Real life catches up with Star Trek "Phazer Weapon

Time02112

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Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Real life catches up with Star Trek "Phazer Weapon
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Real life catches up with Star Trek "Phazer Weapon"
HSV Technologies Inc., of San Diego, California is developing a non-lethal weapon that uses ultraviolet laser beams to harmlessly immobilize people and animals at a distance. The Phaser-like device uses two beams of UV radiation to ionize paths in the air along which electrical current is conducted to and from the target. In effect, the beams create wires through the atmosphere wherever they are pointed.

The current within these beams is a close replication of the neuro-electric impulses that control skeletal muscles. It is imperceptible to the target person because it differs from his own neural impulses only in that its repetition rate is sufficiently rapid to tetanize muscle tissue. (Tetanization is the stimulation of muscle fibers at a frequency which merges their individual contractions into a single sustained contraction.)

No retinal damage can occur because the cornea absorbs all ultraviolet radiation at the wavelengths used. Moreover, the beams are too weak to produce photokeratitis (corneal inflammation) unless they are directed at the eyes for several minutes. In addition, the current they transmit is insufficient to affect the smooth muscles such as the heart and diaphragm.
See Ocular Safety of the Tetanizing Beam Weapon

Our electrical beam weapon has a far longer potential range than its nearest competitor, the wire-based Taser ® .

Successful proof-of-principle tests have been performed at the University of California at San Diego, and further refinements using novel laser designs are forthcoming.

Although the smallest laser now available for this application is the size of a carry-on suitcase, a hand-held version should become feasible with only modest advances in laser technology.

Also under development is an engine-disabling variation for use against the electronic ignitions of automobiles. The engine-disabling version should be able to operate with off-the-shelf lasers because it would be carried aboard police patrol cars.

See US Patent #5675103 Real life catches up with Star Trek "Phazer Weapon
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hsvt.org

Real life catches up with Star Trek "Phazer Weapon"
HSV Technologies Inc., of San Diego, California is developing a non-lethal weapon that uses ultraviolet laser beams to harmlessly immobilize people and animals at a distance. The Phaser-like device uses two beams of UV radiation to ionize paths in the air along which electrical current is conducted to and from the target. In effect, the beams create wires through the atmosphere wherever they are pointed.

The current within these beams is a close replication of the neuro-electric impulses that control skeletal muscles. It is imperceptible to the target person because it differs from his own neural impulses only in that its repetition rate is sufficiently rapid to tetanize muscle tissue. (Tetanization is the stimulation of muscle fibers at a frequency which merges their individual contractions into a single sustained contraction.)

No retinal damage can occur because the cornea absorbs all ultraviolet radiation at the wavelengths used. Moreover, the beams are too weak to produce photokeratitis (corneal inflammation) unless they are directed at the eyes for several minutes. In addition, the current they transmit is insufficient to affect the smooth muscles such as the heart and diaphragm.
See Ocular Safety of the Tetanizing Beam Weapon

Our electrical beam weapon has a far longer potential range than its nearest competitor, the wire-based Taser ® .

Successful proof-of-principle tests have been performed at the University of California at San Diego, and further refinements using novel laser designs are forthcoming.

Although the smallest laser now available for this application is the size of a carry-on suitcase, a hand-held version should become feasible with only modest advances in laser technology.

Also under development is an engine-disabling variation for use against the electronic ignitions of automobiles. The engine-disabling version should be able to operate with off-the-shelf lasers because it would be carried aboard police patrol cars.

See US Patent #5675103

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RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

When the criminals get a hold of that engine-stopping device, they will disable our cars on a deserted road and....
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

.....we will have weopons ready in our car.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

They will anticipate that you are armed and they will proceed accordingly.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

I had the idea for the UV based phasor awhile ago (Right after I learned of the ionizing of the air property) but I didn't have the money to get ahold of even the most basic parts.

And a guy can kill you and steal your car now, wether you have a phasor or not.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Here's a little more insight on the finer details of "Parametric Amplication"
http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~dietrich/opa.html

quote:]

Optical parametric amplification (OPA) is used to produce tunable short pulses for pump and probe beams. The pump beam is the output of a regenerative amplifier system with pulse energies of 0.5 mJ and durations of 150 fs at 800 nm. In a first step, a small part of the beam (Pump 1) generates white light continuum. A small part of the spectrum at the desired wavelength is then amplified in two stages of the OPA. The pulse duration of the signal is approx. 50 fs, the overall efficiency approx. 12%. (DM = dichroitic mirror)

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RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Whoever you are Time02112, I want to thank you for the links above. Especially the first one.

I participate in another message board where this will be of interest to many there.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Notime -

"They will anticipate that you are armed and they will proceed accordingly."

At their own risk I assure you.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Jerod: I understand your point of view but I don't think most people want to have to be armed when they go for a drive. Technology has its pros and cons. They will stop your car with that device, do what they want to do and then add your gun to their collection.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

There's some devices on the market now that can stop cars, or worse. It usually involves an electro magnetic pulse. It doesn't take a criminal mastermind to figure out how to make money with it, and I'm surprised that they all aren't using them. (Thankfully surprised)
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

NoTime, it swings both ways.

If THEY can get one, so can I.

Besides, according to the article, the one that stops cars is different technology than the one that "zaps" people. THEY aren't going to get me and my car at the same time.

For me, if you're going to hypothesize this scenario in the first place, make sure that my being armed likewise is in your scenario. Other wise your scenario is one in which we all might as well lay down and roll over since all is lost. We are forever hereafter at the mercy of individuals who posess these devices. Sorry, I for one choose NOT to be so. And WILL do something about it.

No mention is made in the article of how it might be possible to "shield" oneself from the effects of this device. Considering it's technology, I'd have to guess something as simple as a tinfoil vest (or something similar) or lead glass in your car might do the trick as a countermeasure to the neural device.

If we can't come up with something, then I might as well just run out into the street, invite all thieves to come help themselves, check into a manastary for the rest ofmy life and forget ever working toword the pleasures of a modicum of material wealth.

Er, ah, I don't think so. Not for me. If your scenario ever becomes a reality, rest assured I WILL fight back. By whatever means necessary.

<grin>
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

If they release this technology to the public it would probably be like buying a gun. A waiting period and things like that.

This doesn't prevent anyone from getting it who doesn't want one though. But really, I don't think it would matter. A thief could just as easily stop your car by blowing out the tires with a gun, or just forcing you out of the car.

Sure, you could bullet proof your car, but how many normal people actually go through these lengths? I think the same will be true when the phasor becomes available. Most people probably aren't going to shield their cars or wear vests.

And besides, I think the Phasor will be more expensive than a gun, so the thief will probably opt for it. I mean, would you be more likely to give up your car to a guy who could shoot and kill you, or to a guy who will just 'stun' you. Sure, he could kill you afterwards, but a gun would be much more efficient to the criminal on the go.

I for one can't wait to buy a phasor so I can modify it. Think of all the experiments you could do with one...
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Barbie: You bring up some good points.

I doubt that such a device would be made avaible to the public. And only law abiding citizens would have a waiting period and have to register the device. Criminals would get them by other means. Also, the use of such a device would leave no evidence to follow (no bullets, no bullet holes, no noise, etc.).

Aside from the violent aspect, the device could cause serious traffic accidents, on purpose or unententionally.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Barbie:

You are right on.

I could not have said it better myself.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

NoTime:

Geeze guy. No offense intended here but, shucks, we've already had THAT problem for about 200 years now.

There is nothing stopping a truly focused (and malicious) individual from simply laying in the woods by any Freeway/Highway in America (or anywhere else on the Planet Earth for that matter), with a circa 1890 Winchester and doing EXACTLY the same thing you describe above.

In Bosnia, they do!

In Arizona, they don't!

Why?

Because no matter what technology emerges in society as a whole, "We The People" still have the means to resist.

IF we have the fortitude to do so.

Besides, (as Barbie has so eloquently pointed out above), the technology ITSELF opens doors to further opportunities that in itself result in beneficial aspects for mankind.

Imagine using this device to temporarly stun endangerd species of the world to keep track of their population records. Instead of subjecting them to drug "darts" that are, at best, undetermined as to the correct dosage for harmless intervention.

Barbie is about as "correct" as I can see on this issue.

And concise as well.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

NoTime:

P.S. - Thank you for bringing the issue up the the first place tho.

Your point is well taken.
 
RE: Real life catches up with Star Trek \"Phazer Weapon

Time, The devices you discribe were available to some people in 1987 if you had the bucks and the ability to assemble it yourself,along with laser guns and pain field generaters. If I knew you guys then I'd have a house full of this stuff because I can't assemble a childs toy muchless a laser gun. It's all who you know. Like I said before on another thread, the public is 30 years behind exhisting technology.
 
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