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Guest
anyone who claims to be from beyond the year 2013 is a FAKE! 2013 sees all hell break loose when the world WILL end. so, busted!
G
Guest
As we walk on earth an accelerating force of ~9.8 m/s^2 is acting upon us, keeping us grounded. This is because we are forced to be following a geodesic (a straight line). As our planet is curved, our geodesic path is a curve aswell. The bigger the spherical planet (as are all) the stronger the force must be to keep its atmosphere at a geodesic pace. It's the curved path in space time that creates the acceleration.
Good_Scientist
Temporal Navigator
No we are not accelerating towards the Earth if we stand on it. We are experincing no resultant force because the ground pushes back on our feet with a force of the same magnitude 9.8 x Nkg-1 but opposite vector.
It's the curved path in space time that creates the acceleration.
There is just wrong. 'Nuff said.
Good Scientist
It's the curved path in space time that creates the acceleration.
There is just wrong. 'Nuff said.
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Good_Scientist
Temporal Navigator
Einstein,
Does Gravity act at the speed of light or instantaneously?
Good Scientist
Does Gravity act at the speed of light or instantaneously?
Good Scientist
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Good_Scientist
In my opinion I would have to say that if you had a gravity field generator aboard a spaceship, and had enough fuel, you could pass the speed of light. But you could decern this yourself by observation. On the earth all of us have been under the effects of a one gee force all our lives with no accumulated time dilation effects. So in answer to the first part of your question I would have to say that gravity does indeed act at the speed of light.
But the second part of your question isn't that easy to answer. Some of my observations suggest that gravity could be a reverse time flowing phenomena. Mathematically that would suggest that there could be regions in space where gravity transmission could actually take negative time to propagate. I do believe that orbital computations of the planets in our solar system only work out correctly if the propagation speed is instantaneous.
In my opinion I would have to say that if you had a gravity field generator aboard a spaceship, and had enough fuel, you could pass the speed of light. But you could decern this yourself by observation. On the earth all of us have been under the effects of a one gee force all our lives with no accumulated time dilation effects. So in answer to the first part of your question I would have to say that gravity does indeed act at the speed of light.
But the second part of your question isn't that easy to answer. Some of my observations suggest that gravity could be a reverse time flowing phenomena. Mathematically that would suggest that there could be regions in space where gravity transmission could actually take negative time to propagate. I do believe that orbital computations of the planets in our solar system only work out correctly if the propagation speed is instantaneous.
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Guest
oh my.........look! we are tryin to tackle the theory of whether or not u can go forwards or backwards in time with MODERN DAY EQUIPMENT! nobody can generate gravity (yet), so how could you theoretically get something to go back in time? oh, an by the way i reckon extremely high speeds of rotation shud be enuff to send someone forwards. refer to the guy on the space station who is now apparently 1 100th of a second ahead of us. not much, but still time travel!
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
fluxcapacitor
Nobody but me. Check out this little movie clip of my latest gravity experiment.
Gravity Action
Since gravity fields distort and slow down time, I reason that a pulsed gravity field generator with field intensities that rapidly increase should create a time force in the negative direction. I don't have all the particulars worked out yet. For one I would need find a way to shield my body from the effects a reverse time force might have on me. Otherwise all I might have is just a way to rejuvinate or reverse age my body. But thats ok, it will just give me more time to figure it all out.
Nobody but me. Check out this little movie clip of my latest gravity experiment.
Gravity Action
Since gravity fields distort and slow down time, I reason that a pulsed gravity field generator with field intensities that rapidly increase should create a time force in the negative direction. I don't have all the particulars worked out yet. For one I would need find a way to shield my body from the effects a reverse time force might have on me. Otherwise all I might have is just a way to rejuvinate or reverse age my body. But thats ok, it will just give me more time to figure it all out.
RenUnconscious
Quantum Scribe
Maybe im missin' something here but it looks like magnetic attraction to me. even static electricity would do that, what makes u think this is a gravity field u generated? I don't buy it. Why don't you perform the same experiment with wood and see how your results turn out.
Good_Scientist
Temporal Navigator
Laughable! Cool sound effect on the plus side.
Well at least you got the question right!
Back to another favourite quote.
oh, an by the way i reckon extremely high speeds of rotation shud be enuff to send someone forwards. refer to the guy on the space station who is now apparently 1 100th of a second ahead of us. not much, but still time travel!
By the way, how many things do you know that spin incredibly fast yet dont phase out of this present time and into in to the future. I know quite a few.
Good Scientist
Well at least you got the question right!
Back to another favourite quote.
oh, an by the way i reckon extremely high speeds of rotation shud be enuff to send someone forwards. refer to the guy on the space station who is now apparently 1 100th of a second ahead of us. not much, but still time travel!
By the way, how many things do you know that spin incredibly fast yet dont phase out of this present time and into in to the future. I know quite a few.
Good Scientist
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Hi Ren
The two discs on the left are aluminum and the disc on the right is wood. If you believe you can get magnets to work on those materials, then be my guest and try. As for the static electricity theory? Think it through, it would take oppositely charged objects to produce this effect. And metals aren't good for static electricity experiments because they have a tendency to discharge. But then I don't suppose anyone with a closed mind would ever be interested anyawy.
The two discs on the left are aluminum and the disc on the right is wood. If you believe you can get magnets to work on those materials, then be my guest and try. As for the static electricity theory? Think it through, it would take oppositely charged objects to produce this effect. And metals aren't good for static electricity experiments because they have a tendency to discharge. But then I don't suppose anyone with a closed mind would ever be interested anyawy.
In reckoning you have to think about the nature of time itself, in our experience, we are born, grow old, then die, don't you think that in the relationship of time to itself this is also, true, or are he concepts, of the past the present and the future, just so much fairy dust, in essence, there is a very pervasive WEC going on, so as for as going back and forth thru time, we think as hot and cold in relation to temporal heating, as the intrinsic Now is ever preserved.
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Good Scientist
I can assure you that the video is real. It's an area of experimentation that I have been working with over that past several months. The sound you here is the high voltage spark from a Tesla Coil. I think this is a way to get mass to move using an electric field. The electric field is declining in intensity in shorts bursts. There is very little magnetic field at all. The secondary is being run as an open circuit condition. The effect is not present if the secondary is allowed a path to ground.
I would have to say that sub atomic particles would fall into this category. At least the stable ones.
I can assure you that the video is real. It's an area of experimentation that I have been working with over that past several months. The sound you here is the high voltage spark from a Tesla Coil. I think this is a way to get mass to move using an electric field. The electric field is declining in intensity in shorts bursts. There is very little magnetic field at all. The secondary is being run as an open circuit condition. The effect is not present if the secondary is allowed a path to ground.
I would have to say that sub atomic particles would fall into this category. At least the stable ones.
Good_Scientist
Temporal Navigator
That middle disk is not wood. No way; it reflects the image of the wooden block so well to the camera it looks like glass. But then I checked your other video from another angle, definitely metallic. So try it with real wood and maybe you will have a more credible proof. Though, it still could be done with metal inside. To better prove you have generated a gravity field and not something else, whether magnetic, electric or something else, you will need pieces of real wood.
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Good Scientist
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Good Scientist
The disc on the right is made of wood. But I have another video I made from a different angle. You can definitely see the disk on the end is not aluminum.
Gravity from different angle
However that was an earlier experiment and the gravity force was not as strong with that one. I discovered that the surface area of the plate connected to the output of the Tesla Coil does make a difference in the gravity output of the setup. However your idea to use all wood discs is possible for me to do. I'll see if I can set it up today and post the results.
I was thinking about that rotational speed idea this morning and a rule seemed to pop into my mind which does fit the observed behavior in a gravity field. The rule is: As time slows down rotational speed goes up. With gravity it would be orbital velocity. A strong gravity field would have a much slower rate of time. And it would also take more orbital velocity in a stronger gravity field for an object to orbit.
The disc on the right is made of wood. But I have another video I made from a different angle. You can definitely see the disk on the end is not aluminum.
Gravity from different angle
However that was an earlier experiment and the gravity force was not as strong with that one. I discovered that the surface area of the plate connected to the output of the Tesla Coil does make a difference in the gravity output of the setup. However your idea to use all wood discs is possible for me to do. I'll see if I can set it up today and post the results.
I was thinking about that rotational speed idea this morning and a rule seemed to pop into my mind which does fit the observed behavior in a gravity field. The rule is: As time slows down rotational speed goes up. With gravity it would be orbital velocity. A strong gravity field would have a much slower rate of time. And it would also take more orbital velocity in a stronger gravity field for an object to orbit.
Good_Scientist
Temporal Navigator
Re: This is now about Gravity
Still not convinced that any of the disks are wood.
Anyway, enough of that argument. If what the video shows is the product of a synthetic gravity (i.e not generated by a massive object) field you yourself have produced then this is big stuff. No one has generated gravity before that has gone on record. If you are playing with tesla coils to produce this effect, how come no-one has managed this before, bearing in mind tesla coils have been around for a good 60 odd years (something like that). Are you doing something trully revolutionary? I don't do research in gravitational fields and forces, but I will read up on it and chat to a few names.
The rotational idea is correct and comes from relativity, doesn't it all. A massive Gravitational field will bend space time, in essesnce making time slower. Think of a stationary black hole and a small planet nearby, the planet will if an orbit beforehand be attracted towards the black hole in an elliptical manner. If it just goes straight for the it is harder to explain. As it approaches with ever greater speed (1/r2) it will orbit the black hole great speed then it will appear to leave the orbit and drift outwards again. It will however be attracted back towards the black hole and the same will happen, on and on forever ( if the Black hole does not spin which is nearly never). It precesses away from the black hole due to the black holes effect on space time, time is slower near the event horizon, relativistically, this causes the planets angular momentum to drop and for it to lose speed and its orbit become greater in radius. The once it is far enough away as not to be affected temporaly it is attracted again....
Very general, because I have not the time but it show what your saying.
But seriously if you have generated gravity using other means than a super dense mass / matter, then there is a nobel prize.
Good Sceintist
Still not convinced that any of the disks are wood.
Anyway, enough of that argument. If what the video shows is the product of a synthetic gravity (i.e not generated by a massive object) field you yourself have produced then this is big stuff. No one has generated gravity before that has gone on record. If you are playing with tesla coils to produce this effect, how come no-one has managed this before, bearing in mind tesla coils have been around for a good 60 odd years (something like that). Are you doing something trully revolutionary? I don't do research in gravitational fields and forces, but I will read up on it and chat to a few names.
The rotational idea is correct and comes from relativity, doesn't it all. A massive Gravitational field will bend space time, in essesnce making time slower. Think of a stationary black hole and a small planet nearby, the planet will if an orbit beforehand be attracted towards the black hole in an elliptical manner. If it just goes straight for the it is harder to explain. As it approaches with ever greater speed (1/r2) it will orbit the black hole great speed then it will appear to leave the orbit and drift outwards again. It will however be attracted back towards the black hole and the same will happen, on and on forever ( if the Black hole does not spin which is nearly never). It precesses away from the black hole due to the black holes effect on space time, time is slower near the event horizon, relativistically, this causes the planets angular momentum to drop and for it to lose speed and its orbit become greater in radius. The once it is far enough away as not to be affected temporaly it is attracted again....
Very general, because I have not the time but it show what your saying.
But seriously if you have generated gravity using other means than a super dense mass / matter, then there is a nobel prize.
Good Sceintist