the electronics. Of course I have two observations in agreement with one another. The chip was designed to measure acceleration. I have checked to see if I could induce any stray or anomalous reading using a very high strength moving magnetic field. The chip remains unaffected by any magnetic influence. But then I only used the chip to corroborate what I was seeing with my own eyes. Non-magnetic materials seem to have an attraction like gravity.
I would have to disagree with your asertion that my speculation on the formation of gravity is unfounded. That speculation is what lead me to perform this experiment. Although not proven I saw a similarity between a drop in mass of the hydrogen to helium reaction, and the drop in voltage of a discharging capacitor. It's a one way reaction. If gravity in the universe is being caused by mass disappearing, then one day in the far far future when all the nuclear fuel is spent, gravity will cease. The gravitational force as I see it is only present during a nuclear bonding. So the only cumulative affect would be the number of bondings taking place over a given time. But it is just a theory like any other theory. Not fact. Just a possible tool to use in an attempt at understanding. Only this time the theory tool has led to a very interesting outcome.
I'm treating the decellerating voltage potential as a curvilinear voltage field. That would be the voltage potential across the discharge capacitor during the actual discharge on the primary air coil.
Now this is interesting. All math comes from mental visualizations. The visualizations are necessary to create the math. The math is just a representation of those mental visualizations. Theory doesn't come from math, it comes from the visualizations. If nobody has visualized yet how gravity is produced, then there is no math yet to describe it. So how could I get to the result? And you didn't know that. But now it is apparent in your analysis that you are not using visualizations at all. That takes lots of practice.
I will agree that the instruments used for testing a gravity like phenomena can be affected in adverse ways. Since spacetime is the foundation that those instruments sit within. If length is changing, then time is changing as well. There is an aspect of the accelerometer readings that suggests I have altered spacetime. I observed that no matter which way in the horizontal direction I orient the accelerometer, it always shows positive acceleration. Non-directional acceleration. But that also corroborates the physical observations too. Two objects will attract each other in any direction I orient them.
What I was referring to as far as a DC coil is that all all of the voltage generation capacity in the coil is done on just one side of the ground state. A classical Tesla Coil uses both sides of the ground state. So I do think that this could be why the effect hasn't been observed before. Not many coils are designed this way. I did read through the article you posted and it was interesting. The part that caught my attention was the configuration of the coils with the capacitors. I've seen a similar configuration with diodes in place of the coils. The diode capacitor version is also a form of high voltage generation.
I did encase the chip circuitry board in epoxy resin. So I don't feel any free ions in the air could be affecting the electronics. Of course I have two observations in agreement with one another. The chip was designed to measure acceleration. I have checked to see if I could induce any stray or anomalous reading using a very high strength moving magnetic field. The chip remains unaffected by any magnetic influence. But then I only used the chip to corroborate what I was seeing with my own eyes. Non-magnetic materials seem to have an attraction like gravity.
I would have to disagree with your asertion that my speculation on the formation of gravity is unfounded. That speculation is what lead me to perform this experiment. Although not proven I saw a similarity between a drop in mass of the hydrogen to helium reaction, and the drop in voltage of a discharging capacitor. It's a one way reaction. If gravity in the universe is being caused by mass disappearing, then one day in the far far future when all the nuclear fuel is spent, gravity will cease. The gravitational force as I see it is only present during a nuclear bonding. So the only cumulative affect would be the number of bondings taking place over a given time. But it is just a theory like any other theory. Not fact. Just a possible tool to use in an attempt at understanding. Only this time the theory tool has led to a very interesting outcome.
I'm treating the decellerating voltage potential as a curvilinear voltage field. That would be the voltage potential across the discharge capacitor during the actual discharge on the primary air coil.
Now this is interesting. All math comes from mental visualizations. The visualizations are necessary to create the math. The math is just a representation of those mental visualizations. Theory doesn't come from math, it comes from the visualizations. If nobody has visualized yet how gravity is produced, then there is no math yet to describe it. So how could I get to the result? And you didn't know that. But now it is apparent in your analysis that you are not using visualizations at all. That takes lots of practice.
I will agree that the instruments used for testing a gravity like phenomena can be affected in adverse ways. Since spacetime is the foundation that those instruments sit within. If length is changing, then time is changing as well. There is an aspect of the accelerometer readings that suggests I have altered spacetime. I observed that no matter which way in the horizontal direction I orient the accelerometer, it always shows positive acceleration. Non-directional acceleration. But that also corroborates the physical observations too. Two objects will attract each other in any direction I orient them.
Good_Scientist
Temporal Navigator
This is about Gravity
I would be interested in any proof mathematics you can show me or any other results, that I can do. But I am now into my chemistry years, but still have friends in physics who may or may not be interested and who could easily replicate your set up.
Good Scientist
I would be interested in any proof mathematics you can show me or any other results, that I can do. But I am now into my chemistry years, but still have friends in physics who may or may not be interested and who could easily replicate your set up.
Good Scientist
I won't take up the entire post, pointing out the some of the mistakes that you may be making with your experiment, like epoxy resin, shields from High voltages, but not RF electromagnetic interference, or the fact that the DC operations, has a transform response of a DC transmission, or even, the fact the your assertion of changes in spacetime, and it's relationship to gravity with your device, is no way related to the velocity of charged particles, collisional momentum distibution to inelastic mass surface, but I will say that science, is as much as learning as it is understanding, test and re-testing your theory, it is very easy to see thing in the same color, but very difficult putting it into the rainbow, which encompasses scientific enlightenment. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/cry.gif
Hopefully word will eventually trickle out to those that are as curious as I. But so far no one seems to be interested enough to contact me about duplicating any experiment I have performed.
No one?
For starters, I am VERY interested. I want to try and duplicate your experiment.
And I want to do it right.
Can you tell me which volume and page of Popular Electronics the plan was published in? I can find the schematics themselves in my local library.
No one?
For starters, I am VERY interested. I want to try and duplicate your experiment.
And I want to do it right.
Can you tell me which volume and page of Popular Electronics the plan was published in? I can find the schematics themselves in my local library.
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
fourtytwo
Yes.I believe it was in 1992 that Popular Electronics published two additional high voltage mini books which were included with the magazine publication over a two month period. I still have both mini books, but no longer have the magazines they were included with. So I don't have the exact months in question to give you.
Also I did a search on the net to see if maybe I could find it that way. I did come up with an exact match. My mini books are a compilation of high voltage projects that had been published in years prior. The article with the tesla coil project I built, originally appeared in "Hands On Electronics" This info is off the net, but it appears to be an exact match to my article:
Also another possibility:
And one last one. I could photcopy my article and email it to you. But you would have to PM me with your email address.
Yes.I believe it was in 1992 that Popular Electronics published two additional high voltage mini books which were included with the magazine publication over a two month period. I still have both mini books, but no longer have the magazines they were included with. So I don't have the exact months in question to give you.
Also I did a search on the net to see if maybe I could find it that way. I did come up with an exact match. My mini books are a compilation of high voltage projects that had been published in years prior. The article with the tesla coil project I built, originally appeared in "Hands On Electronics" This info is off the net, but it appears to be an exact match to my article:
Also another possibility:
And one last one. I could photcopy my article and email it to you. But you would have to PM me with your email address.
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
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I just want you to know that I do appreciate your analytical approach to my experimental setup.
There is something I want to point out that I don't think you are aware of. Tesla Coils do not radiate EM radiation. That just happens to be one little fact that is hard to get by. So shielding my sensor against any possible EM interference is kind of pointless. I have checked the secondary for a presence of a magnetic field, and there doesn't appear to be any detectable magnetic field present. It would take the presence of both a magnetic field and electric field in order to form an EM field emmission. Now I was getting electrical interference before I insulated the sensor in epoxy resin. After insulating the sensor, I no longer got off the scale voltage readings. The sensor does not register any voltage induction in the presence of a 1 Tesla magnetic field. So it does appear that I have covered those bases as to possible interference sources. But that still leaves the electric field itself. I have speculated that the electric field is undergoing a change in potential value as a result of the primary induction coil behavior. It may well be that there is no way to shield against an electric field acting in this manner. But I will agree that an electric field is present and behaving in a manner that is not fully understood.
Lets look at this electric field for a bit. Normally an electric field will change in intensity with the presence of moving charges either increasing in volume or decreasing in volume. But the secondary side of my Tesla Coil is being run as an open circuit. So no moving charges are present in the customary way we like to visualize them. But the secondary is undergoing that kind of voltage induction from the primary side. So you could say the voltage field is changing in intensity in the secondary with no corresponding moving charges.
There is something that I would like to point out with Einstein's theory on general relativity that I think is of importance. His "Principle of Equivalence" proposal needs to go out the window. He set gravity and acceleration as being equal. That is what he based the Equivalence proposal on. But the proposal has to rest on there only being two reference frames to be valid. Lets visulize this to clarify: A rocketship accelerates through space. On the surface of the earth the space accelerates through us instead. Einstein equated the two types of accelerations as being equivalent. But what if you add a third reference frame? The outside observer would have an independant view to determine which type of acceleration was present. From that point of view it is clearly obvious that the two types of acceleration are not equal. Both types give the sensation of weight, but it is apparent that weight from gravity only occurs if no motion is present relative to the third observational reference frame.
This seems to be identical to what seems to be happening with the electrons in my Tesla coil. We have a third reference frame present with the Tesla Coil that up untill now has been ignored.
So whats with Einstein? Why didn't he see this? I can only speculate. But it seems to me that he did see this, and may have been involved in developing a diversionary tactic to keep the rest of us at bay from learning the truth about the reality we exist within. Maybe there was too much fear involved to let the world know the truth. But I must say he was very successful in keeping us at bay. For more than 50 years this area of science has stood still. Yet every other area has accelerated forward.
I just want you to know that although I do have a way to unify all fields in a unified field concept, it is in no way to be considered the ultimate answer. I personally like the three planar spacetime model with three independant types of space, each linked together at right angle intersections. But a theory is just a tool to help understand. There may be other approaches to use to increase understanding on different levels.
I just want you to know that I do appreciate your analytical approach to my experimental setup.
There is something I want to point out that I don't think you are aware of. Tesla Coils do not radiate EM radiation. That just happens to be one little fact that is hard to get by. So shielding my sensor against any possible EM interference is kind of pointless. I have checked the secondary for a presence of a magnetic field, and there doesn't appear to be any detectable magnetic field present. It would take the presence of both a magnetic field and electric field in order to form an EM field emmission. Now I was getting electrical interference before I insulated the sensor in epoxy resin. After insulating the sensor, I no longer got off the scale voltage readings. The sensor does not register any voltage induction in the presence of a 1 Tesla magnetic field. So it does appear that I have covered those bases as to possible interference sources. But that still leaves the electric field itself. I have speculated that the electric field is undergoing a change in potential value as a result of the primary induction coil behavior. It may well be that there is no way to shield against an electric field acting in this manner. But I will agree that an electric field is present and behaving in a manner that is not fully understood.
Lets look at this electric field for a bit. Normally an electric field will change in intensity with the presence of moving charges either increasing in volume or decreasing in volume. But the secondary side of my Tesla Coil is being run as an open circuit. So no moving charges are present in the customary way we like to visualize them. But the secondary is undergoing that kind of voltage induction from the primary side. So you could say the voltage field is changing in intensity in the secondary with no corresponding moving charges.
There is something that I would like to point out with Einstein's theory on general relativity that I think is of importance. His "Principle of Equivalence" proposal needs to go out the window. He set gravity and acceleration as being equal. That is what he based the Equivalence proposal on. But the proposal has to rest on there only being two reference frames to be valid. Lets visulize this to clarify: A rocketship accelerates through space. On the surface of the earth the space accelerates through us instead. Einstein equated the two types of accelerations as being equivalent. But what if you add a third reference frame? The outside observer would have an independant view to determine which type of acceleration was present. From that point of view it is clearly obvious that the two types of acceleration are not equal. Both types give the sensation of weight, but it is apparent that weight from gravity only occurs if no motion is present relative to the third observational reference frame.
This seems to be identical to what seems to be happening with the electrons in my Tesla coil. We have a third reference frame present with the Tesla Coil that up untill now has been ignored.
So whats with Einstein? Why didn't he see this? I can only speculate. But it seems to me that he did see this, and may have been involved in developing a diversionary tactic to keep the rest of us at bay from learning the truth about the reality we exist within. Maybe there was too much fear involved to let the world know the truth. But I must say he was very successful in keeping us at bay. For more than 50 years this area of science has stood still. Yet every other area has accelerated forward.
I just want you to know that although I do have a way to unify all fields in a unified field concept, it is in no way to be considered the ultimate answer. I personally like the three planar spacetime model with three independant types of space, each linked together at right angle intersections. But a theory is just a tool to help understand. There may be other approaches to use to increase understanding on different levels.
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I was searching around online and actually found the original article that I used to build my Tesla Coil. The article is exactly the same as the one in my minibook.
Solid State Tesla Coil Plans
Just save it to your hard drive, or print it out for a hard copy.
I was searching around online and actually found the original article that I used to build my Tesla Coil. The article is exactly the same as the one in my minibook.
Solid State Tesla Coil Plans
Just save it to your hard drive, or print it out for a hard copy.