A time travel Prison/rehab System?

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Hi OllyB,

Thanks for your extensive and interesting reply. I will definitely research your statements and reply sometime in the future (this timeline of course /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

I have a few questions for clarification to assist me in understanding your views.

1)Can you or anyone else point me to the 25 page earth history document of which you refernce? I would love to read it.

2) You state: after it was over one group went to one universe the other to another ours.
Are you saying that they have the ability to hop to parallel universes? (just curious - I'm trying to wrap my mind around all the alien races and their abilities).


3)How does this story overlap or intersect with the Annunaki story?

4)You state: the original fallen angels were not plejarens. This is an entirely different story. Based on old legend from earth universe history. The Wing makers material - backed up by both Billy and Al bielek explains this

Now don't take this personally but how can you say this is based on "old legend" ? There is much more physical and historical evidence concerning the Elohim/fallen angels (you know those Nordic looking folk) than the modern conjectures of Billy and Al. And what about how the Annunaki stories that Sitchin so thoroughly researched and documented closely tie in with a lot of the original Old Testament stories?


Thanks again and whilst awaiting a response I am off to see if I can find more info on the Wingmakers and the Earth history doc you referenced.

Regards...
 
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To creedo - why would THIS thread be moved to the technology section. Also, it was started by Roughneck not Rainmantime....
 
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Technical notes on the Pleiadeans say.

Ptaah, who supposedly had been in contact with the Billy Meier group, when asked about the Grays, said that they were a made-up figment of people's imagination.

In Gary Kinder's book, (Light Years) which was about the Meier landings, Kinder said and I quote, that the Pleiadeans had come to Earth with an ambassadorial group of Zeta Reticulans, which were supposedly onboard one of the Pleiadeans ships.

The statement by Ptaah as opposed to what Kinder has said in his book, does cause problems, because One it makes Kinder an agent of false information relay, if Semjase's father Ptaah is telling the truth?

Two, Ptaah is not telling the truth, then this telling only strengthens the accusations that the Meier farm based Pledieans, are being deceptive and there is no difference between them and the Nazi said based Pleiadeans.

I refer to the Plejarians as Pleiadeans, as legally this is this is the title they came to Earth with during the early Meier encounters and this will be the term that I will perminalty affix to them.

*Note a p.m. concerning the antics of the poster Entropy Sux is being sent to the MOP here, for his disruptive tactics on this board.
 
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>>>>> 1)Can you or anyone else point me to the 25 page earth history document of which you refernce? I would love to read it.<<<<<<<<

I read it at the meier webpage. Its <a href="http://www.billymeier.com" target="_blank">www.billymeier.com</a> i think. You could also try to find it at <a href="http://www.figu.org" target="_blank">www.figu.org</a> (and select th english version) it was in a particular contact note. I'm not sure if its one of the ones still up there though. I haven read it for about a year. Its very detailed. My overview was horrificly basic at best.

>>>>>2) You state: after it was over one group went to one universe the other to another ours. <<<<<<

Yes this does imply the can break the universal barrier. It will be a different universe, yes.


>>>>> 3)How does this story overlap or intersect with the Annunaki story? <<<<<

I have never actually read it. please give me a link and i'll look it up and see what i think. Or if i can help further.

>>>>>>>>>>.4)You state: the original fallen angels were not plejarens. This is an entirely different story. Based on old legend from earth universe history. The Wing makers material - backed up by both Billy and Al bielek explains this

Now don't take this personally but how can you say this is based on "old legend" ? There is much more physical and historical evidence concerning the Elohim/fallen angels (you know those Nordic looking folk) than the modern conjectures of Billy and Al. And what about how the Annunaki stories that Sitchin so thoroughly researched and documented closely tie in with a lot of the original Old Testament stories?<<<<<<<<<<

Well, its not really based on legend. Its just you can really prove it, so what you gonna do? so i just said it was legend as it an't be confirmed. It is according to the Wingmaker material the way it is. If you read this stuff its very profound and its hard not to take the stuff seriously. If its a fake. The people who wrote it must be mental with Zero social life. Its A LOT of info and some of it verges on metaphysics - thats just the philosophy parts. I'll try and find the particular info and PM you with it. Its a lengthy story.

I should also state, that the term 'fallen angels' has become a very loose phrase. I'm sure it does describe many things in biblical religion. However the 'old legend' (but apparently real) is literally about Fallen Angelic being from another realm of existance - nothing to do with blue eyes/blonde hair and all that jive. They literally generated back to a material state. Its best i email/PM you the info so you can read it.

Kind regards,
Olly B
 
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! This is precisely the kind of discourse for which I came here.

I am still digesting and researching the info that you so thoughtfully provided. I want to have a clear understanding before I reply in depth, but just wanted to let you know I have read it over.

As to your request for Annunaki info, it took me a year to go through all of Sitchin's material via his many books and find them to be quite a scholarly and thorough work. He has a website that "touches" on his material - but like Billy and the rest I guess you have to get the books to get the big picture. One of his links that will give you a quick overview of this particular topic is: Sitchin . Of course you can "Google" his name and find other folk's opinions as well.

The most interesting facet of this whole subject is finding the similarities in the theories presented by him and the others mentioned here. There are quite a few - the names have just been changed. Similar to my experience when studying the world's religions many years ago,

I look forward to further discussion on this topic.

Regards.
 
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I would like to respectfully request that this thread be moved to an appropriate area (Aliens and UFOs) as it has morphed from the original subject so that those interested in this topic can find it and join in.
That is if this is ok with Roughneck and everyone else.

Thank you.
 
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Entropy,

Thanks for the link. Will read it now. I think Creedo is right. Might aswell leave the thread as it is linked to time travel (history etc) and came about from a genuine TT question at the start.

It is, also for me, a nice break until the next * yawns * Titor thread rears its ugly mug! Which it no doubt will. Apologies for my horrendous spelling in this thread, too. Most of my replies were typed in a hurry.

Kind regards,
Olly.
 
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