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Re: Shape of the Universe
I find this very interesting. Perhaps you would like to read my MS. "The Great Void..." which is my theory of everything. The links are posted in "Real Science."
Your perception is actually very impressive. Another overview of the universe that comes to mind is that of P.D. Ouspensky who saw it as a beautiful flower--a lotus-- filled with life, light, and activity. It had an expression similar to the smoke ring model of the atom: the petals emerged from the center, spread outward, and disappeared beneath (to be recycled).One thinks of an O-ring rolled down a cylinder.
Were the vision even more complete, a voice told him, it would be Brahma[n] Himself.
I find this very interesting. Perhaps you would like to read my MS. "The Great Void..." which is my theory of everything. The links are posted in "Real Science."
Your perception is actually very impressive. Another overview of the universe that comes to mind is that of P.D. Ouspensky who saw it as a beautiful flower--a lotus-- filled with life, light, and activity. It had an expression similar to the smoke ring model of the atom: the petals emerged from the center, spread outward, and disappeared beneath (to be recycled).One thinks of an O-ring rolled down a cylinder.
Were the vision even more complete, a voice told him, it would be Brahma[n] Himself.
reactor1967
Quantum Scribe
Re: Shape of the Universe
Well you know I stoped trying to judge people a while back. I still judge from time to time but I try to make that for only special situations. I will stick to time travel with a super computer. What we do have in common is the universe is a big place and the other thing is it may not be the only universe there is. There could be an infinity of universes. And, universes are complex. They go into many dimensions. Who is to say that one persons reality is wrong. Who really knows. Good luck to you.
Well you know I stoped trying to judge people a while back. I still judge from time to time but I try to make that for only special situations. I will stick to time travel with a super computer. What we do have in common is the universe is a big place and the other thing is it may not be the only universe there is. There could be an infinity of universes. And, universes are complex. They go into many dimensions. Who is to say that one persons reality is wrong. Who really knows. Good luck to you.
Darby
Epochal Historian
Re: Shape of the Universe
wolf,
True. A circle is even more simple: a line of infinite length enclosing a space of finite area. Take it to 3 dimensions and you have a globe where a circumference is a line of infinite length, the surface is of finite area and the enclosed space is of finite volume.
wolf,
True. A circle is even more simple: a line of infinite length enclosing a space of finite area. Take it to 3 dimensions and you have a globe where a circumference is a line of infinite length, the surface is of finite area and the enclosed space is of finite volume.
Packerbacker
Quantum Scribe
Re: Shape of the Universe
We might use the model of an expanding and contracting sphere to illustrate four-dimensionality. But rather than a material object, let's consider it as a pure wave motion. All times in our approach are cyclical, specifically, simple harmonic motion, or SHM.
If all four vibrations are in phase with one another, one can imagine a spherical wave which increases to a certain size, slows, stops, and then decreases once again. This wave doesn't spread out indefinitely-- it attains a certain size in the positive time of its' cycle,and then contracts when its time becomes negative (an expansion in negative time is equivalent to a contraction in positive time). All four dimensions are undergoing a vibration of the same frequency, but with a phase displacement relative to one another. Hence, it encloses, or contains, itself.
If the vibration were very, very, fast (and it is), and could we see it from our dimension of time, it might appear as a bubble. An Oriental might be inclined to say, perhaps, a pearl.
The universe of our conception, then, is a vast field of closely packed self-enclosed waves of minimum size and maximum frequency. This field is much too dense for a physical object to move through, and furthermore does not have overall, universal, dimensions of space and time.
The phenomenal universe is created by a self-enclosed wave of the lowest frequency and maximum size, which we call the Brahman wave, whose vibrations sweep out across the minima of the field creating interference effects. The discontinuous nature of the field breaks up these vibrations into gauge pulses. We conceive that these gauge pulses entirely define the physical universe.
As we have said, this is pure wave motion, so the S.E.W. is something of a bubble, whose size is always proportional to its rate of vibration. The gauge rule applies. So we have an eternal wave which doesn't go anywhere, but which has the characteristics of a particle.
Much like my description of a self-enclosed wave in the cited work above:
We might use the model of an expanding and contracting sphere to illustrate four-dimensionality. But rather than a material object, let's consider it as a pure wave motion. All times in our approach are cyclical, specifically, simple harmonic motion, or SHM.
If all four vibrations are in phase with one another, one can imagine a spherical wave which increases to a certain size, slows, stops, and then decreases once again. This wave doesn't spread out indefinitely-- it attains a certain size in the positive time of its' cycle,and then contracts when its time becomes negative (an expansion in negative time is equivalent to a contraction in positive time). All four dimensions are undergoing a vibration of the same frequency, but with a phase displacement relative to one another. Hence, it encloses, or contains, itself.
If the vibration were very, very, fast (and it is), and could we see it from our dimension of time, it might appear as a bubble. An Oriental might be inclined to say, perhaps, a pearl.
The universe of our conception, then, is a vast field of closely packed self-enclosed waves of minimum size and maximum frequency. This field is much too dense for a physical object to move through, and furthermore does not have overall, universal, dimensions of space and time.
The phenomenal universe is created by a self-enclosed wave of the lowest frequency and maximum size, which we call the Brahman wave, whose vibrations sweep out across the minima of the field creating interference effects. The discontinuous nature of the field breaks up these vibrations into gauge pulses. We conceive that these gauge pulses entirely define the physical universe.
As we have said, this is pure wave motion, so the S.E.W. is something of a bubble, whose size is always proportional to its rate of vibration. The gauge rule applies. So we have an eternal wave which doesn't go anywhere, but which has the characteristics of a particle.
Darby
Epochal Historian
Re: Shape of the Universe
Ah. Nix the circle but keep the sphere. The surface of a sphere can be described as a continuous one dimensional line forming a series of concentric circles descending from one pole toward the opposite pole is of infinite length, never intersects itself, forms a curved surface of finite area and encloses a finite volume of space.
Ah. Nix the circle but keep the sphere. The surface of a sphere can be described as a continuous one dimensional line forming a series of concentric circles descending from one pole toward the opposite pole is of infinite length, never intersects itself, forms a curved surface of finite area and encloses a finite volume of space.
Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
Shape of the universe?
In how many dimensions?
1D is kind of pointless, we can convert just about anything to 2D, I take it you're speaking of 3rd? Beyond that, that's kind of vague without outlining some theories to base it on.
(Finite, infinite, etc, etc).
In how many dimensions?
1D is kind of pointless, we can convert just about anything to 2D, I take it you're speaking of 3rd? Beyond that, that's kind of vague without outlining some theories to base it on.
(Finite, infinite, etc, etc).