Time Travel Question?

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Ayre

Temporal Novice
If one were to travel in time from Earth to another point in time on Earth, do you think one would be able to locate the exact postition in time on Earth?

The reason I ask is because if one were to travel backward or forward in time, the Earth (moving at 750, 000 miles an hour in it's solar orbit) would not be at the same location in space from where you left. There is also the Earths rotation to consider. Would one not end up floating in space for even a short trip in time?

Are there any theories on this?
 
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First question, yes and what you need is a time frame memory analyzer.

This device measures sidereal positions, or can also measure chronotrons.

Please write and consult board member here, Transient 001?
 
I may be reading your question wrong...but I'll give it a shot anyway.

Re: the second question:

As you traveled through time, you would stay in essentially the same position that you started from. Just because you're traveling through time doesn't mean that gravity wouldn't keep you on Earth. Traveling though time doesn't affect the laws of physics related to gravity.

If would be the same as if you were just standing there doing nothing.
 
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Friend Ayre of EarthTR125.0121

The question you pose is quite an interesting one indeed. The notion that Earth, and the entirety of space for that matter, is moving accounts to the presumption that if one were to travel back or foward in time, objects in space might not be located exactly where we should expect them. Well, in my opinion there are two possible explanations to go over this untimely quadanry.

Time Travel actually involves much more than the physics that we currently understand. Remember when early physicians used to bleed people to take out from the body the contaminated fluids. Back then the various health sciences knew nothing about microbes or bacteriae. They did know about fluids such as blood, urine and mucus but could not go beyond that.

Physics is in much the same way. We have theorized one too many postulates about time, but we do not understand it in its entirety. Most do not even conceive that time is composed of particles that leave behind a trace in the structure of space-time, creating a sort of lattice or pattern. Our current quantic and newtonian physics do not provide for such a concept, they still have got to discover it, understand its hyperdimentional principles and them attempt to apply it. If these principles were known a traveller would simply find the suitable time frame and then phase into that temporal reality.

Another approach is that much in the same way that vehicles travel across the globe and then reaching their origin eventually without a problem, objects travel in time situated near or in a temporal singularity are retained as chrono-corpuscular temporal satellites around the event. This would simply imply that while we could travel in time we would retain our same position. We would be moving across time not space. Relativity would take then care of the rest. However, I would greatly recommend the utilization of the Prime Temporal Point as the origin for any chronal jaunt.

Until later becomes now.
 
Ayre,

If you actually had developed time travel in a really usable form this wouldn't be too difficult a problem.

Remember that you aren't traveling in space or time alone. You are traveling in 3d+1 space-time. Your target space-time coordinate would be in four dimensions. One would hope that your destination coordinate would be at a place and time where the Earth's surface was also present. And maybe you would also want to be specific enough with the destination coordinate so that it is a flat landmass and not inside a mountain or on the surface of an ocean.

I say "not too difficult" with a bit of tongue-in-cheek because being that specific is a truly difficult matter. But the math does work in so far as the 4d Cartesian coordinate is concerned. You would be aiming for a target that has an angular surface velocity of ~1,000 mph (among several other velocities as you have pointed out).

If you left "home" on June 1st and arrived on your destination Earth on December 1st you could end up crashing into the planet with a linear velocity of ~72,200mph in this direction (--->) while the Earth's Solar orbital velocity of ~ 72,200 mph is in this direction (<---) because the Earth has moved 180 degrees through it's Solar orbit and is traveling in the opposite direction as when you left. Total velocity ~144,400 mph. Ouch! (This assumes that your exit velocity is conserved - that you arrive with the same linear velocity as when you left.)

The time traveler would probably want to arrive somewhere out in space, do some breaking , get into orbit and find a soft place to land.

Another problem would be to pick the proper set of coordinates. Using the Sun or any part of the Solar System wouldn't be much help because the entire Milky Way galaxy is rotating. The entire Solar System will have moved.

Hmmm...what would be a good place to mark [x,y,z,] = 0 that won't move too much?

Ok - it's not so easy. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif You might have to make relatively small jumps, reset your coordinates and then make another jump if you want to use some local set of coordinates while making relatively large trips.

Hope this helps.
 
any cange in to the past create a new dimension ...the one who will try to cange it will be stuck there for the rest of his life ...going to the past it aint so dificult as it mai seem we could make a mind transfer to a beta wave sistem to our ego in the past ...i didn't solved all the equation but the mind is compost of full beta wave energy ...so you can do it with the speed of lite ...but i can garantee for the memory integrity ...
if you need more info ...just send me a mesage
 
Friend Dr Eric Drako of EarthTR125.0121

What you describe is somewhat similar to a television show plot that aired in the 1990´s, I believe it was called Quantum Leap. The problem with this theory is that while our bodies are on a third dimensional state, our own consciousness is not. I explain, our consciousness is "attached" to our physicality, but in no way belongs to that physical dimension. As a matter of fact it is found on a state of an eight dimensional state. Therefore while our bodies are on an ever moving to the future travel, our consciousness is not. It "is" on a state of past, present and future. Why do we not perceive these other states, because of our awareness. Our awareness is the mental tool which allows the interaction between consciousness and body. Thus it can only visit the past in memories, feel the present as we sense it and gaze at the future in our dreams.

Should we train our awareness to perceive beyond what we are normally used to, we would then begin to experience the myriad realities that are waiting out there.

In short, you can not put your awareness in your past or future body or anyone else´s because it would cause one of two effects. The first one is madness due to a quantum signature replication. These would put two awarenesses in one body. Not at all recommended.
The second effect, and most painful, is that of a temporal period sequential. This would make for the mishappen traveller alone to re-live the period of destination towards the origin period. The traveller would experience this temporal circling loops much in the same way that one would experience the effects of a in-loci rotating singularity. This would drive the traveller mad eventually, as he/she comes to the realization that there is no way out of the sequential.

However, I do think that what you were trying to say is that one can travel in time with our minds, well that is not time travel but timephasing. In this process you reach for the Prime Temporal Point and from them on, since you would already be sixteenth dimensional, you can experience the stream of temporal realities first hand.

Until later becomes now.
 
"Hmmm...what would be a good place to mark [x,y,z,] = 0 that won't move too much?"

The center of the galaxy. The Milky Way Galaxy is rotating, yes. So orient yourself to the axis of the rotation(i.e. the center of the galaxy).

I would use a space ship. Mark your distance relative to the center of the galaxy, locate the temporal coordinates, program them into your temporal jump device, and go.(Do it out in space, so you can get up to 88 mph-just kidding!)
 
The center of the galaxy. The Milky Way Galaxy is rotating, yes. So orient yourself to the axis of the rotation(i.e. the center of the galaxy).

That could still pose a problem, since it is believed that galaxies are rotating around the center of the universe, and for all we know the center of the universe is really just another sub part rotating and revolving around something else bigger than it. It would be very difficult to actually, pin point a location to send your self to. In any case it seems an astronaut suit would not be out of the question before attempting time travel.
 
Orient yourself to the center of the galaxy, and mark a point at which you wish to be when you arrive. Then, when you do, you will be there, even if the Milky Way Galaxy is moving. Fixing your position relative to the center will not be messed with by other movements because you are moving along with it. No, you won't be in the *exact* place from which you left, but you will be relative to everything around you.
 
"Then, when you do, you will be there, even if the Milky Way Galaxy is moving. Fixing your position relative to the center will not be messed with by other movements because you are moving along with it. No, you won't be in the *exact* place from which you left, but you will be relative to everything around you." Tempus
You are also moving with the Earth at the current time. So in that case you could orient yourself with the living room and arrive back to a relative position. You can not claim that one form of movement will change your results and not another. The principle is the same.
 
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