Titor information, please step forward?

RainmanTime

RainmanTime

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An anonymous friend of mine asked me to post the following questions about the Titor affair, to see if anyone could provide some answers:
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If you know of this information concerning Titor and this case was either real, or unreal, then please disclose this information?

What was the style of the confinement case holding the said General Electric Time Displacement Unit?

Was this case a standard off the shelf military utility shelf item, or an item brought elsewhere?

If so where was the series stamp number, or tag on the case located?

If you are ignorant of where this number was located, then was the outer surface of this containment case, smooth or rough to the touch?

2.What material was the Tipler housing made of, that supposedly housed, the internal working of the outer projection fields of the alter Kerr's phenominons.

Say it was steel iron a mixtured metal, but please tell us what types of metal that these were made of?

3.If you were really John Titor, was Pamela Moore, who disseminated a great deal of this information, genuinely involved in the Ttior case, or not?

Say she either was, or was not involved in dealing with said John Titor?

These questions only provide some detail into the actions, of the said John Titor case and we only want some level of verification to these asked items only.
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I agree with my anonymous friend, as I too would like to see some verification of Titor's claims. While my friend says these asked items only, I would like to see some more verifiable evidence or answers on a few other items. But I won't add to the above list for now.

RMT (as an agent for X)
 
RMT

Over at anomalies.net there was a serious search going on for quite a while to locate and identify the box that housed Titor's gadget. Lots of posters agreed it was a military ammo box. But no one could locate a box that looked exactly like Titors. As far as I know, to this day, no one has identified the housing box yet.
 
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If you know of this information concerning Titor and this case was either real, or unreal, then please disclose this information?

What was the style of the confinement case holding the said General Electric Time Displacement Unit?

Was this case a standard off the shelf military utility shelf item, or an item brought elsewhere?

If so where was the series stamp number, or tag on the case located?

If you are ignorant of where this number was located, then was the outer surface of this containment case, smooth or rough to the touch?

2.What material was the Tipler housing made of, that supposedly housed, the internal working of the outer projection fields of the alter Kerr's phenominons.

Say it was steel iron a mixtured metal, but please tell us what types of metal that these were made of?

3.If you were really John Titor, was Pamela Moore, who disseminated a great deal of this information, genuinely involved in the Ttior case, or not?

Say she either was, or was not involved in dealing with said John Titor?

These questions only provide some detail into the actions, of the said John Titor case and we only want some level of verification to these asked items only.
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I agree with my anonymous friend, as I too would like to see some verification of Titor's claims. While my friend says these asked items only, I would like to see some more verifiable evidence or answers on a few other items. But I won't add to the above list for now.

RMT (as an agent for X)

TPM of MST = (Triplex Physical Matrix) of (Massive SpaceTime)
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Have your friend step forward, why hide in the shadows? Is there something going on, like 500 ATF and FBI agents at a gun show, perhaps in Richmond? (Although I personally have nothing to do with any gun shows or selling of any such items, related or not!)

1)
See physicists like Kip Thorne, Amos Ori, Dr. Kaku, Dr. Brown, and others e-mailed. The general thought as of now is -- not real!
But then -- -- Humans are dangerous! (A.C. original thread "I am from 2036")

2) Rectangular Box. (it appears to be a rectangle!)

3) Unknown, or not found yet! (depends on opinion)

4) Not known, not found! (only appears like instructions listed on lid of box)

5) Not known, not touched. Not seen! Only in pictures! Could be grainy a little from pictures and not smooth on the outside!

6) Unknown, unknown, unknown!

7) Not known!

8) I am not John Titor. Neither is Pamela. Only Internet Contact. Perhaps, like a Close Encounter of the First Kind (or is that the Second Kind?). Much like this question session -- Internet Contact only. Information all given by TimeTravel_0 or John Titor!

Now, my question --- WHY?
You can still read the information for yourself, on this forum - - page around probably 74-75 and over at the Anomalies Forum!

Now you know about as much as anyone else knows about it including several key physicists!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html
Original pictures shown but cleaned up by Titor:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010522234641/http://artbell.com/letters11.html

First 5 pages of the Art Bell BBS Forum -- Post to Post in the Archive, but only the first 5 pages -- and the last page -- because the Art Bell BBS Forum ended in May of 2001, and the crawler did not archive the entire thread, and could not because like other websites that go down or change names, it was gone, and the web crawler program does not archive everything anyway.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010516223421/http://bbs.artbell.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20010603064617/bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25
Now for the "I am from 2036" thread at that time, and as it was back in 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010413040119/bbs.artbell.com/showthread.php?threadid=1203

Page 73 (now page 112 or so) or so of the original forum: (Time travel discussion)
The original thread "Time Travel Paradoxes" here but only the first post: (thread corrupted and another thread about that, but find it yourselves!!!!!
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=8772&page=112&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

page 69 or so (now page hundred freakin' six or so read page107) of the original forum:
The thread "Topic Limited to 11 Pages?" original thread:
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=9237&page=106&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

page 31 or 32 ( now page 33) or so at Anomalies:
The original thread "I am from 2040" --- (Titor Nemesis!)(if links do not work do the work!)
http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000032

page 28 or so at Anomalies}>
The original thread saved from TTI of "Time-travel Paradoxes" (and as you can see the first post is the same post listed at the TTI link!)
http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000277

The original thread at Anomalies of "I am from 2036" (slightly edited and not really changed and I know, I still have it, and all the place mats of the original postings make it difficult to even work with, but a very few post were deleted that were not needed)(now on page 4):
http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000024

The entire original thread can still be read from Anomalies on the John Picture Page there, and can be downloaded to read at home:
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html ---- as it says there on that page!

That is about it for the person posting as John Titor except for the "chats" and one is listed at the Anomalies page of John the Time Traveller, as well as the Faxes posted to Art Bell, that one can find also at Anomalies. The rest of the original threads are a discussion about what John Titor said, and do not include his postings, so I did not list those threads. The original thread "Parallel Universe" I could not find earlier today, but the link at MadIce's website is still good: (now here is the link here!)
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=9086&page=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

Funny how you can look through pages and pages of topic threads, and not find the ones you want to!
Also here is the thread "Parallel Universe" at the only place I can find it -- MadIce's website: Also the other thread there also!!!!
http://timetravelportal.com/viewtopic.php?t=550

You can also read about science here:
http://arxiv.org/

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Read about Ori's Nature Article here on this forum also, wherever it is!

Again, if links do not work, find those threads yourself. (Pay your fines and please be quiet then!)
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Oh, and don't forget the music about Titor's story (need fast connection until another site is listed on that pagej to download and that may be soon) and the twirling Titor's insignia patch (finish it and give it out to the kids).
No, this is separate because I am not going to go through all the links again to take out the first part which should be a different wording used before the link is given -- somehow or sometimes that does not work, since I give the direct links directly!@!!!!!

http://dimensionalcitizen.tripod.com/temporalrecon.html

But do not expect to time-travel with the twirling arm patch of Titor, since you may end up here again in this same Universe!!~
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Earthlings!!!
 
The one thing i find strange about the whole Titor story is that following the timeline from his birth he claims to become a soldier at the age of 13!!!
Now i know theres such a thing as conscription but 13 you have got to be kidding right.

The original quote for John was as follows-

I was born in 1998 so I do share some childhood memories with all of you. I remember going to Disney World at Christmas and I remember going to the beach in Daytona.
When the civil “conflict” started and got worse, people generally decided to either stay in the cities and lose most of their civil rights under the guise of security or leave the cities for more isolated and rural areas. Our home was searched once and the neighbor across the street was arrested for some unknown reason. That convinced my father to leave the city.

From the age of 8 to 12, we lived away from the cities and spent most of our time in a farm community with other families avoiding conflict with the federal police and national guard. By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back to what we had and the division between the “cities” and the “country” was well defined. My father made a living by putting together 12-volt electrical systems and sailing “commodities” up and down the coast of Florida. I spent most of my time helping him.

Outright open fighting was common by then and I joined a shotgun infantry unit in 2011. I served with the “Fighting Diamondbacks” for about 4 years. (Hearing in my right ear isn’t as good as I would like it). The civil war ended in 2015 when Russia attacked the U.S. cities (our enemy), China and Europe. As unusual and bad as my childhood might seem, I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

There 13 years old and a member of an Infantry Unit, am i the only one who disbelieves this fact??
 
Feedforward!

Choices are (maybe -?) very important!

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0506/0506027.pdf

In a nutshell, only worlds that are the same could one travel to in the Past (or perhaps time travel is not possible). The choices for the future are still probabilistic and choices and thoughts should leave free will open to whatever choice is made, but once it is made, then it may (will) become deterministic!

I do not know!
I do not write these papers!

Fuzzy Logic!
 
I agree, and I also believe that quantum physics agrees. The point at which a choice (or an observation) is made is what collapses the wave (probability) function.

RMT
 

I'd put money on your friend being Creedo.
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My lips are sealed on this sensitive matter!

RMT
 
I'll bite. Pamela always said she could verify who the real John Titor was because only he knew what song that only she and John knew about. What was the name of the song?
 
Ren' please give the exact web page reference and or a direct copy of what you are refering to?

New claims of JT being a hoax??
 
The point at which a choice (or an observation) is made is what collapses the wave (probability) function.
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Actually no. The wavefunction never collapses. All possible outcomes are realized. At least according to MWI.
 
MEM's back! Give up in the other thread, I see, eh?


Actually no. The wavefunction never collapses. All possible outcomes are realized. At least according to MWI.
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Actually, yes. I never said anything about the MWI. So don't tell me "no" until you know which interpretation of QM I am using as the basis for my argument. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif In fact, IHMO, I believe that a combination of the transactional interpretation and the "consciousness causing collapse" interpretations are likely the correct ones. Transactional interpretation views all phenomenon as interactions of standing waves (i.e. Milo Wolff's theory). And I do believe that the poster I was responding to was insinuating the "consciousness causes collapse" interpretation.

RMT
 
Rainman,

I agree, and I also believe that quantum physics agrees. The point at which a choice (or an observation) is made is what collapses the wave (probability) function.
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While the Copenhagen Interpretation might be the correct one we can't apply the wave collapse function to Titor's Saga.

In one of his very first posts Boomer had Titor state that "Everett Wheeler" (he didn't place a hyphen between the names which might be a typo or a clue about his knowledge of the theory) is the correct interpretation of QM. As you already know, Everett's "Relative State Formalism" was his attempt to describe how QM works without reference to an ad-hoc wave function collapse. In Everett's formalism there is no wave function collapse and observers play no special role in the process - as they both apply to Bohr-Heisenberg's "Copenhagen Interpretation."

But, on the other hand, even Titor eventually fell back into calling Everett-Wheeler the "Many Worlds Interpretation" (which is Bryce DeWitt and not Hugh Everett). /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
which is Bryce DeWitt and not Hugh Everett
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I thought DeWitt coined the term "mwi" but essentially was an advocate for Everett's interpretation of the description of the wavefunction and it's actualization of all possible outcomes versus a collapse and actualization of just one.
 
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