Notes on the C2CAM show w/ Williams

Razimus

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I finally signed up to streamlink so I was able to listen to the October 8th C2CAM show again, I already heard the two shows live but I didn't pay close attention to them. C2CAMdotCom doesn't have the August 6th show in their archives anymore so I wasn't able to listen to that one again, but here are some notes I took from the October 8th Coast to Coast AM with George Noory show with Oliver Williams as the guest.

Near the beginning of the interview Oliver Williams praises John Titor, he says John Titor: never insulted anyone, never flamed anyone, and was very cool. He obviously likes Titor if not loves him, then he says many people from the start were trying to: debunk and discredit him.

How can you discredit someone who has no credibility? Williams was praising Titor throughout the entire show and he defended Titor as if Titor was his best friend.

I didn't transcribe the entire show, there was too much repetitive useless info but I did transcribe a few things.

GEORGE NOORY: Is John Titor from the year 2036?

WILLIAMS: That is correct.

(Apparently Williams either believes Titor is a time traveler or he's pretending to believe)

When describing the dimensions of the time machine Williams says it's, "about a couple meters across, half of a meter high and a half meter deep" Can you get more specific than that?

Then he mentions a guy interviewed that worked for IBM back in the day who supposedly confirmed the IBM 5100 did have unpublished secret features, Williams says that he told him only about 100 people could have known about it in 2000, the name of this IBM guy is: Bob Dupkie or Dubkee, I don't know how it's spelled.

GEORGE NOORY MENTIONS THE INTERNET OF THE FUTURE..

OLIVER WILLIAMS: Yeah he-he Again this is four years ago when nobody paid any attention to it. He specifically said that the, and maybe this is a no brainer but I don't know, That the internet was gonna be organized around self powered nodes that would be atop things like telephone polls and they would be you know roughly half a mile apart or whatnot. and that that's how the internet would work in the future and we have some new stories up there now where they use almost the exact words he describes about self powered nodes that the internet would travel on and that's how they would get them to rural areas in the United States.

Yep Oliver, this was a no brainer and was well known amongst many nerds in 2000 and earlier, in fact a few cities already had them set up and they were in operation, it only became commercial and wide spread later as the big companies began using the idea.

Williams made the comment: John's mother is out there, if she calls in I'd like to talk to her too.

(Williams believes John's mom is out there? hehe)

Williams says: People had more pride in being human. He was talking about how Titor thought of the people in 2036, did Titor ever mention this? If not it sounds as though Williams agrees with Titor's ideology, as if he thinks you were better at 'being human' if you didn't live in the city.

GEORGE NOORY: What do you do in the future, Oliver, what's on your plate?

OLIVER WILLIAMS: Me, I'll just keep working on the website. If somebody is able to debunk the story, you know definitively prove what this machine is or something major happens I will be the first one to post it on my site and say great story, so far not not yet.

GEORGE NOORY: Do you take emails from people?

OLIVER WILLIAMS: Oh Absolutely, Umm.. There's a, There's a web, there's an address on the website I think it's john, what is the address? Is it johntitordotcom? yea if you go to the website there's a address there that you can send emails.

At this point Williams sounds like a puppet, as if the website isn't even his, he forgets the address, after hesitating and stuttering he turns to someone and asks them, "what's the address? is it johntitordotcom?", obviously the person behind the website isn't Williams, but is some unknown person, probably the author of the JT book, maybe the man known as JT himself, I wouldn't be surprised if the real webmaster asked Williams to go on the show, they are probably so paranoid about remaining anonymous that they didn't even want their voice on the radio.

--- Razimus
 
Yea I got streamlink too recently to listen to that show. I remember laughing at the part where he couldn't remember his own website. It's possible someone was talking in his ear and he just messed up his sentance. If russia didnt get someone to rebuild our communications infrastructure I'd bet we'd be forced to use internet over a cell phone, the G3 1 mbit technology.

I listened to a lot more c2cam after that. I felt some of themes in Titor's story appeared frequently in the show. Either they have been affected by the story quite a bit and tend to focus on Titor's themes a lot now, or they have always been doing shows like that and the author was a faithfull c2cam listener. One of the guest he had on recently had some really "good hit rates" on his predictions and they sort of align with Titor's themes. I wanted to get his newsletter buts it's too expensive.

One thing I heard really bugged me. The show was talking about getting a chip implanted in order to be able to buy things. I think they somehow tied to Bush's and getting rid of sales tax (*cough*) or something. One caller on a recent show said his mom had an implant in her head. He asked the c2c guest that night - if he an implant, would he get it removed. The c2c guest said yes, if he had one, he would want to get it removed. It was pretty scary. The guy sounded like he would do anything the c2c show said. So I guess all the listers gasped at the thought of this crazy guy off to remove his mom's implant. I hope that was an planned call, meant to be dramatic and entertaining and that it was not genuine advice.
 
I think they somehow tied to Bush's and getting rid of sales tax (*cough*) or something.

Hey, if it meant never having to pay sales tax again, I'd let them put an implant up my a__! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Seriously, though, I actually think it is the concept of income tax that needs to go away. Too many loopholes in the giant tax law. Either make income tax a flat percentage for EVERYONE (no bottom cutoff), or get rid of it altogether and insitute nothing but a federal sales tax. At least that way, in either case, the government's revenue is DIRECTLY tied to either the success of the citizen, or their spending habits. Either way, if the economy is good enough such that people are making money and/or spending it, the government does well. If not, the government loses dough.

That's the world that us citizens live in. There should be NO guarantee of a specific level of government income at all. Make them work for it just like we work for it!

RMT
 
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