Re: I am from your future. -Relocated-

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recall15

Dimensional Traveler
What do you want to know about the past? I just traveled to witness New Year 2008, and will soon be departing for another time.
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Is the past for some of ours....

but what do you think about this:
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I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.

The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.

All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.

I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.

If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.

All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.

For the last time I say may God help us all... but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please...!

I could have written to you using another name but I am not afraid of anything any more. When you know certain things, you become invincible and no harm can come to you when you know that the end is soon.

I assure you 100% that things will happen. There are four years to prepare for the endgame. Get weapons, and make survival groups, and a place where you can be safe with food for a time.

Ask me anything and I will answer as much as I know about the Norwegian connection to all this. And just look around: they are building underground bases and bunkers everywhere. Open your eyes, people. Ask the governments what they are building, and they will say “Oh, it’s just storage for food”, and so on. They blind you with all the lies.

The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds.

Remember that those who are going to be in and around the city areas in 2012 are those that are going to be hit first and die first. Later the army will purge the rest of the survivors and they have a shoot to kill order if there is any resistance to bring them into the camps where every one will get marked with a number and a tag.

I also see that Benazir Bhutto is spoken of on your site. Her death was tragic. I have met Benazir, as you can see. You will also see from the photographs that I have met with a number of other notable politicians and world leaders.

The public will not know what happens till the very end, because the government does not want to create mass panic. Everything will happen quietly and the government will just disappear.

But I say this: don't go quietly into the night. Take precautions to be safe with your family. Come together with others. Work together to find ways to solve all the many problems you will face.

Kind regards

[Name and proof of identity supplied]

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A letter from a Norwegian politician :D
 
Planet X has been coming ever since the first version of the book came out -- in the mid-seventies of like 1970's! No one seems to be able to find it though!

All of this time travelling always just seems to be another "Brick in the Wall!

Pink Floyd album!
 
A little bit about the album and movie of a Dad that never comes back from a War~!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7021797.stm

also at Wikipedia and other places if doing a search for Pink Floyd's band album and later made into a VHS movie

"Another Brick in the Wall"

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In a sense, everyone suffers in this day and age I guess somewhat emotionally if you do not pick yourself up and go on despite this world.
 
I will not "claim" anything here.

The Mayans showed that the 5th and final era of mankind will come to an end Dec21, 2012. I do not believe this to be the end of humankind, but rather the marker in time when the human race changes and starts a new course of interstellar existance. Like teh passing from childhood to adulthood.

To my best knowledge, I believe that many will perish, but will not be an extintion of our race. To some, it will resemble Judgement Day, the comming of teh Mardhi, and many prophesized events. There will be some war (there always is these days) and some nukes may go off, but not in the way described in MAD (mutual assured destruction) scenarios.

There will most likely be a series of events such as teh following....2008 will see a step away from global markets and a step back towards homeland events/issues. Teh stock market will enjoy a sharp rise in spring 2008 ending in summer 2008. The global financial markets start to fail in mid summer, when Isreal gets its hands dirty. By end of september 2008, global markets sell foriegn assests (the sale of chinas US interests is what will ultimately crash the US markets) All global markets will be affected. By the end of 2008, the political process in this country will be stable, yet on the brink of chaos. After a resenting shift in power in early 2009, "the corporate wars" will break out. Riots will ensue and certain areas of teh great USA will become under martial law. The media will be government controled and after a few months, the martial law and civil disobediance will clash. The country will be in what you can call a multifactioned civil war starting in late spring 2009.

I know, this is grim, and it gets worse, but the means is just the way to justify teh end.

By summer 2009, two goverment factions of miltary, smaller private (owned by corporations), and civilian rebel forces will be at odds with each other. For teh most part, people will not have issues with these militarized forces. The average people will be dealing mostly with each other, as theft and crime will go unchecked. It will be everyman for himself for a while. This will occur on a global scale. Some countries like russia will actually fare better during this time, because there will be limited factions veing for power and resources.

Things settle down by winter 2010, however that is short lived. Around summer 2010, the first of two astronomical events happens. This first event involves space rocks travelling at 20,000 MPH to encounter earth. Some metiors will strike the earth, the largest will wipe out areas the size of large metropolis', causing volcanic action ot the earths surface and major earthquakes. None hitting the earth will cause extinction type events, but one large rock will skim the earths atmosphere, taking some it with it into deep space. Have suncreen handy, you'll need it if you are going to work outdoors. Again, things settle down... for a while.

The second astro-event has to do with finial solar cycle of the fith era of man. On Dec. 21st (or around that day, as althoughthe mayans were accurate with their calculations, our interpetation of thier calcs has a amrgin of error of up to 4-5 days) the sun will erupt a solar flare so large that it will set off a chain of events that will both alter the landscpe of our planet and teh evolution of its species. The flare will "flash-fry" 1/2 the surface of teh earth. Mainly the Pacific Ocean. This will cause numerous outcomes....including the reversal of the suns magnetic poles

1. the ionizsphere will weaken severly
2. the vapour content of the trophosphere will increase, causing increadible hurricanes that will wash teh earth
3. and then... the surprise. (I have to leave something to your imaginations)
 
Time Travel? bllaaaahhhh..

You're already changing the course of mankind by saying these things on the world wide web...

The true course of mankind does not exist in our minds as of yet. Of course there is a hidden intelligence on this planet. What kind of hidden intelligence? one does not know until it starts showing its face in time of tribulations.

All these doomsayers have been saying these things for a thousand years. Why would you say it then? you want these things to happen just to show that your ego is correct in these predictions?

Its like when you're fishing at a lake somewhere.. you said to yourself that you will get a big fish, but ended up with only one small fish, the catch of the day. Isnt that a surprise coming for you?

Well I got a prediction...

My prediction is simple. I predict that something that we havent even thought of yet, will happen.
 
don't confuse a mayan and a mexican. And don't base your views of teh mayans on a mel gibson movie of thier collapse. Unfortuenatly, the mayan culture was disolved in teh 1500's. Whats left is only what was carved in stone. Their calander was based on solar cycles, revolutions of earth, and moon phases. They also had 5 day units of time and epochs (this being teh fith) which is about 600,000 days. The mayans knew how many light years certain stars were from earth and built sturctures (Teotehuican pyramids) that proved that knowledge. They did this all before King george and teh pope came up our present day calanders that so inaccuarate, that every 4 years we need to add a leap day just to keep the earth revolution on scheduel...and even that is not exact, as every 100 years you'd also have to skip a leap day, but a few leap seconds. ANyways, the mayans knew more than you know and to confuse them with a modernday mexican is pure ignorance.

Where do you think the date of 2012 originated from in all of modern day prophecy?

In the 1970's was the first time I heard about the mayan hyroglyphs being cracked. It was applyied to the calanders and thus discovered they has 5 epochs of man. The last one, to end on dec21 2012. Later, in the 1990's, doing my own research, I found out that mayan scripture was written on the inside of coffin lids, but in mirror image, as if you were inside teh coffin looking out through its lid. I applied this to the pyramid layout at the avenue of teh dead and it matched exactly the projected star map above in teh sky. The sun pyramid was built in 8 AD. The star Sirrus is 8 light years away. The moon pyramid was built in 4DA, Rigel is 4 ly away. This can be translated to almost 50 excavated pyramids in teh surrounding area.

A modern day mexican could not have done this. A 2000 year old mayan can!
 
Im very skeptical to the words of a cryptologist, or the person who worked on the mayan calendar. Some people think that the mayan's "Dec 21st 2012" is nothing more than a sham at the words of the person who "decrypted" the mayan language.

I know a lot about the Mayans regarding 2012 /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

start reading it here:

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

Another thing, when a civilization ended with a mark on their "calendars", does not necessarily mean the "end" or "something doomsday", people like me think the Mayans ended it with that date just to stop any further star analysis. It might not be intended just to stop on Dec 21st 2012 or so, and people get all paranoid and hyped up over this, which may mean nothing.
 
like I said pro7, i will not "claim" anything, as I don't want to spend the next 2 months defending myself of explaining things. You state you know of a hidden "intelligence". I assume thats based on faith, as what you speak of is not what you think it is, as evident in your description.

As for my ego, this is an anonymous board. I gain no fame, no fortune, and no respect from what I say being true in times to come or false.

What will happen is like a hard days work. Your tired before you even start, your sore all day, but when the sun sets, you've earned a good meal, some time with your family, and good nights sleep.

I wrote that to educate those on this board, as those here are free thinkers. My advice is buy into the stock market now, if you can. Sell this summer. and immeadiatley buy tangeble items such as property/land, guns, food, fuel of all kinds, etc. And when teh time comes, be ready to raid a store or two to stock up on medicines, ammunition, and canned goods. Buy insulation and make sure your home is insulated well. Buy a wood stove, as they are the easiest and safest method of containing an open flame in your home for long periods of time. Buy a few old cars without all the sensitive electronic widgets needed to make it operate. Have some bikes on hand. Have some .99 cent packages of seeds around. Read about how to make water filtration systems, how to dig a well, and how not to contaminate it. Buy a solar panel and an analog short wave radio. Buy a hand generator or learn how to make one from any motor. This is my advice.
 
Well..

to be prepared for something unexpected... that would be nice. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am not that worried. I already imagined myself doing these things to survive. Thats the issue, people who imagined themselves surviving in a cataclasmic era, you can bet they will rely more on weapons than of food and other items.

It all depends on who you are, how you are "built and trained". Those who live in the cities are going to be extremely focused on weapons, meanwhile those who live in the mountains and away from any contact of cities, will probably focus more than what they need of guns. Again, thats just a point of view, anything is possible.
 
don't confuse a mayan and a mexican. And don't base your views of teh mayans on a mel gibson movie of thier collapse. Unfortuenatly, the mayan culture was disolved in teh 1500's. Whats left is only what was carved in stone.
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Of course you don't confuse Mayan for Aztec (Nahuatl) - assuming that by "Mexican" you actually mean Mejica. Also don't confuse them for Mixtec or Zapotec. That's four "extinct" Mexican cultures that aren't.

Take a trip to Chiapas, Zapatecas and Tobasco. Spend some time in "Mundo Maya" or go to Guatamala. You might be surprised to encounter several thousand Mayans, Mixtecas or Zapatecas who might disagree with the assertion that "what's left is only what was carved in stone".

You might find it strange thet they all still use their ancient calendars at times and don't really need Internet "experts" to tell them what it all means. Somehow they have this feeling that they've been at it for a couple of hours longer than the Internet experts and might have a better clue about how to interpret their own religious beliefs and calendars without any New Age "foreign aid."


They don't, BTW, expect the world to come crashing to a hault in four years.
 
p7, the website you linked to is interesting, but I think its leaving out some things and therefore justifying a scientific explanation. If the 2012 is simply an end date to stop star calcs, then why was the start date 3000 years before the mayans made the calander for use?

There is also the fact or coincidence that 2012 is also a solar maximum and the suns poles always flip at eh solar max and the earth field is overdue for a flip.

And the surprise that happens has and is already happening to some, but like the snap of pole reversal, the majority of people won;t know it until it happens for all. You will be enlightened.
 
Darby, the world will certainly not come crashing to halt. I hope you did not get that from what I said, as that was not my intention.

Teh current mayan council has started to warn people of what is coming and their message is something like "embrace your brothers and focus on survival and family". They also say that there will be 3-4 days of darkness and that will the point when everyone on earth knows something is up.

the main problems will be in big cities, after the fuel lines and power grid goes out. You will have millions of people all trying to survive on little resources. The water sources will get contaminated quickly. Transportation will mainly be by foot after the few weeks and then the outskirts of the major cities will see an imigration flux that will destroy the land.

In time, the populus will spread out to a comfortable level and the cities will be like the wild west. Lawless. Rural life will be much teh same as it is now.

It will be one of those times in history when great people will be fortuneate to be alive.
 
"p7, the website you linked to is interesting, but I think its leaving out some things and therefore justifying a scientific explanation. If the 2012 is simply an end date to stop star calcs, then why was the start date 3000 years before the mayans made the calander for use?"

The answer to this question could be simple. The person who first made the mayan calendar, could have been a astronomy research historian. In my work field of research and development, I would have to refer into the past to dig up information before acting on a decision to build or design a hypothesis scenario of various things required.

The Mayans were of course a violent people but yet were devoted into studying the heavens, tracing all information to assist their astrological signs from their home-made gods. This was important to them because it made their human sacrifices more efficient to its people's support. 3000 years as a 'start date' could be the reason to provide the calendar to support these kinds of violent actions.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the mayan calendar was used but not directly in these human sacrifices. A certain date would come up, detailing how many numbers of people were to be sacrificed to appease their gods. Otherwords, the mayan calendar discovered is actually a religious icon. They could have also worshipped that very calendar as a god, since it has a picture of a god in the middle of it. The skull despicted is the god Tonatiuh. Claimed to be the god of the 5th sun.

This is why it was believed that blood had to be given to appease that kind of a god. Otherwise using the mayan calendar to foretell the doomsday for the Dec 21st-22nd 2012 date is a religious act by doomsayers. Even though I know that people talking about this, do not realize that it is a act of religion in this form being effected by the mayans to have a "end date".

IF something does happen on those dates, then the mayan religion factor will be considered true. I can only imagine people diverting away from other religions to focus on the ancient mayan religion. If this comes to a pass, then we will have a world full of legitimate, premediated murder to be considered as a act of LAW or a god's will. Take a good look at christianity, didn't "jesus" had to give his blood? It is the same basic principle, and yet we still have murder in this world all because of this person giving his blood as a sacrifice for all.

History does not state anything about what happened after christianity was established. One can only believe or imagine there was a lot of murder going on right after this occurred, and in over time, the lawlessness faded out, only yet we do still have legitimate murder in this world, but not as much as it used to be. There are insane differences between legitimate and illegitimate premediated murder. (i.e. war)

We did have some nasty "solar storms" recently and is continuous. When the star in this solar system reverses its polarity, I do not know much about that specific issue, but I do have a feeling that this reversal will indeed have some effect, but not as damaging as what some people believe.
 
John gave us some hints on what would happen in 2012 by mentioning 'Rea Sea and Egyptians' (Dec 2000). It seems he was talking about the same thing.
 
The Mayans showed that the 5th and final era of mankind will come to an end Dec21, 2012. I do not believe this to be the end of humankind, but rather the marker in time when the human race changes and starts a new course of interstellar existance. Like teh passing from childhood to adulthood.
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some videos regarding The Mayas
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You're already changing the course of mankind by saying these things on the world wide web...
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you may see this

A video interview with Duncan O'Finioan

Duncan O’Finioan was the Ultimate Warrior... brainwashed, conditioned and controlled as part of a highly classified MKULTRA program called PROJECT TALENT. From a thousand others trained as child warriors in 1966, he is now, he believes, only one of 20 left alive to tell the story.

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Well..

in regards to "opening the red sea", yea it would be the earth's polarity being reversed, not the sun. If that is so, then we will have noah's deluge once again! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Those who have google earth software, take a good long look at Greenland. You will notice something very odd. Its almost like a spacecraft being sitting there for thousands of years or something else which is 45 miles long. Hmm.. a glitch? I dont think so. However Greenland should be close to the magnetic north (isnt it?) ... and something in greenland might have something to do with it. hmmmmm...
 
well, you may find the info on rense regarding greenland

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The mysterious object is located in the country of Greenland, which even today is melting at an incredible rate. We will look at this mysterious Greenland Object someone has found on Google Earth, which also has at least one spooky-music youtube video [1] describing it. Polar North is indicated in all images. The youtube video shows what can happen when image data falls into the hands of someone without an understanding of satellite imaging problems, and who may not look for rational explanations.

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Fig. 4 - Closer view of the mysterious black object in Fig. 1. What we see here is a total absence of any image in this area. Perhaps data was missing from the original image mosaic.

There are many reasons for the black rectangle in Fig. 4 including operator error during image alignment, satellite data dropouts, computer file processing errors, censoring, etc... Data for any satellite image travels a VERY long journey from the time the image data reaches Earth to Google Earth's image database. However, it's highly unlikely the black rectangle itself is an actual object. Though various articles and videos on the web focus more on the larger color rectangular object (see Fig. 1.) the absence of any image area here is actually more intriguing. If similar black rectangles do not appear on other Google Earth images and in this image of Greendland, then perhaps something was actually found here we are not supposed to see.

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