Evil and Good

I can't belive you people, I make a nice little thread that questions ethics and you bring god into this??

I mean COME ON!

sure god exists he just doesn't do anything. He doesn't help anyone, he doesn't do anything for his followers.

I could go around the world and kill everyone who even mentioned they had faith in god, and no supreme being would come down and smite me. Not saying I'm going to, just hypothecial.

Good and Evil are the same thing just view from the giver and the reciver, if someone hits me because he thought I slaped his sister, he would think he was doing good. If i didn't slap his sister I would view that as Bad. Get?

The End Justifies The Means
 
JScannell...it doesn't appear that you have met anyone who truly KNOWS Christ. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Keven...in all fairness...can you say that God has not done anything for me? Can you tell ME what God is and has done for ME? You are making a general statement that because God hasn't done anything for YOU, he doesn't do ANYTHING for ANYONE.

Rainman....did you happen to catch the next day's article that was published yesterday about the Aliens, Demons topic? If not, I can post a link.
 
Rainman....did you happen to catch the next day's article that was published yesterday about the Aliens, Demons topic? If not, I can post a link.

No, I didn't. Please post the link, as I am always interested in understanding more about what people think as to how they rationalize UFOs.

I also agree with your comments to Keven about God. No matter how much religions want to make God a public issue, one's beliefs (or non-beliefs) in God are THE most personal issue in anyone's life, because they relate self to something bigger than humanity, in an attempt to explain who we are and why we are here. That's even more personal than one's sex life! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
hmmmmmm...me too.

Here's a C&P:

January 15, 2004
No. 040115
A Dangerous Correlation
E.T., Occultism, and the Truth

Some twenty-five years ago, a Stanford astronomy professor surveyed members of the American Astronomical Society. The subject: UFOs. About 1,300 astronomers responded -- and what they said sheds light on the kind of people who believe they encounter UFOs.

Although nearly all so-called UFOs can be explained by natural causes, a small percentage can't be. Hugh Ross, himself a Christian, an astronomer, and the author of a book titled Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men, says researchers call these unexplainable phenomena "residual UFOs." In the Stanford study, sixty-two astronomers, or 5 percent, said they'd seen residual UFOs. But here's the interesting part: Astronomers with just a few observation hours per year witnessed UFOs, while those logging more than a thousand hours per year saw nothing.

This reverse correlation "demonstrates that something besides observing time determines who sees" UFOs and who does not, Ross writes. The most important factor, according to Ross, appears to be the activities these astronomers pursue. Those who are deeply involved in cultic, occultic, or certain New Age pursuits often see UFOs, whereas astronomers who avoid those things do not.

Twenty years of study have led Ross to believe that the principle is universal. Whenever he says this on television or on the radio, he hears from people who claim they're the exception. But upon deeper investigation, Ross writes, it turns out the person actually is mixed up in some way with occultic or New Age activities.

To support his thesis, Ross points to documented cases in which several people are together at an event, but only some of them witness the UFO. Some will see the UFO and react both physically and psychologically, Ross writes, while others "see nothing and experience nothing."

According to Ross, these UFO encounters "strike witnesses with intense fear, distress, and anxiety." Others experience nightmares, visions, hallucinations, and personality changes. Significantly, Ross writes, "Many who have had close contact with a residual UFO adopt new belief systems." He points to the many UFO-related cults and religions -- cults whose teaching deny the divinity of Christ and the need for a Savior.

For these reasons and many others, Ross is convinced that the so-called UFOs are actually evidence of demonic activity. He points to Scriptures that warn that demons can attack only those who, through their pursuits and friendships, invite them. This, of course, is exactly what the victims of UFO phenomena do.

Skeptics often claim that UFO events are simply hoaxes. Ross agrees. But humans may not be the perpetrators. The nature of these UFOs, and the impact they have on people, are far beyond human capability. Witnesses instead appear to be the victims "of a hoax perpetrated by superhuman authors," according to Ross.

You might want to read Ross's fascinating book Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men. It gives a rational look at UFOs. And then, the next time your kids watch a film about "friendly" aliens, or read about the latest UFO sighting, share Ross's concerns with them. If Ross is right, there's nothing friendly about these so-called aliens.
 
Thanks for that C&P!

This still has the issue of "what is the technical definition of a demon?" I am not too sure that trading one unknown (aliens) for another (demons) does anything more than cloud the issue...or perhaps try to reframe it in a religous context. And the latter may be the purpose when one considers Ross' potential bias, towhit I call attention to the following:

"Hugh Ross, himself a Christian" (first indication of possible bias)

"The most important factor, according to Ross, appears to be the activities these astronomers pursue. Those who are deeply involved in cultic, occultic, or certain New Age pursuits often see UFOs, whereas astronomers who avoid those things do not." (Next piece of evidence... as a guy who grew up in a strict Catholic family, I am aware of the tendencies of strong Christian believers to demonize, pun intended, those who delve into mystical traditions. Personally, I think this extends back to the Catholic Church's campaign to obliterate the Gnostics, which is well documented in history.)

"He points to the many UFO-related cults and religions -- cults whose teaching deny the divinity of Christ and the need for a Savior." (WOW! This almost equates cults and 'other' religions. Ergo, the Jewish faith denies the divinity of Christ, and thus it is a cult??? To me, this shows more evidence of his potential bias.)

"Ross is convinced that the so-called UFOs are actually evidence of demonic activity. He points to Scriptures that warn that demons can attack only those who, through their pursuits and friendships, invite them. " (I wonder precisely which scriptures? I'd bet more New Testament than Old.)

FWIW, my own research and contemplation has lead me to the belief that Genesis is certainly more 'special' than all other books in the Bible. Jewish tradition reveres the first 5 books, and there may be scientific information in all of them (e.g. Bible Codes); however, I think Genesis stands out as having the greatest potential in this area. Hence, my comment in another thread regarding the potential significance of Genesis 1:27.

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
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