Aude sapere - Dare to know

"I can assure you that everything we do; past, present and future has direct consequences on who we are, what we represent and what legacy we leave behind us."

i see it like this: i can have 50+ years of fun, or i can have eternal fun. i can live my life, and thank the lord for it, and i can have the lord tell me "thank you for having faith in me."

or, i can live my life, hate the lord for it, and i can have the lord tell me "your greed is too much."

being an honorable person is an extremely hard thing to in these times, but i assure you, its possible /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
ECCE,

your welcome.

"Science, as will eventually be discovered in the very near future is in fact the catalyst for turning the masses of the world’s population back towards religion or spiritual necessity."

In the future do you think pure science and spiritual truths merge?

I have thought this to be a truth because I have seen it in many dreams.
I think it is the very reason that scientists cannot presently go beyond Quantum physics.
They cannot take the next step because they do not believe God actually created this world.
 
"I'd love to hear how Titorian45 plans to protect the laws of causality, without violating them himself. The very act of "time travel moderating" is a violation of causality, is it not?"

Its probably alot like cops. They bust a person for speeding but are speeding themselves to catch them. LOL /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif






My personal opinion is that Titorian45 is a BSer. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
And......Looks like I am a step ahead of you here also. LOLOLOLOL:)
You can edit your below post all you want but I am still up here!

:D :D :D
 
>Its probably alot like cops. They bust a person for speeding but are speeding themselves to catch them.<

That is one way of looking at it, "Ms. Moore", and regardless, there are some people who will always be a step ahead of you.
 
>Its probably alot like cops. They bust a person for speeding but are speeding themselves to catch them.<

"That is one way of looking at it, "Ms. Moore",
yet there are some people who will always be a step ahead of me."

Yep. I agree!! and just as smart...or smarter!
/ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif LOL
 
PamelaM217 Wrote: “In the future do you think pure science and spiritual truths merge? I have thought this to be a truth because I have seen it in many dreams. I think it is the very reason that scientists cannot presently go beyond Quantum physics. They cannot take the next step because they do not believe God actually created this world”

A very good observation, I would be interested to know more about these dreams, you are also correct to a certain degree.

Science has come to a crossroads; in their belief that everything can in some form or another be explained by using mathematical formula’s they have lost sight of the road. The cracks are already there and even though theoretic equations and seemingly correct formulas add up in some cases, they will continue to divide themselves.

They need to start thinking out of the box; they are looking to find the answers to the end of the puzzle hoping it will give them the answer to the beginning, to build a tower with part of the foundation missing

Fortunately for them they will get an initially surprising and somewhat confusing helping hand, it will lead some of them to re-think the whole concept and finally take a leap of face.

That discovery will be made by an archaeologist.
 
i think it will end up being everything is right, and nothing is wrong. at the same time everything is wrong and nothing is right. i think its gods joke in a way. no matter how hard we try to understand everything, god will not let us. that is not what life is for, in my opinion. i believe that is what heaven is for, understanding. and life is for deciding. i think the big guy chuckles at us everytime we think we've figured everything out, then he says: "ok, time for you to move to the next level. hope you can handle it, as its infinitely harder." and so on

but i will say this: im not sure, and i will continue to keep an open mind.
 
I see it like this: i can have 50+ years of fun, or i can have eternal fun.
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Why can't we have both?

I happen to think that treating life as a spiritual journey is much more fun than being purely hedonistic. It isn't just a matter of "suffering now in order to get eternal bliss later". I'm not saying that it's always easy (it isn't) but it does make life much more meaningful. And there's nothing fun about a life without meaning, is there?
 
In the future do you think pure science and spiritual truths merge?
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Yup. After all, science and spirituality both search for the same Ultimate Truth, so they are bound to agree with one another sooner or later.
 
"A very good observation, I would be interested to know more about these dreams, you are also correct to a certain degree.

Science has come to a crossroads; in their belief that everything can in some form or another be explained by using mathematical formula’s they have lost sight of the road. The cracks are already there and even though theoretic equations and seemingly correct formulas add up in some cases, they will continue to divide themselves.

They need to start thinking out of the box; they are looking to find the answers to the end of the puzzle hoping it will give them the answer to the beginning, to build a tower with part of the foundation missing

Fortunately for them they will get an initially surprising and somewhat confusing helping hand, it will lead some of them to re-think the whole concept and finally take a leap of face.

That discovery will be made by an archaeologist."


<font color="blue"> What would be an example of thinking outside of the box?

Perhaps I will share some of the dreams with you later. Particle, wave, cloudy vapour.
but it is beyond the "cloud" that interests me. To truly understand the universe you would have to understand the thoughts of God. To leave God out would be leaving out part of the foundation.
The beginning of the physical creation interests me greatly as well.

I would like to know in your game of connect-the-dots what image is appearing before you now
as you stand back and look over your continuous line drawn between your many dots.

I guess the most obvious question is&gt; What is it that the archaeologist finds? [/COLOR]
 
"Why can't we have both?

I happen to think that treating life as a spiritual journey is much more fun than being purely hedonistic. It isn't just a matter of "suffering now in order to get eternal bliss later". I'm not saying that it's always easy (it isn't) but it does make life much more meaningful. And there's nothing fun about a life without meaning, is there?"

i agree completely. i just think having both is kinda like a tightrope act if you know what i mean.
 
<font color="blue">PamelaM217 - What would be an example of thinking outside of the box?

Perhaps I will share some of the dreams with you later. Particle, wave, cloudy vapour.
but it is beyond the "cloud" that interests me. To truly understand the universe you would have to understand the thoughts of God. To leave God out would be leaving out part of the foundation.
The beginning of the physical creation interests me greatly as well.

I would like to know in your game of connect-the-dots what image is appearing before you now
as you stand back and look over your continuous line drawn between your many dots.

I guess the most obvious question is&gt; What is it that the archaeologist finds?[/COLOR]


Thinking outside of the box on a scientific level would be thinking to a certain extent, unscientific; as Edison (and others) did when he invented the light bulb.

You see, most of mankind's important discoveries have involved a leap of faith in one way or another, Newton’s discovery of Gravity although based on theory (with obvious physical examples) was trusting in the faith of his convictions, because he never truly understood Gravity.

Everyone at various times in their lives use their individual consciousness to make some of their most important judgments and decisions, history will show us that these are generally the times when significant human achievements occur.

One thing I can tell you is that the Earth will yet again be considered the ‘center of the universe’, admittedly more symbolic but with some factual justification.

As I stand and look at my Dots even though it makes things very clear to me there are still some areas where I have failed to make a ‘complete’ connection, I say this truthfully and cautiously.

It has been at least 8 months since I had anymore enlightening dreams and my research has still left one or two questions to complete the circle somewhat misty, I have no doubt however that I will receive the missing threads very soon.

I won’t say at this stage what they discover, although I will say it eventually proves that what was written and portrayed in the past has relevance on everything and everyone now and in the future.

To help you understand this better, what would you say if they found a piece of a micro chip entombed in the center of the main Pyramid? Or the remains of an Alien space craft buried in Germany dating back to the 1930’s?
 
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