The future should be set at any given time

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James Anthony

Temporal Novice
Ok listen to this. I don't believe in random actions or anything like that. If you take two molecules which collide in given situation and they fly off at a, I don't know, 105 degrees angle. Then if that same same condition was supplied the molecules would behave in exactly the same way. Of course it would be impossible to recreate the same conditions because even if one electron is out of place the whole experiment is invalid. So the only time that this experiment can be repeated is the exact moment that it occurred.
Think about it this way if you had the ability to keep watching the same event in the past over and over again the result would always be the same, 105 degrees. Therefore it would be logical to assume that every interactions between molecules can be mapped out by taking every single aspect into account. And isn't everything molecules?
Therefore The entire future is mapped out for us.
Of course then things get real messy if someone solves this and sets about creating their own destiny which is why the future can only exist at one given moment.
 
This seems to be leaning more towards Chaos theory than random action theories... Just because two molecules bounce a certain way only once doesn't mean that the future is predetermined, does it? To me, the whole thing could mean that life is a random series of events... nevermind, I can't go further into this without getting philosophical or metaphorical...
 
There are no two molecules, or two particles of any kind identical in every way. Also the particles themselves are in a constant state of change. Study the Matrionic Vortex Atomic Therom.

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<This message has been edited by The Doctor (edited 14 November 1999).>
 
I'm sorry if I didn't make myself totally clear but it was late and I was tired. I was refering to Chaos Theory but I'm not up on all the lingo, so I didn't mention it for fear of being shunned. I'll try to explain my scenario better ok?
These two molecules which collide, I never said they were identical, I'm just saying that should we have a device for viewing past events over and over again then the result of the collision would be the same every time(as you can see I'm not a great believer in parrallel universes). Now, a few units of discretly tiny measurements of time before the interaction of the molecules the then future result would be the same as what we registered as happening.
I hope you are still following because it is difficult to explain. So now all life is controlled by complex chemical reactions with in complex beings, eg. us humans, these reactions cause us to think and to act and give us the impression of free will when in actual fact if we repeated the experiment of the molecules watching ourselves over and over again then we would see ourselves repeating the same things over and over again. So if the past is set then why can't the future be?
 
One could argue that the future is set. I have made such an argument before to my friends who are Christians. I have presented the fact that theoretically if there is supposed to be any one predestined event in the future (end of world, return of messiah, whatever that event might be.) then any events that would prevent that predestined event from taking place would need to be controlled. Further any events that would affect those events would also need to be controlled. Such a theory could argue that all events that have ever taken place or ever will take place are already set in stone.
If I understand what you are saying then that works upon similar lines.

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I understand that you're saying person A discovered a time machine and person A time travelled and changed past events, also to remember that it took time to travel so rather than there existing a different past and future there will exist a change of past in the future and that there is/this is because there exists only one "events path". People from person A's "presnt" will notice a change of "environment" around them once person A has changed past events.
Some Christians actually believe that the future is mapped out and that although God didn't create the earth with his own two hands he sustains it and the universe and time.
 
I understand that you're saying person A discovered a time machine and person A time travelled and changed past events, also to remember that it took time to travel so rather than there existing a different past and future there will exist a change of past in the future and that there is/this is because there exists only one "events path". People from person A's "presnt" will notice a change of "environment" around them once person A has changed past events.
Some Christians actually believe that the future is mapped out and that although God didn't create the earth with his own two hands he sustains it and the universe and time.
 
Or maybe we are just like the first record being recorded upon. First there was nothing, then we start moving down the path of time. We could look on the record and see the past grooves and we can see the present grooves. But then you look forward and nothing has been recorded. Time just might be traveling at the same speed as we live in the present. Then you wouldn't have to worry about the future at all, because future time wouldn't even exist.
 
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