a tesla/edison question

levitation Re: a tesla/edison question

huh, I don't know why those links are dead. They work if you copy and paste them. Or, go to google and type in "magnetic solar wind",. then go to "images" tab. You'll see a few images that show magnetic lines around the aerth. A few of these images have a certain point where the magnetic field breaks and re-attaches to itself labled as "neutral point" or "neutral sheet"
 
levitation Re: a tesla/edison question

lets try this...

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levitation Re: a tesla/edison question

do you even understand the amount of energy that experiment of that magnitude would require?
 
levitation Re: a tesla/edison question

of course I know how much energy is required. tEH amount of energy required is quite a bit according to E=mc2, however the amount is also somewhat misleading, as we are used to thinking in terms of un-efficient energy production and transmission. The more efficient you get at transferring the energy, the less energy you need to produce the desired result. The main reason why energies of this magnitude are available is due to new scalar technolgies. I used to design particle accelerators. Did you know that the Stanford Linear Accelerator (2 miles long) can now be produced the size of a short school bus. Yes, the short busses. Thats 5435% more efficient. And that short bus size technology does not use that nanotechnology that was recently produced in Sandia.
 
levitation Re: a tesla/edison question

Noticing that magnetosphere shape (i don't want to go out of topic here nor is this my intention) but I noticed this shape within it [if you tilt your head counter clockwise]:

an Angel?
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Has this been brought up before anywhere else?

Guardian Angel? or the Angel of Doom?

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well take a look of these pictures, look out of this timeline/world:
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http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/07/creepy-high-voltage-installations.html
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"Close Encounters of the "Tesla" Kind

Russian countryside yields sometimes most improbable sights - abandoned artifacts and installations from bizarre military/scientific research, strangely futuristic forms left to rust and decay - to be found by a curious photographer. "Master" stumbled upon this installation close to Russian city of Istra (50 km from Moscow) quite by chance, and these mysterious shots were percolating for a while around the web, until the answer was found. According to this little, cryptic, and quite secretive website, the weird alien-like towers are the Experimental Grounds for High-Voltage Generation, the only open-air kind in the world. Amazingly, it's still in use... as the powerful lightnings rip through the night and the darkened forest - much like in "The Prestige" movie."


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Regards
Apollo 20 Alien Spaceship on The Moon CSM Flyover
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ya know, its the funniest thing, when i started this thread i really didnt know a whole lot about tesla, or ac for that matter. i was totally on edisons side. now i believe tesla's system was the best of the two.

BUT! just think of how much energy is lost to conversion everyday. i imagine that this is one of the main things that upsetted edison so much.

from my experience with dc, the longer the wire, the bigger guage wiring you need. but, what if the wire had 0 impedance? wouldnt it be able to travel any distance with any guage wiring because it has no resistance?

the fist thing i was taught was ohms = resistance. the second, volts times amps = watts.

in other words, if dc current will not travel long distances with 0 ohm wiring, why not? and why is it that ac current can do what dc cannot? and instead of using ac and transformers, wouldnt dc and capacitors do the same thing?

and if anyone knows what a friggin sine wave is or does PLEASE tell me! its driving me nuts. seriously... /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

heres what i say. lets throw away every appliance in the world, rip down all o those nasty ac lines, and start from scratch! ummmm, then again that does sound like a good bit 'o work. lets not do it and just say we did. how about that?
 
I hope this helps...I know how it feels to have a nagging question around a bunch of folks that "should" have the answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_waves

Think Sinus waves.

Also... not meaning to stray to far off topic but in the photo of the earth and the solar wind and the magnetic sheath and all of that... Could you ascertain the charicterists of the planet from that tail? Like is it had water/water vapor or Oxygen?
 
Ruthless,

the fist thing i was taught was ohms = resistance. the second, volts times amps = watts.

in other words, if dc current will not travel long distances with 0 ohm wiring, why not?

First things first. Go back to Ohm's Law. You've stated the formula for watts as a function of voltage. But what is voltage?

V = IR (amperage * resistence).

If you have zero resistence then you have zero voltage.

Power, stated in watts is:

P = I^2 R(amperage squared times resistence). No resistence no power. No power no work.

Why can't you have a conductor with zero resistence? Because voltage is really electrons traveling through the conductor. They are (obviously) electrically charged. They are alternatively repelled by each other and attracted to the positively charged metal ion lattice in the conductor. They don't travel in a straight line from Point A to Point B - they wander. It's a lot more complex in E&M theory but that's resistence. If you get rid of the cause, electric and magnetic fields, you don't have electricity...but you do have no resistence (there's nothing to "resist"
).

The "sine wave" is really just an electrical trace on an oscilloscope of AC voltage or amperage. Its a graphical image of the phase, direction and magnitude of the current. It looks like a series of the letter "S" laying on their sides.

It shows the voltage building up from zero to peak (positive) voltage and then decaying back to zero and down the slope to peak (negative) voltage as the current switches directions in the conductor. They voltage alternates (thus AC - alternating current) 360 degrees peak-to-peak as the commutator in the generator rotates through 360 degrees. If you slide the trough of one half of the cycle over so that its two ends connect with the two ends of the top half of the cycle you'd have a 360 degree elipse.

Why did AC win out over DC for long distance transmission?

Back to Ohm's Law. P=I^2 R

That's power in once sense but it is also a way of measuring line loss in watts. Obviously you don't want to have a lot of line loss when you are delivering your product, electricity, to your customers. Someone has to pay for that inefficiency - that "someone" is the customer.

AC is transmitted at high voltage and low amperage. In our power loss equation amperage is squared. So you want to keep amperage as low as possible during long line transmission. It's a fairly easy task to generate high voltage low amperage AC current.

Unfortunately, it is difficult and inefficient to try to force DC out at high voltage and low amperage. DC wants to come out just the opposite - high amperage and low voltage. And there's the rub - the line loss is a function of the square of the amperage.
 
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