Reconsidering Time Travel: What If Time Isn't Recorded?

[Ivylaine]

Has anyone proposed the theory that the reason time travel hasn't been discovered is that there is nowhere to travel to? We often conceptualize time as if it were a VHS tape—where events are "recorded," and the idea is that you could move back and forth along the tape. But what if time isn't "recorded" in this way? What if events happen, we store them in memory, but once they pass, they no longer exist?

 

[Classicalfan626]

I disagree with the assumption that time travel hasn't been discovered yet. On the contrary, I think that time travel has long since been discovered, and it was used during ancient times, and in more recent years since at least the 1940s. I strongly believe the notion that time travel hasn't been discovered is utter bullshit.

I personally think that most of what was taught to us in the mainstream and public schools is disinformation and lies.

Thus, I can't agree with that theory.

 

[Jared Thompson PhD]

Everything we know about the physical universe suggests that our individual, intuitive, concept of causality is very poor and that events are tied together inextricably across what we call "time." It is easier and more consistent to think of all reality as a "crystal," a lattice of cells where events and their effects are linked together in every way, to the point where "cause" and "effect" are so difficult to tell apart, they are hardly separated by any logical basis at all.
This is a better explanation for our "mystical" and transmundane experiences than almost any other.

 

[Darby]

I disagree with the assumption that time travel hasn't been discovered yet. On the contrary, I think that time travel has long since been discovered, and it was used during ancient times, and in more recent years since at least the 1940s. I strongly believe the notion that time travel hasn't been discovered is utter bullshit.

I personally think that most of what was taught to us in the mainstream and public schools is disinformation and lies.

Thus, I can't agree with that theory.

Though what Ivy stated is an opinion, not a theory, it does conform with current scientific theory. There's simply no scientific theory, even hypothetical, that supports time travel to the past. Sure, there's well educated speculation from some real physicists but they don't offer actual science based hypotheses that can be tested and confirmed/refuted.

The contrarian argument is there is a vast conspiracy among those in the academia to lie about and keep secret the fact that time travel exists. It might sound good on paper but on examination, taking into consideration the full implications of time travel to the past, they don't stand up. I've said it before and no one ever seems to want to take up the challenge, "they" conspire to keep what a secret? If time travel to the past is invented to keep it secret you have to literally keep it a secret forever. If the secret is leaked just one time over the course of "forever" it is no longer a secret. The information will find itself in the past - everywhere in the past. "Forever" is a fricking long time for information to leak into and permeate the past. There would be no perspective in time where one would not know about the "secret" of time travel. No one would even consider trying to keep it a secret. Actual secrets tend to remain so, even without time travel, for months to several years - maybe a decade or two. Our WWII nuclear secrets remained so for a few months at most. There is some evidence indicating they remained secrets for a few days. That's a long way from forever.

If one is going to talk about time travel and its effects then they have to blow off all their notions of classical cause and effect. Then they can take a long, hard, factual look at the implications and compare and contrast that with the world they actually live in.

 

[Darby]

Here's an example of where we have to blow off all our notions of classical cause and effect.

We want to prevent WWII in Europe and all of the death and destruction. We assume, and in our thought experiment it is true, that the "No Hitler" scenario will prevent WWII in Europe.

To carry out the "No Hitler" scenario we start planning our intercept in 2020. In 2024 we send a time traveler to January 1889 to eliminate Alois Hitler and Maria Schicklgruber Hitler who is pregnant due to give birth in April. Those two are Adolph Hitler's father and mother. The mission is a success.

If the mission was a success in 1889 thus Adolph Hitler never existed, why did we send a time traveler to 1889 to eliminate Alois and Maria Hitler? In 2020 when we started the project there would be no reference to Adolph Hitler anywhere in the historical record, he was never a WWI veteran, he didn't overthrow the Weimar Republic, there was no NAZI Party, he never became Chancellor - there was nothing that would cause us to eliminate Alois and Maria.

If there is the same historical record of Adolph Hitler of which we are familiar how can we say the mission was a success? The record speaks for itself.

Given that our assumption there was no WWII in Europe if the mission is a success how is it that all of us exist? If we prevent the 50+ million European Theater deaths of WWII then the world population of 2020-2024 would be entirely different than the population we currently perceive. Most of us would not exist because the Boomer Generation never existed - the generation of our parents and/or grand parents. There would be 50+ million more persons in the world of 1946 to pair off and have children that never existed in the history we know.