Titor... Not Full Disclosure Just Yet, But....

Ya think im playing? i havent a lot of time to come here these days. i most certainly am not messing about.
There is a lot more important things going on at the moment to devote too much to this, but let me know when you want to talk.
Your middle name begins with an "E" and you have ties to IBM and the Navy.
If your not bothered i will just gradually disclose you and then disclose your provable in court links to Titor.
Ciao
 
I do not respond or bother with fools nor vulgarities.
Let me just say that a current employment opportunity has made the research much easier.
I was never obsessed, but nevertheless interested in the subject. My Place of work has made it easier to name the Person that was posting as TT0. It is a provable trail, that makes more sense at every step.
Time to put this baby to bed. 10 Years would be too long.
Time to throw the script in the bin.
 
Shadow,

Well, let's see (follow along - it's interesting). Over the past three months we've had about three different individuals who are totally convinced that they have finally Found the Pope in the Pizza. It's a slam dunk.

However, unless Boomer's full name is nine words long, i.e. he has three entirely different "first" names, three entirely different "middle" names and at least two entirely different "last" names (I'm assuming that your Titor's last name will be unique) then at least two of the totally convinced people are incorrect.

Here's all that I ask of you if you're going to make a disclosure: Please - no home addresses, no work place names and addresses, no phone numbers, don't drag family, roomates, friends and other irrelevent names into play.

One recent "researcher" named at least a dozen people as being involved in Group Titor - none of whom had had anything to do with the Titor Saga since 2001. He named them because they had posted fewer than a dozen times on the original Titor threads. He was 100% sure that "they" were one large set of sock-puppet Titor accounts. That was his "evidence". It apparently didn't ocur to him that most of the original posters quickly became bored with the topic and moved on. Several of them contacted me and the researcher. Oops! No sock-puppets to be found.

Switch up and...

He next named every Moderator, Admin and owner for this site and Anomalies.net as being Group Titor. And he was again absolutely sure of it. Another slam dunk. Fact! Posted. Blogged. uTubed. Game over. I again pointed him to the facts.

Another switch up came. Now the slam dunk was Jonathan (John) Richard Haber, Larry Haber's "brother". Why? Because PI Mike Lynch said so in the RAI TV program in Italy, and he ran with it. Reason behind it? John Haber of Florida has owned several computer related businesses. John Titor was a computer geek. It fits! Well, not exactly. Rich Haber is Larry's younger brother and Larry is 50 years old. Rich is younger than 50. John Haber started his first business in Florida in the mid 1960's. So, Rich Haber, aka John Haber, started his first business with his wife and daughter (they are listed as his partners on the first business) when he was , what? Three or four years old? Before he was born? Married business owner, with children, at age four or immaculately, before he was born. Wrong again. He's taking a break from his Titor "research". In the mean time yet another person has been dragged into the Titor Saga by name on zero facts or evidence and people are looking deep for his home address, phone number, where he works... When they find the information what do they plan to do with it? Harrass him at home until he confesses? Harass his family, friends, neighbors? Over John Fracking Titor? That's nutz!

"Titor" is supposed to be fun and entertainment - maybe even thought provoking for some people, but for the life of me I don't get that one at all - on a fantasy alt-sci time travel forum. He is not a threat to national security, never was and never will be. But there are a number nutcases "out there" for whom this isn't a game. For some reason Titor, to them, is frightening, a threat.

My growing concern is that some day one of them will take information posted on one of the forums here or elsewhere that identifies the home or work address of one of the "identified" Titors, end up on their front porch, ranting, raving and demanding an explanation, a confession and trajedy will ensue...someone will get hurt.

You might think that I'm overplaying this. I'm not. I've received Titor related emails every week for the past ten years because I was an original poster here and on Post-2-Post. The vast majority of them are simply people asking for advice as to where to find the posts or asking my opinion on some aspect of the story. Others are from foreign media people asking for interviews (with one exception, George Noory's show a few years ago, I politely decline). Fair enough so far. But there are also the lunatics who want to rant from both sides of the issue and there are the very few who have asked me to join them in criminal acts to steal Titor "suspects'" ISP client account information. Yes, I absolutely refuse to join them and have cautioned them that they'll end up in prison. But some of them have apparently gone ahead and obtained the information by illegal means. Again, what is their intention? We know that they are willing to commit white collar crimes against Titor "suspects". What else might these lunatics have in mind?

So, have some fun with this. But use your common sense when mulling over just what is and what is not appropriate information for posting on an alt-sci forum as it pertains to a someone's privacy and security.
 
You know what is going to happen Darby is someone innocent is going to end up getting hurt that didn't do a damn thing. There seems to be a lot of assumptions and no or very little questionable evidence. I have been accused several times and threatened myself just recently.
I have even been told just recently that I had 24 hours to tell them everything they wanted to know or else. I hope no one has plans of coming to my house uninvited.

I am positive information is being gained illegally they are lucky I don't press charges.
Threatening people online, falsely accusing people of doing things they never did and obtaining
personal information illegally is all going on behind the scenes.

So I hope if someone is "exposing" someone online they better be damn sure they really did what they are accusing them of.
 
-Darby- Pineshade incident circa 2004 ...
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Ad infinitum...
 
Re: Titor... Scenary 1 Act 1

Their type of conversation is over.

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Scenary 1 Act 1
-- this is a Time maker---
Quoting "da bills":
The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, the NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51 and HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20 :

2. Under the National Emergency Act, the President "may seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communication, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and, in a variety of ways, control the lives of United States citizens."

12. Any physician or other health care provider who refuses to perform medical examination or vaccinations as directed shall be liable for delicensure and the inability to continue to practice in the State.

Article V Section 504(b). The Act gives the public health authority the right to isolate or quarantine a person on an ex parte court order, with no hearing for at least 72 hours. If the public health authority decides that an unvaccinated person is a risk to others, even if uninfected, he could be quarantined, per Article V Section 503(e).

: "Neither the State, its political subdivisions, nor, except in cases of gross negligence or willful misconduct, the Governor, the public health authority, or any other State official referenced in this Act, is liable for the death of or any injury to persons, or damage to property, as a result of complying with or attempting to comply with this Act or any rule or regulations promulgated pursuant to this Act," per Article VIII Section 804.

23. The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, signed on May 9, 2007 declares that in the event of a “catastrophic event”;

"The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government."

(1) this directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.

24.(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.“

27. The WHO and UN will become the controlling agencies in the US in the event of a declared pandemic level 6.

54. The WHO Pandemic Six level declaration entitles President Obama to impose martial law and deploy FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security "Pandemic Task Forces". Each State Governor will be notified that the provisions of the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) will be implemented. This means that all Americans must consent to mass vaccinations, or be guilty of a felony crime. The legal situation is that anyone who refuses the vaccine, and/or resists forced relocation to a prepared "quarantine compound", can "legally" be shot and killed because police are allowed to use "deadly force“ against felony suspects.


Please comment...

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Re: Titor... Scenary 1 Act 1

23. The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, signed on May 9, 2007 declares that in the event of a “catastrophic event”;

"The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government."

This whole document is blather. What it actually says, in real life terms, is that if you don't do exactly as you are told, when you are told, they will do nasty things to you. Forget the B.S. about "ensuring constitutional government." The constitution is just toilet paper. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Offhand, this looks like a spurious document. But conditions being what they are, one cannot be certain off that anymore.
 
Re: Titor... Scenary 1 Act 2

sooner than you think, near your town:

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Caption said:
<font color="purple">Your fiat money at work building these bi-level prison cars (by the thousands according to the San Francisco Chronicle) built by KBR (Kellogg, Brown and Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton). These were parked on the tracks behind a pecan orchard managed by one of my friends in Texas a few months back. They were completely hidden from the highway that paralleled the orchard.The Fetid Feds only moved them at night. It has been reported that some of these beauties have been prepositioned in each state. (Submitted by Ric H.) [/COLOR]

more at:
Link to more...
 
Personally, I really don't think it matters in the least who Titor 'really is'.

In fact....all the 'hoaxbusters' do now is continue to stir up the story.........when most sensible people knew years ago that John Titor was a hoax and had him 'busted' from day one.

The problem with the entire Titor story was that of not enough people simply typing 'lol'....while all the sock puppets spun the story and tried to create mystery and intrigue and keep the whole thing going long enough for a 'true believer' crowd to emerge.

Without that 'true believer' crowd......Titor would have been just another outrageous claim laughed and and forgotten by next day.
 
I agree. The John Titor Saga is actually a fairly small pond. Even the biggest ripples, are still quite small. I wrote an e-mail to a very well published Science Fiction Writer, interested to see what he might have to say about the whole thing.

This writer writes on time travel and uses a multiverse plot in most of his books, and his response summed it up for me...

"John who ?"
 
Re: Titor... Scenary 1 Act 3

then things got to get in warm state...

Quoted:

National Level Exercise 2009 (NLE 09)

National Level Exercise 2009 (NLE 09) is scheduled for July 27 through July 31, 2009. NLE 09 will be the first major exercise conducted by the United States government that will focus exclusively on terrorism prevention and protection, as opposed to incident response and recovery.

NLE 09 is designated as a Tier I National Level Exercise. Tier I exercises (formerly known as the Top Officials exercise series or TOPOFF) are conducted annually in accordance with the National Exercise Program (NEP), which serves as the nation's overarching exercise program for planning, organizing, conducting and evaluating national level exercises. The NEP was established to provide the U.S. government, at all levels, exercise opportunities to prepare for catastrophic crises ranging from terrorism to natural disasters.

NLE 09 is a White House directed, Congressionally- mandated exercise that includes the participation of all appropriate federal department and agency senior officials, their deputies, staff and key operational elements. In addition, broad regional participation of state, tribal, local, and private sector is anticipated. This year the United States welcomes the participation of Australia, Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom in NLE 09.

EXERCISE FOCUS

NLE 09 will focus on intelligence and information sharing among intelligence and law enforcement communities, and between international, federal, regional, state, tribal, local and private sector participants.

NLE 09 will be an operations-based exercise to include: activities taking place at command posts, emergency operation centers, intelligence centers and potential field locations to include federal headquarters facilities in the Washington D.C. area, and in federal, regional, state, tribal, local and private sector facilities in FEMA Region VI, which includes the states of Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas and California.
more at:
<font color="red"> FEMA.gov [/COLOR]
 
Re: Titor... Scenary 2 Act 1: \"Da regions\"

Quoted:

July 29, 2009 -- Updated 0220 GMT (1020 HKT)

From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.

The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.

The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.

It has yet to be determined how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces.

Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.

As a first step, Gates is being asked to sign a so-called "execution order" that would authorize the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the proposed plan.

Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later, depending on how much of a health threat the flu poses this fall, the officials said.

end quoted
from:
CNN
 
Re: Titor... Scenary 2 Act 1: \"Da regions\"

Recall..

Since you have it all figured out what the "United States" is going to do...how about some information on what the government of "your" country is going to do ?

Don't you have any Conspiracy Theories about your own country ? or is it that you might be rounded up late one night IF you bag on what "your" government is doing ?
 
Re: Titor... Scenary 2 Act 1: \"Da regions\"

Actually, I have a major conspiracy exposing that I could do ( have done it elsewhere in another forum ).....but to do so I need to find again the site that had pics of the woman standing in the hole left in the side of the WTC. There is one particular pic I have to find......that reveals something quite remarkable that almost everyone missed.
 
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