Morality of TT

Skip1967

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I have to ask this question to see where it leads as it's an important one to myself. I ask you all this IF you were capable or stumbled upon the means to travel time would you inform anyone?

I'm only asking this hypothetically and make no claims of my own. Does the morality issues or the damage that can be potentially be done justify the notification of any government or public body in the current state of affairs.

I wonder if it would be locked away or used recklessly by the public? Either way it doesn't bear well for the creators conscious of such a device as it should never be sanctioned for use until such a time as reason catches up with technology.

But that's my opinion, what are your thoughts?
 
Let's suppose that sometime in the future a time machine is invented.

(a) Is there any reason that the (a) government, i.e., the military, etc. would soon have this technology under wraps and black? The only possibility I can think of is if it was made by a lone inventor.

(b) Bear in mind that we are products of the past. Presumably, if someone could change the past they might send history off in a different direction.

(c) Isn't this an excellent reason that whatever government controlled the technology would not want any alteration of the past time line? Its' main goal would be to protect itself.

(d) Consequently, would not such a government use time travel to police the past to see that no one made an alteration to the past.

(e) the lone inventor might never grow up to invent a time machine because the preservers of the way of things could see that he would, and they would go even further back in time to put cyanide in his baby formula--or something.

(f) In other words, the last society in which a time machine was invented would be able to control the whole ball of wax.






Of course, any society that developed such a device might also try to control the future. And maybe they would to keep the future TT's from traveling back in time to put cyanide in their baby formula.
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Morality of TT [re: ]
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I have to ask this question to see where it leads as it's an important one to myself. I ask you all this IF you were capable or stumbled upon the means to travel time would you inform anyone?

I'm only asking this hypothetically and make no claims of my own. Does the morality issues or the damage that can be potentially be done justify the notification of any government or public body in the current state of affairs.

I wonder if it would be locked away or used recklessly by the public? Either way it doesn't bear well for the creators conscious of such a device as it should never be sanctioned for use until such a time as reason catches up with technology.

But that's my opinion, what are your thoughts?

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Re: Morality of TT [re: Skip1967]
05/09/09 09:32 AM (69.179.90.130) Edit Reply



Let's suppose that sometime in the future a time machine is invented.

(a) Is there any reason that the (a) government, i.e., the military, etc. would soon have this technology under wraps and black? The only possibility I can think of is if it was made by a lone inventor.

(b) Bear in mind that we are products of the past. Presumably, if someone could change the past they might send history off in a different direction.

(c) Isn't this an excellent reason that whatever government controlled the technology would not want any alteration of the past time line? Its' main goal would be to protect itself.

(d) Consequently, would not such a government use time travel to police the past to see that no one made an alteration to the past.

(e) the lone inventor might never grow up to invent a time machine because the preservers of the way of things could see that he would, and they would go even further back in time to put cyanide in his baby formula--or something.

(f) In other words, the last society in which a time machine was invented would be able to control the whole ball of wax.






Of course, any society that developed such a device might also try to control the future. And maybe they would to keep the future TT's from traveling back in time to put cyanide in their baby formula.



Edited by Packerbacker (05/09/09 09:41 AM)

Time travel itself has a lot of problems that make the actual time travel objective a mute issue for the very reasons its effects seem to cancle out any reason why one would do it. For one the act of actually knowing the future now changes the future so that the future is now a alternate time line different from the one the time traveler came from. So now the future will be different with different outcomes. Unless the time traveler is indifferent to the future and does not alter his actions in the timeline in any way then of course the future will proceed as normal except the time traveler had knowledge but did not use it.

Even if time travel was used to make money in the stock market and that secret got out eventually the stock market would correct itself and now as I said up above time travel would be a mute issue. Look at inside trading in the stock market as an example. Because someone knew the future ahead of time they made the market more unstable like a rollar coaster rather than a stable market. Looking at a rollar coaster stock is one way inside trading is caught. So, time travel actually in reality makes the future more unstable and un-predictable rather than stable and predictable. So, time travel itself is not worth trying.
 
Not only that but there are moral issues like killing your pregnant mother or killing Hitler. But I think only a self conscious respective person would time travel only if it warrants it. There are going to be bad eggs that would kill a cop in his childhood by traveling in time and giving him poison in his shots (like mercury, but only cyanide) and would steal artifacts from the past. No wonder why there is a huge threat of terrorism arising in secretive sects of the government involving time travel.

If I can't be involved with time travel, then surely I can't be involved with the hamster either since Hamsters are actually wild animals in Mongolia (arising from PETA). Then why is that that some people involve themselves in time travel and other dangerous ideas that the governments and societies don't want people to know? God knows we have free will but if God didn't want us to travel back in time, surely he would send us to hell for that. That is why religion and government worked together to keep time traveling hidden so that

<ul type="square"> [*]The Bloodline of the Illuminati and the reptilian bloodlines would not be extinguished from the beginning [*]the Bible may be always true according to the religions that use it [*]If we are going to die on the planet from some freak accident, and it's preventable, that we can't change it [*]That we can't save more genotypes from the volcano in the past so that we have more genetics to survive instead of select few [*]If our life sucks, we can't change the past and tell ourselves never to do this or that [/list]

There is more that I can write down but time travel is the double bladed sword. Even if you do good things, it may be more unstable on one perspective. So it is better left to the professionals.
 
It may be more difficult to really change the future than one may think.
Does it matter if you have chocolate ice cream rather than Mango Surprise ice cream? Or if you walk home instead of driving or taking the bus?

The world is made up of random, often stupid actions most of which cancel each other out. In other terms, it is mainly noise. More noise is more of the same thing.

At the same time, if the future can be changed, there must be something we do that doesn't cancel out or get lost in the noise.I don't know if this might be an individual act. You can change the future with a new religion, for example,but that's only because you would prompt a large group of people to start thinking along the same lines. Or maybe if you did something that nobody thought to do before, it would change the future by being the first(lots of luck with that).

But just the average stuff that an average person would think to do would get lost in the roar of six billion voices.

Being able to actually predict the future might be one way, but largely because if you were right on two or three predictions you would start to attract attention.

Of course if one claims to be a time traveler, and isn't, refusal to be specific because it would change the future makes a good excuse.

I forgot an important thing. We can change the future for one person for sure, which is ourselves. And we can change the future for a few people we associate with. Maybe that's enough. :D
 
I'm certain we can change our future one by one. But if you're a fake time traveller, you would actually try to disclose something that only isn't true in most of the time lines. I believe there is many time lines to choose from for the individual but if you change the future, you actually change the dimension that you're in to the other one. Everyonce in the while, some person would actually be the first to change the future but like you say, there is a noise of 6.5 billion people as well as imo, the noise of intercepting time lines that branch out from the singular event. Like there are computers in 1930's in one timeline and the other is in the far future, Victorian time period. So there is a lot of noise computed into each and every time line that would even separate it from the others.
 
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