KerrTexas
Super Moderator
I don't know how many people here are familiar with Thoth, however, I find his story to be interesting when viewed as a possible candidate for a time traveler.
It is somewhat difficult to seperate the God-like attributes and dogma surrounding a possible real man, but as those tall-tales are filtered, an interesting picture emerges. Certainly, all within the realm of speculation, but one never really knows what truth's are hidden underneath the sands of time. <font color="white"> Sometimes these truths are right before us and we dont see them. [/COLOR]
A man such as Thoth certainly fits the criteria of a possible time traveler, or at least what qualities one would expect that a time traveling man would have in order to accomplish several feats.
Armed with scientific knowledge, he could set himself up as God-Like in ancient times. I refer to Thoth appearing during a particular time period, making himself known to ( in this instance ) a Pharaoh, then traveling to another point in time, and once again making himself known.
He would not have appeared to age, and this in itself would cause belief that the time traveler was indeed a God.
Thoth defined:
He was considered the heart and tongue of Ra as well as the means by which Ra's will was translated into speech.[3] He has also been likened to the Logos of Plato[3] and the mind of God.[4] (see The All) In the Egyptian mythology, he has played many vital and prominent roles, including being one of the two deities (the other being Ma'at) who stood on either side of Ra's boat.[5] He has further been involved in arbitration,[6] magic, writing, science,[7] and the judging of the dead.[8]
His roles in Egyptian mythology were many. Thoth served as a mediating power, especially between good and evil, making sure neither had a decisive victory over the other.[29] He also served as scribe of the gods,[30] credited with the invention of writing and alphabets (ie. hieroglyphs) themselves.[31] In the underworld, Duat, he appeared as an ape, A'an, the god of equilibrium, who reported when the scales weighing the deceased's heart against the feather, representing the principle of Ma'at, was exactly even.[32]
The ancient Egyptians regarded Thoth as One, self-begotten, and self-produced.[20] He was the master of both physical and moral (ie. Divine) law,[20] making proper use of Ma'at.[3] He is credited with making the calculations for the establishment of the heavens, stars, Earth,[33] and everything in them.[3] Compare this to how his feminine counterpart, Ma'at was the force which maintained the Universe.[34] He is said to direct the motions of the heavenly bodies. Without his words, the Egyptians believed, the gods would not exist.[35] His power was almost unlimited in the Underworld and rivaled that of Ra and Osiris.[20]
The Egyptians credited him as the author of all works of science, religion, philosophy, and magic.[36] The Greeks further declared him the inventor of astronomy, astrology, the science of numbers, mathematics, geometry, land surveying, medicine, botany, theology, civilized government, the alphabet, reading, writing, and oratory. They further claimed he was the true author of every work of every branch of knowledge, human and divine.[37]
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Other Myths surrounding Thoth:
Thoth has played a prominent role in many of the Egyptian myths. Displaying his role as arbitrator, he had overseen the three epic battles between good and evil. All three battles are fundamentally the same and belong to different periods. The first battle took place between Ra and Apep, the second between Heru-Bekhutet and Set, and the third between Horus, the son of Osiris, and Set. In each instance, the former god represented order while the latter represented chaos. If one god was seriously injured, Thoth would heal them to prevent either from overtaking the other.
<font color="white">Thoth also is reported to arrive every thousand years. [/COLOR]
Thoth was also prominent in the Osiris myth, being of great aid to Isis. After Isis gathered together the pieces of Osiris' dismembered body, he gave her the words to resurrect him so she could be impregnated and bring forth Horus. When Horus was slain, Thoth gave the formulae to resurrect him as well. Similar to God speaking the words to create the heavens and Earth in Judeo-Christian mythology, Thoth, being the god who always speaks the words that fulfill the wishes of Ra, spoke the words that created the heavens and Earth in Egyptian mythology.
This mythology also credits him with the creation of the 365 day calendar. Originally, according to the myth, the year was only 360 days long and Nut was sterile during these days, unable to bear children. Thoth gambled with Khonsu, the moon, for 1/72nd of its light (360/72 = 5), or 5 days, and won. During these 5 days, Nut gave birth to Kheru-ur (Horus the Elder, Face of Heaven), Osiris, Set, Isis, and Nepthys.
In the Ogdoad cosmogony myth, Thoth gave birth to Ra, Atum, Nefertum, and Khepri.
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"Thoth the god of [Egypt whose sacred city was Khemenu, also called Hermopolis by the Greeks after Thoth's alter-ego Hermes], who measured time, counted the days, numbered the months and recorded the years. Thoth commanded the mysterious forces of the universe; knowing the sounds, words and gestures by which these forces are put in motion, and not content with using them for his own benefit he also teaches his worshippers the art of employing them. Thoth formed no exception to this rule. He was the lord of the voice, master of words and books, possessor and inventor of those magic writings which nothing in heaven, on earth or in hades can withstand. He had discovered the incantations which evoke and control the gods; he had transcribed the texts and noted the melodies of these incantations; he recited them with that true intonation which renders them all powerful, and every one, whether god or man to whom he imparted them, and whose voice he made true became like himself the master of the universe. He had accomplished creation, not by a muscular effort to which the rest of the cosmogonical gods primarily owed their birth but by means of formulas or even of the voice alone, the first time when he awoke in the Nu. The articulate word and the voice were believed to be the most potent of the creative forces, not remaining immaterial on issuing from the lips, but condensing so to speak into tangible substances, into bodies which were themselves animated by creative life and energy"
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"...The ancient Egyptians had...worshipped Thoth as 'the personification of the mind of god', as 'the author of every work on every branch of knowledge, both human and divine', and as 'the inventory of astronomy and astrology, the science of numbers and mathematics, geometry and land surveying, medicine and botany."
"...Thoth, who had been seen by the Egyptians as the source of all their knowledge and science, had been credited with having caused a flood to punish humankind for wickedness. In this episode, related in Chapter CLXXV of the Book of the Dead, he had acted jointly with his counterpart Osiris. Both deities had subsequently ruled on earth after the human race had begun to flourish again."
- Graham Hancock, The Sign and the Seal
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Thoth, by way of the teaching of Sacred Geometry, is thought to be responsible for Akhenaten becoming king of Egypt.
Akhenaten is credited with creating the first "monotheistic" religion in Egypt, based on the Law of One.
Thoth is also supposed to have helped to build, or had a hand in building the Great Pyramid
<font color="white"> A sick Miss America is crowned [/COLOR]
Thoth, also is said to be responsible for the evacuation of inhabitants to other lands, namely, Egypt (Khem), the Himalayan regions of the world, and the Americas following at the time known as The Fracturing.
Thoth, initiated the reconstruction of the planetary grid of unity consciousness, through the creation of various Sacred Sites around the world.
Thoth also seems to have a hand in other major civilizations of ancient times, including the Greeks, Islam, and Christianity.
Thoth's qualities also led to him being identified by the Greeks with their closest matching god Hermes, with whom Thoth was eventually combined, as Hermes Trismegistus, also leading to the Greeks naming Thoth's cult centre as Hermopolis, meaning city of Hermes.
Anyone familiar with Hermetics knows how much the work may have impacted certain disciplines within ancient theology, philiosophy and science. Some of these still carried out to this day.
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If Thoth wished to prove his power...
"""In Egypt, deep under the sand in some places, large areas with green glass have been found. It was origionally thought that the glass came from perhaps a rather large meteor impacting there but later scientists decided due to the size of the hole created by the impact, a meteor of that size wouldn't have created enough heat to cause the sand to turn to green glass so far from the impact area. A nuclear weapon, however, would have done this. """
"""New York Herald Tribune on February 16, 1947:
When the first atomic bomb exploded in New Mexico, the desert sand turned to fused green glass."""
Thoth proving his power through the use of his scientific knowledge ? I would imagine that he would only need to do this once to have the ancient people elevate him to a God-like status, and extremely feared.
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To Rainman:
One of Thoth 's titles, "Three times Great" !
I am connecting this particular title of Thoth as a reference to all the posts written about your 3x Matrix theories. Perhaps, your theories much more than mere speculation, and put into practice by Time Traveler Thoth.
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Thoth certainly seems to be a busy guy ...and through the use of a time traveling device, could have carried out all these feats, and made quite an impact on any particular civilization he became involved with in the past.
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I also would like to submit for review...He may have been involved with civilizations existing on other continents as well.
Keeping in mind that he would have had knowledge of the future, knowing specific technologies would exist and when...he could build in references for future generations to discover, if not for himself.
The Bible Code was mentioned as being designed for civilizations having computers to use and retreive the encoded information. Something our time traveler Thoth would have known.
The simularities between the Eygptian and Mayan, Aztec Civlizations seemingly to canny to be coincidence. Another mystery created by the presence of our time traveling friend, Thoth ?
A schematic done of a major Mayan city resulted with an interesting result...and appears to possibly be a circuit board.
Perhaps, some aspects of the circuit board a bit beyond our current state of electronic understanding, but perhaps one day someone will understand what the components are and build it for what results we only can imagine.
And perhaps this circuit board is one of many others that exist infused into ancient civilizations by the Time Traveler Thoth.
Put together, who knows what kind of machine could be the constructed by putting all the pieces together? Possible that some portions would seem to be lost in time, buried under tons of sand and soil, however, Time Traveler Thoth would have known this and taken all such factors into account.
Another interesting aspect to this:
<font color="white"> Hello Rainman how are you today ? [/COLOR]
If a future scientist did indeed travel to the ancient past, and did become the "God" known as Thoth, and who knows how many other 'incarnations' within many ancient civilizations...if he died in ancient Eygpt or some other remote location in time, would he have (in thoery) have created a loop in time ?
Whether Thoth is alive today, as a babe in the crib, is certainly unknown, however, this man still has yet to exist, build his machine, and travel back to the ancient past. Yet, he has already perished long ago.
Thoth was seen as a god of wisdom, magic, and the measurement, and regulation, of events, and of time.
Whether or not Thoth was indeed a "real" time traveler or not, Thoth seems to fulfill the expectations I would have regarding a time traveling man.
<font color="white"> Wonder if remote viewers can see this? [/COLOR]
To borrow a quote from an esteemed friend here on TTI..." Truth IS stranger than fiction. "
It is somewhat difficult to seperate the God-like attributes and dogma surrounding a possible real man, but as those tall-tales are filtered, an interesting picture emerges. Certainly, all within the realm of speculation, but one never really knows what truth's are hidden underneath the sands of time. <font color="white"> Sometimes these truths are right before us and we dont see them. [/COLOR]
A man such as Thoth certainly fits the criteria of a possible time traveler, or at least what qualities one would expect that a time traveling man would have in order to accomplish several feats.
Armed with scientific knowledge, he could set himself up as God-Like in ancient times. I refer to Thoth appearing during a particular time period, making himself known to ( in this instance ) a Pharaoh, then traveling to another point in time, and once again making himself known.
He would not have appeared to age, and this in itself would cause belief that the time traveler was indeed a God.
Thoth defined:
He was considered the heart and tongue of Ra as well as the means by which Ra's will was translated into speech.[3] He has also been likened to the Logos of Plato[3] and the mind of God.[4] (see The All) In the Egyptian mythology, he has played many vital and prominent roles, including being one of the two deities (the other being Ma'at) who stood on either side of Ra's boat.[5] He has further been involved in arbitration,[6] magic, writing, science,[7] and the judging of the dead.[8]
His roles in Egyptian mythology were many. Thoth served as a mediating power, especially between good and evil, making sure neither had a decisive victory over the other.[29] He also served as scribe of the gods,[30] credited with the invention of writing and alphabets (ie. hieroglyphs) themselves.[31] In the underworld, Duat, he appeared as an ape, A'an, the god of equilibrium, who reported when the scales weighing the deceased's heart against the feather, representing the principle of Ma'at, was exactly even.[32]
The ancient Egyptians regarded Thoth as One, self-begotten, and self-produced.[20] He was the master of both physical and moral (ie. Divine) law,[20] making proper use of Ma'at.[3] He is credited with making the calculations for the establishment of the heavens, stars, Earth,[33] and everything in them.[3] Compare this to how his feminine counterpart, Ma'at was the force which maintained the Universe.[34] He is said to direct the motions of the heavenly bodies. Without his words, the Egyptians believed, the gods would not exist.[35] His power was almost unlimited in the Underworld and rivaled that of Ra and Osiris.[20]
The Egyptians credited him as the author of all works of science, religion, philosophy, and magic.[36] The Greeks further declared him the inventor of astronomy, astrology, the science of numbers, mathematics, geometry, land surveying, medicine, botany, theology, civilized government, the alphabet, reading, writing, and oratory. They further claimed he was the true author of every work of every branch of knowledge, human and divine.[37]
...............................
Other Myths surrounding Thoth:
Thoth has played a prominent role in many of the Egyptian myths. Displaying his role as arbitrator, he had overseen the three epic battles between good and evil. All three battles are fundamentally the same and belong to different periods. The first battle took place between Ra and Apep, the second between Heru-Bekhutet and Set, and the third between Horus, the son of Osiris, and Set. In each instance, the former god represented order while the latter represented chaos. If one god was seriously injured, Thoth would heal them to prevent either from overtaking the other.
<font color="white">Thoth also is reported to arrive every thousand years. [/COLOR]
Thoth was also prominent in the Osiris myth, being of great aid to Isis. After Isis gathered together the pieces of Osiris' dismembered body, he gave her the words to resurrect him so she could be impregnated and bring forth Horus. When Horus was slain, Thoth gave the formulae to resurrect him as well. Similar to God speaking the words to create the heavens and Earth in Judeo-Christian mythology, Thoth, being the god who always speaks the words that fulfill the wishes of Ra, spoke the words that created the heavens and Earth in Egyptian mythology.
This mythology also credits him with the creation of the 365 day calendar. Originally, according to the myth, the year was only 360 days long and Nut was sterile during these days, unable to bear children. Thoth gambled with Khonsu, the moon, for 1/72nd of its light (360/72 = 5), or 5 days, and won. During these 5 days, Nut gave birth to Kheru-ur (Horus the Elder, Face of Heaven), Osiris, Set, Isis, and Nepthys.
In the Ogdoad cosmogony myth, Thoth gave birth to Ra, Atum, Nefertum, and Khepri.
............................
"Thoth the god of [Egypt whose sacred city was Khemenu, also called Hermopolis by the Greeks after Thoth's alter-ego Hermes], who measured time, counted the days, numbered the months and recorded the years. Thoth commanded the mysterious forces of the universe; knowing the sounds, words and gestures by which these forces are put in motion, and not content with using them for his own benefit he also teaches his worshippers the art of employing them. Thoth formed no exception to this rule. He was the lord of the voice, master of words and books, possessor and inventor of those magic writings which nothing in heaven, on earth or in hades can withstand. He had discovered the incantations which evoke and control the gods; he had transcribed the texts and noted the melodies of these incantations; he recited them with that true intonation which renders them all powerful, and every one, whether god or man to whom he imparted them, and whose voice he made true became like himself the master of the universe. He had accomplished creation, not by a muscular effort to which the rest of the cosmogonical gods primarily owed their birth but by means of formulas or even of the voice alone, the first time when he awoke in the Nu. The articulate word and the voice were believed to be the most potent of the creative forces, not remaining immaterial on issuing from the lips, but condensing so to speak into tangible substances, into bodies which were themselves animated by creative life and energy"
............................
"...The ancient Egyptians had...worshipped Thoth as 'the personification of the mind of god', as 'the author of every work on every branch of knowledge, both human and divine', and as 'the inventory of astronomy and astrology, the science of numbers and mathematics, geometry and land surveying, medicine and botany."
"...Thoth, who had been seen by the Egyptians as the source of all their knowledge and science, had been credited with having caused a flood to punish humankind for wickedness. In this episode, related in Chapter CLXXV of the Book of the Dead, he had acted jointly with his counterpart Osiris. Both deities had subsequently ruled on earth after the human race had begun to flourish again."
- Graham Hancock, The Sign and the Seal
............................
Thoth, by way of the teaching of Sacred Geometry, is thought to be responsible for Akhenaten becoming king of Egypt.
Akhenaten is credited with creating the first "monotheistic" religion in Egypt, based on the Law of One.
Thoth is also supposed to have helped to build, or had a hand in building the Great Pyramid
<font color="white"> A sick Miss America is crowned [/COLOR]
Thoth, also is said to be responsible for the evacuation of inhabitants to other lands, namely, Egypt (Khem), the Himalayan regions of the world, and the Americas following at the time known as The Fracturing.
Thoth, initiated the reconstruction of the planetary grid of unity consciousness, through the creation of various Sacred Sites around the world.
Thoth also seems to have a hand in other major civilizations of ancient times, including the Greeks, Islam, and Christianity.
Thoth's qualities also led to him being identified by the Greeks with their closest matching god Hermes, with whom Thoth was eventually combined, as Hermes Trismegistus, also leading to the Greeks naming Thoth's cult centre as Hermopolis, meaning city of Hermes.
Anyone familiar with Hermetics knows how much the work may have impacted certain disciplines within ancient theology, philiosophy and science. Some of these still carried out to this day.
.........................
If Thoth wished to prove his power...
"""In Egypt, deep under the sand in some places, large areas with green glass have been found. It was origionally thought that the glass came from perhaps a rather large meteor impacting there but later scientists decided due to the size of the hole created by the impact, a meteor of that size wouldn't have created enough heat to cause the sand to turn to green glass so far from the impact area. A nuclear weapon, however, would have done this. """
"""New York Herald Tribune on February 16, 1947:
When the first atomic bomb exploded in New Mexico, the desert sand turned to fused green glass."""
Thoth proving his power through the use of his scientific knowledge ? I would imagine that he would only need to do this once to have the ancient people elevate him to a God-like status, and extremely feared.
.................................
To Rainman:
One of Thoth 's titles, "Three times Great" !
I am connecting this particular title of Thoth as a reference to all the posts written about your 3x Matrix theories. Perhaps, your theories much more than mere speculation, and put into practice by Time Traveler Thoth.
.................................
Thoth certainly seems to be a busy guy ...and through the use of a time traveling device, could have carried out all these feats, and made quite an impact on any particular civilization he became involved with in the past.
.................................
I also would like to submit for review...He may have been involved with civilizations existing on other continents as well.
Keeping in mind that he would have had knowledge of the future, knowing specific technologies would exist and when...he could build in references for future generations to discover, if not for himself.
The Bible Code was mentioned as being designed for civilizations having computers to use and retreive the encoded information. Something our time traveler Thoth would have known.
The simularities between the Eygptian and Mayan, Aztec Civlizations seemingly to canny to be coincidence. Another mystery created by the presence of our time traveling friend, Thoth ?
A schematic done of a major Mayan city resulted with an interesting result...and appears to possibly be a circuit board.
Perhaps, some aspects of the circuit board a bit beyond our current state of electronic understanding, but perhaps one day someone will understand what the components are and build it for what results we only can imagine.
And perhaps this circuit board is one of many others that exist infused into ancient civilizations by the Time Traveler Thoth.
Put together, who knows what kind of machine could be the constructed by putting all the pieces together? Possible that some portions would seem to be lost in time, buried under tons of sand and soil, however, Time Traveler Thoth would have known this and taken all such factors into account.
Another interesting aspect to this:
<font color="white"> Hello Rainman how are you today ? [/COLOR]
If a future scientist did indeed travel to the ancient past, and did become the "God" known as Thoth, and who knows how many other 'incarnations' within many ancient civilizations...if he died in ancient Eygpt or some other remote location in time, would he have (in thoery) have created a loop in time ?
Whether Thoth is alive today, as a babe in the crib, is certainly unknown, however, this man still has yet to exist, build his machine, and travel back to the ancient past. Yet, he has already perished long ago.
Thoth was seen as a god of wisdom, magic, and the measurement, and regulation, of events, and of time.
Whether or not Thoth was indeed a "real" time traveler or not, Thoth seems to fulfill the expectations I would have regarding a time traveling man.
<font color="white"> Wonder if remote viewers can see this? [/COLOR]
To borrow a quote from an esteemed friend here on TTI..." Truth IS stranger than fiction. "
