Wake up, people!

Cyrus

Temporal Novice
To the residents of this forum:

Please stop giving this John Titor story so much attention! Please get a grip on reality, why am I pleading this to you? Because in my opinion there are SOME genuine supernatural phenomena in this world. (A very small percent of UFO encounters and Near Death Experiences for instance.) but we'll never be able to filter the good from the bad if people keep jumping over every dubious story and rumor which crops up on the internet. Don't believe everything you read and always stay rational otherwise the line between the world of the supernatural and stark raving madness will never be seperated and thus people who try to investigate the authentic stuff will continue to get ridiculed and scorned by the academic community from all sides.

Let's take Occams Razor into consideration here. The simplest of two competing hypotheses is often the correct one, so we have:

1.) John Titor was a worldline traveller from the year 2036 sent to secure a computer from 1975, along the way he tries to reach out to the world via paranormal internet forums.

2.) John Titor was a group of bored college students who stay up to date with politics / news, are good at making predictions, and are likely studying behavioral psychology.

It doesn't take a genius, folks...

It doesn't surprise me that so many people were so ready to surrender themselves to the John Titor story and begin digging bunkers in their backyard. This is because our lives are often very unexciting and boring, and our souls crave deliverance from this. But you don't need hoaxes like Titor to make your life interesting, why don't you go outside and do something important or meaningful instead of clinging to a story?

The titor story is downright embaressing at times. Think for a minute about the person(s) responsible for this hoax, he/she likely browses this very forum and shakes his/her head in sadness at the madness which continues even after 3 1/2 years. It's actually become a silly movie and a radio play, and all someone had to do was craft some elaborate posts on some internet forums. What a precident this sets for any old yahoo seeking attention.

And what about the "Death of John Titor" thread?? Here we have someone claiming to be 'Sam Rodriguez' saying he's the one who fabricated the whole story. This means that either the madness has spread so far that there are actually people creating hoaxes about being the hoaxer, or that the Real John Shady actually revealed himself as the hoaxer and everyone, so caught up in the fantasy, simply ignored him instead of giving it credence.

Think about it this way, the more you commit yourself to the Titor story (And it's understandable if you do because it was a very convincing story.) the harder you're gonna fall when it turns out the thing was a hoax, you are going to feel very stupid. There's gonna be a massive sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach, and it will likely turn you to alcoholism. You can avoid this early on by grounding yourself in some healthy british skepticism.

I admit, he made some good predictions. And there's been no absolute proof he was a fraud, so we may all still get nuked in 2015. I mean you never know, however I'm gonna ask something of the people on this forum:

If by January 1st, 2006, there is still no sign of an impeding civil war in our country, or civil unrest, then please discontinue the Titor story... Do it for the sake of good science, when the story starts to smell seriously like fraud. Don't cling to it just because you wanna believe. It paints a bad picture on the rest of us.

Cyrus K

(P.S: I apologize for all serious the grammatical errors. it's 3:30 and I really don't have the time to proof read this post.) /ttiforum/images/graemlins/cry.gif
 
No need to apologize. I agree. John Titor is proably a fake, as shown in the re-rendered photo on one of our forums. Probably, he just made a big hoax. I apologize if this offends people, but Cyrus is right, you guys need reality checks.
 
Just because people are talking about the John Titor story does not mean they believe in him unquestionably. If that were so, they would not be asking questions would they? They would be taking it as the gospel.

As it is, they are debating it. Asking this way and that, testing, poking, and teasing here. Does it hold up or does it not?

It's 2004.. it's inevitable that there is going to be chatter. Might as well scream at the sun not to come up.

If you are correct, then by 2006 you should hear a lot less about John Titor.. more definitely so by 2008.
 
Just because people are talking about the John Titor story does not mean they believe in him unquestionably. If that were so, they would not be asking questions would they? They would be taking it as the gospel.

As it is, they are debating it. Asking this way and that, testing, poking, and teasing here. Does it hold up or does it not?

I really wish this were true. Remember their are different degrees of beleif. There are people arming and/or allowing this to affect their lives "just in case." I've been around quite some time and have seen folks practically worship JT. These folks truly should wake up and stop preparing for "if JT is true" and live their lives normally.

Really, if you choose to believe JT, at the very least, wait until a few of his specific predictions prove true before allowing it to affect your lives.

Thanks for the thread Cyrus
 
There are people arming and/or allowing this to affect their lives "just in case." I've been around quite some time and have seen folks practically worship JT. These folks truly should wake up and stop preparing for "if JT is true" and live their lives normally.
A-freaking-men, TampaUSA!

I would even extend your "live their lives normally" comment. I am one who believes that the power of positive thinking is a scientific principle of how one creates the life they choose. If these folks who constantly "worry" about JT predictions coming true were to actually turn the whole thing on its head, and begin to envision what they can do to PREVENT these things from coming to pass, their energy would be spent much more efficiently.

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
If there is no war by 06' we should keep him around! What are you talking about!

This would be proof for anyone to come (in the near future) and say that there was a Time traveller, or they are a time traveller... we just say "*Cough* John Titor *cough*" and have a nice laugh while the guy who claims to be from the future doesn't know whats going on...

No one can say that he was real if nothing happened, so don't worry.
 
If there is no war by 06' we should keep him around! What are you talking about!

This would be proof for anyone to come (in the near future) and say that there was a Time traveller, or they are a time traveller... we just say "*Cough* John Titor *cough*" and have a nice laugh while the guy who claims to be from the future doesn't know whats going on...

No one can say that he was real if nothing happened, so don't worry.

I think "no war by 06'" would qualify as one of his many false specific predictions.
 
Well, I for one like the debate on John Titor, because there is more information to be found.

On Anomalies.net's forum, there are a bunch of people trying to follow the clues and trails left behind, trying to see if they can discover a hoaxer or if the people trying to make money off this story [such as the book] are related to whoever posted as John Titor.

Strange clues have been found.. such as this URL John Titor for PRESIDENT?! at <a href="http://www.americanfederalempire.org" target="_blank">www.americanfederalempire.org (or .com)</a>

So hoaxer or not, I am fascinated by what both sides of this story have to report back..
 
If there is no war by 06' we should keep him around! What are you talking about!
I don't know....what are YOU talking about TSO? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Was this directed at something I said? If so, I can't quite figure out what you are responding to.

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
Certain elements and deductions of the Titor story lend credence to other theories and speculation.

I consider Titor to be alot like Schroedinger's cat. He's both a time traveller and not a time traveller. When people read and communicated with Titor, this was done in the same manner.

Some communicated as if he wasn't a time traveller. Some communicated as if he was.

Who's to say now how this affects the frequency?

Consider this in all your dealings with people. Be excellent to each other. We're all travellers on the same journey. I say "Wake up" for different reasons. The signs are all around us now, we have a long time ahead of us, but if we're not careful, that time will be altogether too short.

Timeline79
 
Well, I for one like the debate on John Titor, because there is more information to be found..
..So hoaxer or not, I am fascinated by what both sides of this story have to report back..

Oh! Don't get me wrong... Some of you may know that I've been stirring the proverbial JT pot for some time now. Although JT was not a Time Traveler, I'm sure we all agree that he is one very interesting and troubled individual. I'll definitely miss the intrigue he brought with his story. His story line is about to come to a final really lame a$$ conclusion.
 
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