N. Korean missile tests.

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We now know that N. Korea did test multiple missiles, bet there is much we do not know. I ask you guys to speculate on what you think made the missiles fail, was it US intervention? Internal sabotage? or was it just broken technology. Also what do you think the impact of this will be on the world?
 
We now know that N. Korea did test multiple missiles, bet there is much we do not know. I ask you guys to speculate on what you think made the missiles fail, was it US intervention? Internal sabotage? or was it just broken technology. Also what do you think the impact of this will be on the world?
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Making a missile work is hard. I know about this stuff.
The longer the missile has to go, under controlled flight, the harder it is to succeed.
The odds are their tech is low enough that it just failed.
But if we (USA) did have a means to eff with it, we certainly did.
Impact on the world? That's for North Korea to figure out.
They can't imagine that the majority of the Free World thinks they did a great thing.
And do they think we will stop our eavesdropping intel flights around their country by launching these missiles?
Fat chance.
Hypothetical: China tries to force USA to act against N Korea (their sacrificial lamb) to justify their own move on Taiwan. One of many scenarios, I am sure.
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Something like RMT or something...
 
If the tests failed due to US intervention, most assuredly the US government would make this known. They would make it known as a message to everyone that we have this ability. They would tout it as a success of an inflated military budget, and use this as a rationale to maintain the status quo when it comes to US military spending.

Most likely, it's just because making a rocket is hard.
 
If the tests failed due to US intervention, most assuredly the US government would make this known.
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I don't think it is always so cut-and-dried. When posturing mixes with intel and counterintel, sometimes the exact opposite response of what you would expect is the order of the day. One can certainly make a strategic case for keeping any capability the US had to mess with the missiles under wraps for a more critical moment. Allowing your brash foe to think they are making progress, while holding an ace card up your sleeve, is an old, well-applied ploy.
They would make it known as a message to everyone that we have this ability.
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As a person with a security clearance, I can assure you that we have abilities that are not made known to anyone. Again, strategic advantage to keeping quiet about what you've got has yielded benefits throughout the years.
They would tout it as a success of an inflated military budget, and use this as a rationale to maintain the status quo when it comes to US military spending.
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They don't need such an excuse. We are at war, fod God's sake. That is more than enough reason to keep military spending at its current level. And the definition of an "inflated" military budget could be different for different folks. What is the annual budget percentage spent on military programs vs. Health & Human Services programs?

Serious RMT, for a change.
 
Ray, what kind of security clearance do you have?

Are the systems you are talking about based on the ground, in the air, or in space or a combination. We know about land base missile intercepting missiles, and we know about airborne lasers. So this leads me to speculate you are talking about a sophisticated combination, or a space based weapons platform. There was also speculation that they rushed the shuttle up on the day of the launches because it had some "Special Cargo" that was used to take out the missiles.

One interesting idea for missile defense is to have ground base lasers shoot up at a satelite which reflects the beam and hits the missile.
 
N. Korea is working with China. There are several reasons why they did what they did.

And, they also wanted to know if we would bomb them with disperal bombs of laughing gas, to make them all feel better over there, and help them back out again.
 
Hi Fletch,
Ray, what kind of security clearance do you have?
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Secret.
Are the systems you are talking about based on the ground, in the air, or in space or a combination. We know about land base missile intercepting missiles, and we know about airborne lasers. So this leads me to speculate you are talking about a sophisticated combination, or a space based weapons platform. There was also speculation that they rushed the shuttle up on the day of the launches because it had some "Special Cargo" that was used to take out the missiles.
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I cannot comment on any such speculation other than to say that we certainly have a level of capability greater than anything you have seen released to the media. But that is a fairly easy thing to understand and one that few would argue with anyway.


Further to this topic, one should not make the mistake of thinking we are going to allow our ally in Japan to go undefended against any provocative or aggressive actions from North Korea.

RMT
 
The scary thing is how unpredictable (read: bat-sh*t insane) Kim Jong-il is.

Also Ahmadinejad.
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Yes. And when you consider this with regard to the people who compare George Bush to Hitler, or claim he and his administration are "facist", such accusations look pretty foolish.

If there is any comparison between George Bush and a historical figure, it should be Winston Churchill. He was also called a "war monger" and was also scoffed at by his own parliament... but in the end he was on the right side, had the right idea, and if only his country would have listened to him sooner, they might not have suffered as much as they did in WW II.

RMT
 
Similarities between George Bush and:

Hitler: They were both democratically elected leaders of a country.
Saddam: They were both leaders of a country.
Bin Laden: They were both leaders of something.

Take that, anti-American t-shirts.
 
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