John Titors postings could have been compromised

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pamela

Dimensional Traveler
I am posting this here so it cannot be deleted. If MOP has to investigate it then he can.
I am only looking for an answer of why it was done and trying not to do it in an accusing way.

I know Rainman left this thread open so me and einstein could change our postings to his demands.

Ist thread-
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=54295&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=4&vc=1

However the interesting thing is I went to the thread I had bumped up on Titor's postings
and it was open as well and I was able to edit my posting. As proof I added this to the end:

2nd thread-
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=9086&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3

"Back in the day when "time travelers" could post and questions could be asked them
and the moderator did not chase them away or try to ridicule them.
Interesting conversations actually took place."

Anyone who looked at the thread when it was first bumped can prove I am telling the truth and was able to edit it later because someone had opened the thread for edit for whatever reason.

I did not check the other Titor thread at the time. Both Titor threads are locked for edit now. But the first thread is still unlocked for edit now. But my question is why was this other thread unlocked to edit?(2nd thread) Were there deletions or changes being made to John's words? (sorry this was the first thing I thought because I know certain people are so against him)
Was it some kind of accident that more than one thread was unlocked for edit? If this was the case
I would like to know.

I want to know why John's postings were not moved to the Time travel claims section so they could not be touched by "added on" moderators?? I no longer trust the validity of those threads. Until I get an answer on why that thread was also unlocked for edit. I also do not trust the fact that "added on" moderators can edit threads. Edits can be done without the "edited" thing shown.
I did it myself in my own posting. It is obvious these threads can be locked and unlocked for edit at any time by a moderator.

Trying hard not to be accusatory but just looking for answers.
 
Re: John Titors postings could have been compromis

i just add something there:
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=57225&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1

Note: as far as the Time Travel Tech evolve we will say:
The First to Jump to a Time Portal or "Rings" Wins, cause Time Travel Machines are necesary right "now" to move the Portals or Rings to the Final "time" destinations...

BTW: Nice to hear about you Again! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I am posting this here so it cannot be deleted. If MOP has to investigate it then he can.
I am only looking for an answer of why it was done and trying not to do it in an accusing way.

I know Rainman left this thread open so me and einstein could change our postings to his demands.

Ist thread-
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=54295&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=4&vc=1

However the interesting thing is I went to the thread I had bumped up on Titor's postings
and it was open as well and I was able to edit my posting. As proof I added this to the end:

2nd thread-
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=9086&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3

"Back in the day when "time travelers" could post and questions could be asked them
and the moderator did not chase them away or try to ridicule them.
Interesting conversations actually took place."

Anyone who looked at the thread when it was first bumped can prove I am telling the truth and was able to edit it later because someone had opened the thread for edit for whatever reason.

I did not check the other Titor thread at the time. Both Titor threads are locked for edit now. But the first thread is still unlocked for edit now. But my question is why was this other thread unlocked to edit?(2nd thread) Were there deletions or changes being made to John's words? (sorry this was the first thing I thought because I know certain people are so against him)
Was it some kind of accident that more than one thread was unlocked for edit? If this was the case
I would like to know.

I want to know why John's postings were not moved to the Time travel claims section so they could not be touched by "added on" moderators?? I no longer trust the validity of those threads. Until I get an answer on why that thread was also unlocked for edit. I also do not trust the fact that "added on" moderators can edit threads. Edits can be done without the "edited" thing shown.
I did it myself in my own posting. It is obvious these threads can be locked and unlocked for edit at any time by a moderator.

Trying hard not to be accusatory but just looking for answers.
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I love questioning authority! Please enlighten us. Enquiring minds want to know.
 
Trying hard not to be accusatory but just looking for answers.
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No, you weren't trying hard not to be accusatory. In fact you were being vindictive because you just don't like Ray.

Had you been making a full disclosure you'd have added that both you and I have complete unedited copies of both "Time Travel Paradoxes" and "...topics limited to 11 pages?". You would have also re-referenced the fact that on this site the "Time Travel Paradoxes" thread was corrupted when it encountered the page overflow in 2001 that resulted in the follow-up thread "...topics limited to 11 pages?" and that Raul stated many, many years ago that he was working on trying to reconstruct it.

If you have some specific observation to make then post, side-by-side, the appurtenant "original" and "changed" texts that you believe were edited rather than taking your current anger out on Ray, Raul, "add-on moderators" and the site in general with an unsubstantiated rant. (Of course, there's always the argument that no one edited them. Rather, the timeline has changed. Yikes.)

Remember, several years ago while you were a moderator, you yourself accidentally corrupted an entire thread after you started the topic and it had been responded to at length. You went back and deleted the first post on the thread. The entire thread disappeared. And that wasn't the last time that you got involved in a Titor thread, waited for your post to be responded to at length and went back and deleted your initial post.
 
Darby,

This has nothing to do with you. I think you are the one who doesn't like me.
butt out. I am trying to find an answer here you are just trying to cause trouble
and it's not needed. You are not an expert on how I feel about anything at any time.
Why do you always try to stir up some kind of conflict? Quit trying to change the subject
and think it will be swept under the rug.

I had a question and I posted it the best I could. It may not have been the best worded
but I tried.

It is a valid question to something I noticed and I want to know why.
I am looking for an answer and Darby would have no clue. I am hoping Rainman or Mop
answer it.
 
Re: John Titors postings could have been compromis

No, you weren't trying hard not to be accusatory.
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Speaking of the Devil?????

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I had a question and I posted it the best I could. It may not have been the best worded but I tried.

It is a valid question to something I noticed and I want to know why. I am looking for an answer and Darby would have no clue. I am hoping Rainman or Mop answer it.
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It's not a valid question in the sense that you voiced it. Go back and re-read the post. You phrased your question in an angry, demanding and demeaning tone that suggested that you somehow share a proprietary interest in, specifically, TTO/Titor's posts with Raul (MOP). If you really want some cooperation from Ray and Raul that's surely not the way to get'er done.

Last week you got p*ssed off and stormed off the set. This week you come back with the above post. I really am sorry that whatever transpired so upset you. But a public "gotcha" in an attempt to get a change of Mods isn't the proper response. That does appear to be your plan as evidenced by your demeaning "add-on moderator" quip - as if Ray is an interloper. You couldn't have been refering to anyone other than Ray with the "add-on moderator" comment because this site has only had three Mods since 1999: Ray, Roel and Dymenzionz. Roel has been gone for four years and Dymenzionz has been gone since just before TTO/Titor stopped posting - almost eight years. Rainman is the only moderator here.

As I said, if you have noted something that has changed relative to the original threads then post the "before-and-after" posts that you believe have been changed. If you have a complaint about the Moderator you know, as a past Moderator yourself, that the proper forum is the PM.
 
The creator of the Titor hoax must be laughing his/her ass off everyday that people are still getting heated over his fiction. People will believe anything eh?
 
Pamela really is without question one of the most anomolous people on the internet.

The piss-poor faked laser beam (fishing rod) picture alone is enough to completely and totally destroy Titor but still she persists with the sad devotion, defending 'John'as she still insists on calling the hoaxer that's made her look like some sort of special needs case for the last few years.

I thought you were no longer insterested Pamela? You posted fairly recently that you'd moved on and you could care less what other people thought about Titor's posts. And yet here you are supposedly protecting their accuracy (As if that's in any shape or form important!)

Titor is dead. Let him disappear beneath the surface of internet folklore. Concentrate on your angels instead /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
People think the Way of their own inner spirit. The mind and the brain are the only weapons or not weapons in this Universe. Everything else is an extension formed first in the thought processes that go on in humans. Because of this, no human can not be sure that people can get rid of using excuses or not. The question you pose at least to me Pamela can not be answered unless the person is willing to answer it. Some people have used this in this Country to use a new behavior, and one that is anti-social. The way that they think is to only find holes in the way that people think, an then come up with something they think is not anti-social but intelligent thinking. First of all, people would have to decide which is the intelligent way to think and some people are not willing to do that bit of work, and remain unconvinced that even without a college degree that they can sort of give Orders to everyone else - for their own inner anti-socialness. This is why religion in its current form does not seem to work. It was interpreted by humans who are less willing to be willing to convention and conformists saying that their way was equally valid. It can also seemingly be used to create Wars and Peace. But to me, it is not an answer, so I remain the way that seems to be most normal, most of the time. In conflict there are always decisions to be made, and it will not be the decisions that were made, but the inner strengths and trends of people that make the outcome become real. However, this all may not make the humans any more of an intelligent species acting out in this manner as some people have done in the Past, because in the end it ended up not to be communications but an act and in the end it was not freedom of speech but a means to an end.

Otherwise it may be important to you, but I do not have an answer, as I am not going to be here or anywhere 24 hours a day. So I simply do not know. So here is my version. The Ten Commandments were given to the Jews to follow by Moses to get other people to help the Jews out if they needed it because other people would do the same type of Acts as they continue to do nowadays. Then the Lord Jesus came on the Planet, and placed is Two Commandments for everyone to follow in a New Testament instead of the old Testament. Humans are imperfect beings that mainly will do first what is needed to survive. In the process the inner workings though of some people may just end up not being rational. Thus the debate (Acts) between both political Parties. Except, who placed them above anyone else? The only thing I can say is that more rational thinking may be needed in the future, and I have no idea if someone is editing threads or posts. For sure I don't think I can do it, and I have never even thought of trying to edit an old post. For one thing, I could not before, of my own posts, so that will be that. I do not seek ways around what has been done already, but most people try and learn for the future. Some people will not and do not. Those type of people are stagnant in their thinking. Well, I did not do that. so that is all I can say.
 
Some people are not courteous and that is with a big period.
It is similiar to this:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/ufoafterlight/index.html

No, not that it is a computer game, but the interface. People just want to add something to a game to make it annoying. Some people also think that they know everything, and never really thought about the subject theirselves, but took it on the words from someone else. So if another intepretation is used, the entire worldline looks different because of the perception. However, the perception has and always will be entirely formed in the mind and brain of an individual, whether it is correct (right) or wrong. That is a bias and prejudice attitude, and some college degrees should be taken away from such people. These type of people have no manners, want to accuse other people of what it is that they are doing, and I know from personal experience which I have that that is true. So when you are young, for example, you are taught by these people, who will claim another excuse as to their behavior. It is for sure that kids pick up more than most adults will admit. But kids are flexible, and some adults are not. Such as that, some people will stake their entire spirit world life on false premises in the end. They did not really listen, or else as a kid they did not realize that the adult really could not communicate to where the child could make a decision on whether the info was correct or not. First a child does not have all the information, and neither will an adult. Some adults can not relate to a child, for they do not think that they are children anymore. But all of us are if you Believe in God.

And anyway, I am on Mars some of the time. You've the Martians probably still there, the Reticulans, the Earth Colony trying to make a new home after losing Planet Earth to the Reticulan's biomass project, and also some Beastman (I call them Beasty Boys) trying to claim Planet Mars coming in from a Quantum Gate to the Planet. But mainly the central idea is still the interface, and that was thought up of by humans who programmed it. The computer is not also stupid, it also makes no judgements on anything except on how it is programmed. And any computer program is that way. Now, if more adults were that way, except that on this Planet, there is the usual virtues and the usual vices that some humans tend to ignore. Yes, this ends up in form from the unconscious and subconsciousness, and some people can not deal with it. But again the brain can be changed and any intelligent species in this Universe would first have to acknowledge that. Does that make religion wrong? No not really. But since it is human intepretation, it may make it dumb as in a wrong intepretation. Thus why Ancient Mama is brought up. What if it is found that humans took more time to develop than at first thought of by humans who claim that it was only from 6000 years ago instead of 3.2 million years ago, or even 7-8 million years ago. They in the end all claim to know more about everything and that they are time-travellers when it is clear that they can not prove it and only live in this time. Perhaps that message should be more central to any thinking in the first place as it does not make the human evil to think of questions when the answers may not be so clear as to firmly believe something that seems -- well -- preprogrammed into a human by others who may not have been as intelligent as what they think they were at the time. I do not see where Humans create Time and it is clear that Humans do not create Time. Although creating a falsehood seems to be some sort of normal type of behavior nowadays. But in the end humans have to ask her/him self if what is presented is some form of dictatorial type of binding without permission or approval or humans in the end will be more willing to become more honest about how they think or why they think that way in the first place.

This along the way has not been done by some others in the case of discussing Titor. I know, is not an answer from these people. They only know as of what they know now. That does not mean that they are wrong, just that some people do not wish to communicate on this Planet. They are in foreign Countries, they are in this Country, and they are all around. So, if it is so easy, then transform Mars into a livable planet, because you have an example of that around -- it is called Planet Earth.

Who moved the thread, at least it could have been mentioned as to why? Do not assume that people have to come even here to post. At least to some people, they are questioning whether Ancient Mama did exist and have presented proof as to the existence. Some people do not like that, I guess.
It all has to deal with time travel in that sense of rotating around this Sun for millions of years or perhaps billions of years already.
 
And in this Country, some Senators do not even like that crap going on.
(and probably others who actually are in the Government.)

And when all Hell can break lose, then it is those people who will decide what will happen.
 
Tempus Edax Rerum

Quoted from STA

Greetings. I am a time traveler trying desperately to return to my world.

I woke up one day on your Earth which is a lot like my Earth but still not the same.

My time machine is a completely mobile unit the size and look of a old time cigarette case. Commonly called a “Wells device” Wave Emulation Location Launching System

“We d all love to see the plan? Ask you for a contribution” Better free your mind instead. The Beatles

I will never share pictures of the unit with people not ready for such a device.

My stock exchange investment recommendation would be invest in anything that is researching making life forms on Earth tiny real tiny. The smaller we get the more room we will have. If you leave the cows and fish normal size. You get the picture and be careful swimming.

Link to youtube

<font color="blue"> Tempus Edax Rerum Time devours things or however you read it time is only a part of the processes and ultimately by itself controls or devours nothing.

Can a master chef at home in there own kitchen prepare the exact same meal or even dish twice. No

Can a robotic chef in a completely controlled environmentally sealed and controlled kitchen measuring ingredients down to the microgram prepare the same dish twice. No but it would be much more accurate with a smaller abnormality effect allowed or Random variables

Mass, length, time, electric charge, temperature, stabilizing elements. The table cloth barrier placed down before the meal is delivered for placement and containment of unknown unforeseen acts during the feasting. The bouncer/balancer of slobs the sacrificing manager maintaining order. [/COLOR]

more at given link...

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