This place has become more annoying than useful!

RainmanTime

RainmanTime

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So now we have a colonel from the year 6000??? Well, I share a cube at work with a former colonel from the SAC B-52 squadron, and he is reading this claptrap wishing he could bomb you wackos out of your miseries!

This place is fast becoming a forum where attention whores show up to garner as much attention as they can from as many people as they can. No longer are the majority here concerned with real discussion of Time or time travel. Instead, we are all in debunking mode, or some of us are obsessed with fantasies such as vampires and Pleiadians.

It's all really pretty sickening to those of us who still hold to the tenets of REAL science.

Can't we all just grow up, just a little? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/frown.gif

RainmanTime
 
Really, you can easily percieve that these people are bluffing. The boy who called wolf. If we see a time traveler, we will say he's fake. Photo's are good, though.
 
Well, if he can't I can, give me a break, the stupidity coming from these time travellers is enough to debunk themselves. The John Titor threads were convincing enough to make you stop and wonder, but these people write these stories that are too stupid for science fiction and can't back up a word of it with anything that makes sense. I used to come here to read the different viewpoints on the science of these issues, not to read posts from some 14 year old kid who wants to be the next Titor phenomenon. Don't you guys have better things to do with your time like maybe do your homework? Trust me, it's not hard to see through the charade, you guys have no idea about anything you are talking about. If you have nothing intelligent to post, then go to another website because nobody buys into your time traveller crap. I would think a time traveller would be able to write in a more mature manner.
 
"This place is fast becoming a forum where attention whores show up to garner as much attention as they can from as many people as they can. No longer are the majority here concerned with real discussion of Time or time travel. Instead, we are all in debunking mode, or some of us are obsessed with fantasies such as vampires and Pleiadians."

I couldn't agree more and it's really annoying. However, there are a hand full of us that are actually interested in the science and discussion of time and time travel. we have to continue the serious discussions on this forum, and ignore the hoaxters, in our pursuit of understanding and solving the mystery of time.... it's just hard to find the good threads among the "I came from the year.." posts. Can't our new moderator, and fellow enthusiast, cut down on the number of those posts?
 
Creedo,

I do not consider the stories of time travel on this site, as exhibited by chronoAttentionSeeker and the likes, to be worthy variables.. and neither are 90% or your posts... but your schizophrenic dialect *is* entertaining at best.
 
Damn!!!! I thought I found the beginning of a thread of inteligents that wanted to just discuss the one thing all of our fingers googled."time travel" and then it happened. An interuption from the other side. An out of body, out of mind, time traveler, counceling on "a profit is never accepted in his own home town". Come on Credo, let it go man!
 
I do not consider the stories of time travel on this site, as exhibited by chronoAttentionSeeker and the likes, to be worthy variables
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Agreed.

And let me point out something to people like Chrono, Gilmore, and even you, Creedo, when you go off on your Star Trek (et. al.) fantasy loops: Awhile back we asked Raul to set up SPECIFIC forums for discussions of time travel stories and fantasies. THAT is the forum where such discussions belong that do not adhere to the basic premises of scientific investigation. I would also submit that it is also the area of this forum where discussions of vampires and Pleidians belongs, since the vast majority of scientific evidence tells us these beings are not yet shown to be real.

Here's something that is really interesting: NONE of these so-called "time travelers" have even attempted to challenge the more scientific discussions of Time and how humans perceive it that some of us have been engaged in. For instance, why doesn't Chrono come into our Time Particle or Massive SpaceTime threads and tell us "you are all wrong"? I would submit that this is because those of us in these discussions are using ESTABLISHED science as the basis from which we postulate how that established science can be extended to explain other aspects of Time and the potential for Time Travel. These "time travelers" limit themselves to telling us ONLY what things are like in the future, because no one can practically (scientifically) refute what has yet to come.

The one time Chrono did try to delve into existing science (the Fission vs. Fusion issue) look how terribly he failed in exhibiting any basic knowledge of science! That, in itself, exposes them as the hoaxers they are... for think of this: A man from 200 years ago would no NOTHING about about the structure of the atom as being electrons, protons, and neutrons. One would not expect a person from that time to know such things. However, it is such basic, fundamental knowledge in our time, that if someone from our time were to travel 200 years in our past, for them to NOT know these basics would be unheard of. For them to NOT understand the even more primitive science of 200 years ago would be utterly laughable. Now apply this to Chrono and his situation: Most people of reasonable education in our time know that fission was discovered in the early 30s, and that fission is what powers nuclear reactors of today. Certainly ANYONE who has received a university degree knows this.... and yet Chrono, an alleged historian from 500 years hence, did not know this simple fact!

And this is not even addressing his atrocious use of language and VERY poor recollection of historical events, both of which would not be acceptable in the profession of historians, now or in the future.

I rest my case,
RainmanTime
 
Rainman, I agree that Chrono should know way more about basics, and Fission/Fusion? I mean the words explain themselves, how could you confuse the two? Fissure, Fuse - they both have very explicit, and opposite, meanings. I do appreciate his doggedness tho'! He absolutely refuses to give up the game!

I don't actually mind Creedo, even in his less lucid times. He has some intelligent observations sometimes that I enjoy reading. Although I think he is too willing to believe many things!

I agree however that these more esoteric threads should be kept separate from threads based on speculation that starts from current scientific thinking; these are more useful for developing ones ideas about the possibilites of time travel, and the more general understanding of gravity and space/time.
 
I was thinking. Would it be a good idea to create a seperate space for people who claim to be timetravelers? Just like the fan ficton section? I'd have to check with Raul if this is possible in the first place, but I think it might be good for the board. Perhaps it's also a good idea to put a set of guidelines for the forum in a seperate thread (just like "The topic of conversation here is...").

Roel
 
Roel,

I think that's a good idea. If one can not be created maybe there's a way that we can encourage those that enjoy the fictional threads to post them on the fan fiction section. As the moderator, is there any way for you to just move those threads over to that section? Speaking for myself, The increase in fictional threads has become very annoying. I get a laugh from those threads every now and then but I wish this section consisted of more scientific conversations. Either way, I still enjoy reading this board as it promotes creative thinking.
 
Thank you, Roel. I was just getting ready to post under the "Ban Chronospam-whatshisname" thread, but I will post my plea here.

Would it be a good idea to create a seperate space for people who claim to be timetravelers?
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Not a bad idea. And please place it under the "Fantasy" section of the forum listings!

Look...some people say that what Chrono is doing is "harmless". Perhaps so, but perhaps not. Harmless to what? If we want THIS forum to be about serious discussions of time travel and requisite science needed to achieve it, then I'd say Chrono is doing damage with such tripe as:

There is no gravity in a vacuum (space).
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I'll credit trollface with continually cutting him down on such nonsense, but at what point do we just say "no more...go to the fantasy boards"? I'll be the first to admit rambling off-topic (as myself and trollface recently did in the "Friendly Warning" thread). But this thread did not drag on and on for 10s of pages of length, now did it? And this thread did not have ridiculous, anti-scientific statements in it, did it?

It is silly enough some of the crap that Chrono posts, especially when trollface airs the dirty laundry. But the damaging part is that he continues to post and refuses to give up his childish game. Think about new people coming here looking for serious discussion, with literate or even semi-literate people (neither of which Chrono fits into)... do you think they will be apt to stay after reading a few pages of Chrono's BS?

RainmanTime
 
Think about new people coming here looking for serious discussion, with literate or even semi-literate people (neither of which Chrono fits into)... do you think they will be apt to stay after reading a few pages of Chrono's BS?
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Excellent point Ray. He really does do more harm than good. For the most part I have kept silent regarding his posts as not to seem like I'm trying to spoil the fun but there's really nothing to gain from his posts or his ridiculous story. Posts such as his should be resticted to the fantasy portion of the board.
 
I have a ground breaking theory to present but before I do….How do we know we are supposed to be doing this…And furthermore who is to be responsible enough with such power. The danger of such a power would rival that of nuclear technology tenfold. Everything with a use has an abuse. One time terrorist or one perfectly human action prompted by poor judgment could cause devestating repurcussions that we may not have considered with our assumptive theories. Time travel may be the real threat..not nuclear holacost. Perhaps we should be asking God’s permission. God has all the answers. Whether an intellect believes in god or not he must answer to his primary instincts…that of survival. If you know how to do something it doesn’t mean you should. For example, preventing Jesus’s death would be interfering with one of God’s purposes. God would undoubtedly have a concern with such intervention...As well as any other biblical continuum interventions for any faith for that matter….Snatch the apple from Eve and we may never be born…Faith prompted Noah’s heart to listen for instruction for the Ark’s production…it was not built for him. God trusted Noah with the ark…If he didn’t build it would the Human race have survived? Who can god trust with this technology which would rival all others? Consider that all that man discovers points to gods power…only certain things that man discovers..man should use. The below link is to a lamen term theory a 4 year old can grasp that paraphrases the more complex existing knowledge while presenting new perspectives the science communities have yet to realize. There is more to present…please email a request for the remainder of the theory.
http://www.crownj.cjb.net
 
God would undoubtedly have a concern with such intervention...As well as any other biblical continuum interventions for any faith for that matter….Snatch the apple from Eve and we may never be born…Faith prompted Noah’s heart to listen for instruction for the Ark’s production…it was not built for him. God trusted Noah with the ark…If he didn’t build it would the Human race have survived? Who can god trust with this technology which would rival all others?
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Crown, your post is a little off topic for this thread but everything you said is stated under the assumption that a "God" does exist, which up to this point is just as debatable as time travel itself. I agree that time travel could have devistating consequnces but I disagree that some "god" will be sitting somewhere shaking his head at the notion. Lets assume for a sec that your "god" does exist. Then it's fair to assume that he created us to be the free thinkers that we are. Thus, god would be responsible for any time travel discoveries that we make. I mean, come on.. if there's such an entity that can get a virgin pregnant and flood the entire world.. then I *have* to think that he could stop anything from taking place on earth. I hate to argue this point and do not mean to insult you or your beliefs as I respect all beliefs that are positive. However, I find it very amussing that the same people that believe in god are the same people that would consider time travel to be pure science fiction. It's my opinion that the concept of god is just as fictional, if not more so.
 
No longer are the majority here concerned with real discussion of Time or time travel. Instead, we are all in debunking mode
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I agree. I guess that is why I haven't been visiting or posting lately. When I do visit, it is just to see if there is a new thread.

It was nice a few months back - even a few weeks back to see people discussing the John Titor story and his predictions. I enjoyed the discussions on the Olympics, Patriot Act, etc.

Now seems that all anyone is doing is trying to trip up chronohistorian. Chrono calls us "stupid," makes us feel small, and spews out garbage. Then everyone goes balistic, quoting him, debunking him. Chrono has "infilitrated" all the threads (he stays on topic) - but then the threads are lost with more debunking.

I'm not a MOD, and I don't have an answer to this problem. Would banning Chrono solve it? I'm beginning to wonder that would solve anything. There would still be the die hard debunkers that would continue to banter in the threads about chrono.

I just hope something is done soon. I really liked things the way they used to be. This is just my opinion here - I don't even there is a majority of people that agree with me.
 
I a prime example of what I was talking about is located in the thread titled "My First Post" by Razimus. Chrono was the first to reply, then the debunkfest began. I noticed that this poster has been here since 5/7 and has only made 4 posts. Was he/she chased away because of all of this? If so, there may be others.

Take a look at "Ban Chronospamhistorian." It's supposed to be a poll of whether we should ban him or not. It has now turned into free speach/anti-war rallies along with another attempt to debunk him!

Chrono is like a weed in a flower garden. The weed spreads and spreads until it literally chokes out the flowers. You try to slow the growth down with chemicals, but it just keeps coming back. Sometimes you have to just yank the weed, and put it in the burn pile in order to save the flower garden.

If you don't yank this weed, you might as well retitle this board "Chrono's Debunking Time Travel Institute"
 
Hmmmmm?

The Titor laser pixels check out as possably being real.

A five hundred supposed year advanced humans comes back to this time and places himself infront of the boob tube.

Ahh..?How does this relate?
 
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