I don't know if you've all heard this a thousand times before, from the look of the Time Travel Institute discussions, it looks like you have, but I come from 2032. If anyone wants proof, I don't exactly know what to give...I certainly can't zig-zag to various years, gathering proof (which serves only one person, whoever asks anyway /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif ).
My friends, who are the scientists, and I attempted something similar to one of the suggestions here. The original suggestion was about going forward in time to your own dead body, and seeing somewhere on your dead body where there is no tattoo, and putting a tattoo on yourself in that same spot and seeing if it will "magically appear" on your dead future body. Needless to say, no body wanted to go forward in time and tamper with their future dead body.
We decided to use a cat. First we killed the cat (yes, sorry to say, but when you're bored and trying to solve time's paradoxes, you gotta break a few eggs to make an omlett, and a cat won't solve anyone's problems). We were going to take the live body and shave off some of its fur in the presense of its corpse, so that we see whether the corpse magically has hair shaven off. We decided to first put it in a room alive for a day with food and everything. We decided to come back the next day and kill it so that we could go back the previous day and make modifications. Needless to say, we left the cat in a lone room so that we don't meet our future selves and end the universe or something (we're fairly superstitious about that kind of stuff). Our reasoning was to have knowledge of when the cat was alive and when it was dead, so that we could time travel to the day before and go to the future when we know it's dead.
You will NOT believe what happened. It is perfectly logical, and none of us believed it either, but we all should have known. (this is probably why the other scientists consider my friends a bit dopey). We came in the next day to kill the cat and it was gone. We went back to the previous day into the lone room. The cat was there, alive. We sat, waited. We thought, did someone play a prank and steal the cat, or did the cat escape? Either way, we weren't very willing to stay there the entire day, but in the end we realized that the reason the cat was gone the day we were planning to kill it, was because...when you time travel with the cat and take it out of the room into the time machine with you..it's not gonna be there in the future..it's gonna be in your hands. So we gave up and let it go.
I know you will all probably say: You should have killed the cat and then time travelled to the past and gotten it, but this is impossible, because if you take the cat with you before it is killed and time travel to the future, there is no cat to kill in the mean time, so you will never find a corpse. This is the same with the case if you time travel to your own death: you simply can't! You will never find a corpse of yourself in the future, because the corpse is you time-travelling and disappearing in the mean time.
Anyway,
aside from that illuminating discovery, for which my friends will probably be recognized before my name is ever even known, since they are scientists and I'm pretty much a hired semi-test labrat (with respect to time travel), I want you all to know where I come from and who I am:
My name is Ralph Deissmann. I was born on July 14, 2010, in a Bulgarian city called Varna. Although my parents are German, I only speak Bulgarian and English. I came to the US when I was 10 and a half in March 2020. I'm interested in the paranormal, time travel, physics, the universe, etc; I like asking people what they think about various topics like that, though my job gets me distracted sometimes. If I could time travel anywhere, it'd be to something huge, either the invention of fire, or something like the big bang. I have a bit of dark humor, of course. I studied in the University of California Northridge, though I have no degree since this job has good pay. In a computer class I met one of my friends, who is part of the science team, Praveen, who has a degree in (what else) physics. Unfortunately, since I don't have a degree in physics I can only answer semi-technical questions about how time travel works.
What I can tell you is this: There are no other timelines; simply because the way I see it time doesn't exist in the way most people think (in my time they think the same thing I'm sure as here); there is only change which gives the perception of time forward. Since we remember the past, we assume it's something that we can go back to, but ultimately, what has to be realized is that the past does not exist. Einstein himself never treated time as anything but a spatial dimension. This doesn't mean nobody here exists. It simply means, with respect to the future, where I come from, none of this is real, in the same way the future isn't "real" to the present, yet the future will come, and the past came. In any case, the grandfather paradox is a paradox simply because there is a misunderstanding about free will. If you went back in time and tried to kill yourself, you would ultimately fail. This isn't because you have "no" free will; it is because you had a "different" free will. The past is fixed, but that's not because there is no free will, it is because there is only one way it can go, which has been determined by the choices of people who made it. What this means is that, you will ultimately fail to kill yourself, because you will ultimately not do it, since just like the missing cat, you would be missing. I know, someone will ask, but that means no one comes from the future to kill you. That is the whole point. If you were to actually kill yourself, you wouldn't be doing it. Thus you would not kill yourself, due to whatever circumstances. Think of it as a movie. The outcome is always the same, yet the characters clearly have free will in the meantime. The implications for this are that the future has only one outcome. This may come as a discomfort, but really it's nothing other than recognizing the fact that you are bound to make the choices you will make no matter what, and although they are set without the possibility of change, this setting is ultimately the result of your free will. So there is nothing to worry about.
With respect to the science behind time travel, the general picture is, well let's just say in my time a little more is known about how the universe works. A specific way is used to control the axis of the dimensions; an analogy (albeit somewhat incorrect) would be using force to shift the dimension of movement of an object. In this way, spacetime can be "uncoiled" and "redirected" so that you can change the direction of the dimension of "time". Using the lasers (I don't know what they're made of, but they're not regular lasers for certain), which is pretty much the best and safest way to transmit information, you send information back in time, which assembles into...well you, or in this case me. NEEDLESS to say, lots of cats and dogs died before this process could be perfected, since reassembling a living thing out of scratch can have, shall we say, errors? For example what if you reassemble the blood before you reassemble the blood vessels? They fall to the ground.
The time machine is a sphere-shaped compartment where I am strapped tightly inside, with no thing inside so that no unexpected scanning errors by the lasers occur. First, I have to shave my entire self. I have to be naked. Then they coat me into a glue-like substance to prevent anything from floating around the lasers in the room, which has to be absolutely dust free, so that I don't reappear in 1997 with half of my fingers missing because some piece of dust decided to wander around. I am put under a sedative which makes me go unconsciouss. I'm entirely numbed out before this so that I don't feel any discomfort (or death?) when I wake up in the year I'm sent to. Then they put me in a gridlocked "coffin" inside the compartment.
When I come to the year I'm sent, the feeling is somewhat eerie/discomforting. The numbing can't quite remove the effect of being "a whole new person" and waking up to it. What happens in essense is, you are "translated" to the year, so you are a copy of your body in every way, the original being "disintegrated" after you've been translated in the year you left. This might seem disturbing, because yes, I am a "copy". I'm not a hologram, I'm as real as any person, as real as my old self, it's just, I'm derived in a non-biological fashion. If any of you doubt this is possible, and that there is no way to rearrange molecules to exactly duplicate your "old" self, the brief explanation I got from the numerous time travellers I met, including the physical proof of dogs whose behavior was not changed, is this: Every month your cells change. You are a whole new "you" every other month, yet you are the same as you "ever were", so clearly there is no dilemma here.
Finally, the reason I came to this year. The thing is, I've been sent to find information regarding an incident in Pakistan. In Pakistan, some time in late January or early February of 2008, apparently someone planted a bomb in the Pakistani village of Aba Khel. These sorts of border "skirmishes" happen all the time, they have been happening for a long time, and that has always been a hot-spot where nukes might go off. FORTUNATELY, that has not happened, at least it hasn't happened yet. They don't know the cause, nor who did it and they will never know, because if they did, this information would have been sent and it would be known to me right now. So, I can't "kill" whoever did it, or stop him, because it has already happened. The fact is, at the time they thought it was the Indian government, even though a detailed analysis showed that to be nearly impossible: the bomb was pakistani, the locals heard and saw pakistanis in pakistani clothing etc. Needless to say, the Indian government was not very forthcoming in defending itself against the accusations, which started a bit of a war something like world war 1. By that I mean, a conflict that has been going on for over 20 years (since December, 2011), and one which is sort of dire since nobody is willing to give up. About 13 million Pakistanis/Indians/UN troops have died. I, as well as anyone they've sent after me, as they said they would (whether they sent them a longer time ago or in the near future, I don't know), need to gather enough proof that it wasn't the Indian government so that the conflict ends. It can't be ended before it starts. As the example of the black cat, there would be no one to stop it if we were to do so, and I wouldn't be here in the first place, because they would have been stopped a long time ago. However, what I'm able to do is try to get the proof I need.
FINALLY, to those who are probably never going to believe me, I'll try to give some proof. I'm sorry that I can't go to various years and gather fairly irrelevant to 99% of the world information, but I'm not in the best situation to tell the authorities to send me to where I please, as opposed to where I'm supposed to go. All I can do is offer major events, in a verifiable time-frame (less than 6 months):
-Gas Prices will hit $4 for the first time in January 2010 (I checked an almanac in my university's library for that one; would you believe it that in 1945, 1 gallon was 5 cents!)
-A plane will crash either before or in December 2009, somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere, I don't remember where, but it was a major event and it will kill about 50 people
-A big earthquake in Israel before the end of 2009.
-I think some politician, either in Russia, or the US was killed before 2009, but don't quote me on that.
Anyway, any responses are appreciated /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
My friends, who are the scientists, and I attempted something similar to one of the suggestions here. The original suggestion was about going forward in time to your own dead body, and seeing somewhere on your dead body where there is no tattoo, and putting a tattoo on yourself in that same spot and seeing if it will "magically appear" on your dead future body. Needless to say, no body wanted to go forward in time and tamper with their future dead body.
We decided to use a cat. First we killed the cat (yes, sorry to say, but when you're bored and trying to solve time's paradoxes, you gotta break a few eggs to make an omlett, and a cat won't solve anyone's problems). We were going to take the live body and shave off some of its fur in the presense of its corpse, so that we see whether the corpse magically has hair shaven off. We decided to first put it in a room alive for a day with food and everything. We decided to come back the next day and kill it so that we could go back the previous day and make modifications. Needless to say, we left the cat in a lone room so that we don't meet our future selves and end the universe or something (we're fairly superstitious about that kind of stuff). Our reasoning was to have knowledge of when the cat was alive and when it was dead, so that we could time travel to the day before and go to the future when we know it's dead.
You will NOT believe what happened. It is perfectly logical, and none of us believed it either, but we all should have known. (this is probably why the other scientists consider my friends a bit dopey). We came in the next day to kill the cat and it was gone. We went back to the previous day into the lone room. The cat was there, alive. We sat, waited. We thought, did someone play a prank and steal the cat, or did the cat escape? Either way, we weren't very willing to stay there the entire day, but in the end we realized that the reason the cat was gone the day we were planning to kill it, was because...when you time travel with the cat and take it out of the room into the time machine with you..it's not gonna be there in the future..it's gonna be in your hands. So we gave up and let it go.
I know you will all probably say: You should have killed the cat and then time travelled to the past and gotten it, but this is impossible, because if you take the cat with you before it is killed and time travel to the future, there is no cat to kill in the mean time, so you will never find a corpse. This is the same with the case if you time travel to your own death: you simply can't! You will never find a corpse of yourself in the future, because the corpse is you time-travelling and disappearing in the mean time.
Anyway,
aside from that illuminating discovery, for which my friends will probably be recognized before my name is ever even known, since they are scientists and I'm pretty much a hired semi-test labrat (with respect to time travel), I want you all to know where I come from and who I am:
My name is Ralph Deissmann. I was born on July 14, 2010, in a Bulgarian city called Varna. Although my parents are German, I only speak Bulgarian and English. I came to the US when I was 10 and a half in March 2020. I'm interested in the paranormal, time travel, physics, the universe, etc; I like asking people what they think about various topics like that, though my job gets me distracted sometimes. If I could time travel anywhere, it'd be to something huge, either the invention of fire, or something like the big bang. I have a bit of dark humor, of course. I studied in the University of California Northridge, though I have no degree since this job has good pay. In a computer class I met one of my friends, who is part of the science team, Praveen, who has a degree in (what else) physics. Unfortunately, since I don't have a degree in physics I can only answer semi-technical questions about how time travel works.
What I can tell you is this: There are no other timelines; simply because the way I see it time doesn't exist in the way most people think (in my time they think the same thing I'm sure as here); there is only change which gives the perception of time forward. Since we remember the past, we assume it's something that we can go back to, but ultimately, what has to be realized is that the past does not exist. Einstein himself never treated time as anything but a spatial dimension. This doesn't mean nobody here exists. It simply means, with respect to the future, where I come from, none of this is real, in the same way the future isn't "real" to the present, yet the future will come, and the past came. In any case, the grandfather paradox is a paradox simply because there is a misunderstanding about free will. If you went back in time and tried to kill yourself, you would ultimately fail. This isn't because you have "no" free will; it is because you had a "different" free will. The past is fixed, but that's not because there is no free will, it is because there is only one way it can go, which has been determined by the choices of people who made it. What this means is that, you will ultimately fail to kill yourself, because you will ultimately not do it, since just like the missing cat, you would be missing. I know, someone will ask, but that means no one comes from the future to kill you. That is the whole point. If you were to actually kill yourself, you wouldn't be doing it. Thus you would not kill yourself, due to whatever circumstances. Think of it as a movie. The outcome is always the same, yet the characters clearly have free will in the meantime. The implications for this are that the future has only one outcome. This may come as a discomfort, but really it's nothing other than recognizing the fact that you are bound to make the choices you will make no matter what, and although they are set without the possibility of change, this setting is ultimately the result of your free will. So there is nothing to worry about.
With respect to the science behind time travel, the general picture is, well let's just say in my time a little more is known about how the universe works. A specific way is used to control the axis of the dimensions; an analogy (albeit somewhat incorrect) would be using force to shift the dimension of movement of an object. In this way, spacetime can be "uncoiled" and "redirected" so that you can change the direction of the dimension of "time". Using the lasers (I don't know what they're made of, but they're not regular lasers for certain), which is pretty much the best and safest way to transmit information, you send information back in time, which assembles into...well you, or in this case me. NEEDLESS to say, lots of cats and dogs died before this process could be perfected, since reassembling a living thing out of scratch can have, shall we say, errors? For example what if you reassemble the blood before you reassemble the blood vessels? They fall to the ground.
The time machine is a sphere-shaped compartment where I am strapped tightly inside, with no thing inside so that no unexpected scanning errors by the lasers occur. First, I have to shave my entire self. I have to be naked. Then they coat me into a glue-like substance to prevent anything from floating around the lasers in the room, which has to be absolutely dust free, so that I don't reappear in 1997 with half of my fingers missing because some piece of dust decided to wander around. I am put under a sedative which makes me go unconsciouss. I'm entirely numbed out before this so that I don't feel any discomfort (or death?) when I wake up in the year I'm sent to. Then they put me in a gridlocked "coffin" inside the compartment.
When I come to the year I'm sent, the feeling is somewhat eerie/discomforting. The numbing can't quite remove the effect of being "a whole new person" and waking up to it. What happens in essense is, you are "translated" to the year, so you are a copy of your body in every way, the original being "disintegrated" after you've been translated in the year you left. This might seem disturbing, because yes, I am a "copy". I'm not a hologram, I'm as real as any person, as real as my old self, it's just, I'm derived in a non-biological fashion. If any of you doubt this is possible, and that there is no way to rearrange molecules to exactly duplicate your "old" self, the brief explanation I got from the numerous time travellers I met, including the physical proof of dogs whose behavior was not changed, is this: Every month your cells change. You are a whole new "you" every other month, yet you are the same as you "ever were", so clearly there is no dilemma here.
Finally, the reason I came to this year. The thing is, I've been sent to find information regarding an incident in Pakistan. In Pakistan, some time in late January or early February of 2008, apparently someone planted a bomb in the Pakistani village of Aba Khel. These sorts of border "skirmishes" happen all the time, they have been happening for a long time, and that has always been a hot-spot where nukes might go off. FORTUNATELY, that has not happened, at least it hasn't happened yet. They don't know the cause, nor who did it and they will never know, because if they did, this information would have been sent and it would be known to me right now. So, I can't "kill" whoever did it, or stop him, because it has already happened. The fact is, at the time they thought it was the Indian government, even though a detailed analysis showed that to be nearly impossible: the bomb was pakistani, the locals heard and saw pakistanis in pakistani clothing etc. Needless to say, the Indian government was not very forthcoming in defending itself against the accusations, which started a bit of a war something like world war 1. By that I mean, a conflict that has been going on for over 20 years (since December, 2011), and one which is sort of dire since nobody is willing to give up. About 13 million Pakistanis/Indians/UN troops have died. I, as well as anyone they've sent after me, as they said they would (whether they sent them a longer time ago or in the near future, I don't know), need to gather enough proof that it wasn't the Indian government so that the conflict ends. It can't be ended before it starts. As the example of the black cat, there would be no one to stop it if we were to do so, and I wouldn't be here in the first place, because they would have been stopped a long time ago. However, what I'm able to do is try to get the proof I need.
FINALLY, to those who are probably never going to believe me, I'll try to give some proof. I'm sorry that I can't go to various years and gather fairly irrelevant to 99% of the world information, but I'm not in the best situation to tell the authorities to send me to where I please, as opposed to where I'm supposed to go. All I can do is offer major events, in a verifiable time-frame (less than 6 months):
-Gas Prices will hit $4 for the first time in January 2010 (I checked an almanac in my university's library for that one; would you believe it that in 1945, 1 gallon was 5 cents!)
-A plane will crash either before or in December 2009, somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere, I don't remember where, but it was a major event and it will kill about 50 people
-A big earthquake in Israel before the end of 2009.
-I think some politician, either in Russia, or the US was killed before 2009, but don't quote me on that.
Anyway, any responses are appreciated /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
