John Titor in a Leotard and on the big screen?
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Mathiassen
Temporal Novice
what the...
i doubt it will be based on john titor's story word for word. I bet they will change it up alot like movies usually do.
i doubt it will be based on john titor's story word for word. I bet they will change it up alot like movies usually do.
Fig26Films
Temporal Novice
I'm Jay Cheel, the director of the film mentioned above. The filmu is actually a documentary short, about 24 minutes long. The story of John Titor is only an element of the film and it is pretty much told through Oliver Williams (webmaster of www.johntitor.com) and Larry Haber (Titor family attourney), so the story is pretty intact. Here's a short synopsis of the film:
'Obsessed & Scienfiic' is not wrapped in theories and scienfiic explanations. It looks at people who are sincerely hopeful of a future where time travel is a possibility.
Michio Kaku, the world renowned theoretical physicist, discusses the many problems and possibilities of travelling through time. Rob Niosi, a stop-motion animator and prop builder from New York, discusses his ongoing quest to build a full scale replica of the time machine featured in the 1960 film adaptation of H.G. Well's classic story. Finally, Oliver Williams introduces us to John Titor, a supposed time traveller. Oliver's website, www.johntitor.com, has posed some interesting questions and theories based on predictions and posts left behind by the man from 2036. Entertainment lawyer Larry Haber's involvement in the story goes even deeper, representing the modern day family of the time traveller, acting as a messenger between his clients and the world.
Whether or not time travel exists is not the question at hand here. What's equally intresting is the question of why we are so eager to go back? To relive the best moments of our lives? To change the mistakes we've made?
Obessed & Scientific will be entering film festivals over the next year in hopes of obtaining funding for a feature length version of the film. For more information, visit www.figure26films.com or email [email protected].
'Obsessed & Scienfiic' is not wrapped in theories and scienfiic explanations. It looks at people who are sincerely hopeful of a future where time travel is a possibility.
Michio Kaku, the world renowned theoretical physicist, discusses the many problems and possibilities of travelling through time. Rob Niosi, a stop-motion animator and prop builder from New York, discusses his ongoing quest to build a full scale replica of the time machine featured in the 1960 film adaptation of H.G. Well's classic story. Finally, Oliver Williams introduces us to John Titor, a supposed time traveller. Oliver's website, www.johntitor.com, has posed some interesting questions and theories based on predictions and posts left behind by the man from 2036. Entertainment lawyer Larry Haber's involvement in the story goes even deeper, representing the modern day family of the time traveller, acting as a messenger between his clients and the world.
Whether or not time travel exists is not the question at hand here. What's equally intresting is the question of why we are so eager to go back? To relive the best moments of our lives? To change the mistakes we've made?
Obessed & Scientific will be entering film festivals over the next year in hopes of obtaining funding for a feature length version of the film. For more information, visit www.figure26films.com or email [email protected].
Darby
Epochal Historian
Jay,
Thank you for the post - though I believe that Qflux was referring to Caitlyn Lace Carradine's ballet that she is performing this month in Los Angeles.
If you haven't completed the pre-production shooting and interviews it might be an interesting follow-up with Larry Haber to ask him about the Celebration, Florida connection to the Titor Saga.
If you haven't already read the appropriate posts I'll give you the synopsis of the Celebration Connection:
This is the original site where Titor first posted as "TimeTravel_0". Raul Burriel is the owner of this site. At the time that Titor first appeared Raul was also the SysAdmin of the Celebration community website and BBS forum (http://www.34747.org). On that site he had several hot links to other sites that he owned - including this one. (Raul is not otherwise involved in the story nor is he involved with Haber or the JTF.)
Titor made his appearance here and on Art Bell's Post-2-Post (P2P) site and eventually left. Four years later the John Titor Foundation (JFT) is organized as a Florida Limited Liability Company. It is housed at one of Larry Haber's office addresses in Celebration along with a movie production studio, graphic arts studio and sound production studio. Larry is Chief Legal Counsel and Business Manager for the JTF.
We've always found it a bit strange that "Mom" Titor, having been warned about the danger that she, Dad and Little John would be in if their identities were discovered by the enemy of John Titor (our present government), chose among all possible attorneys an entertainment attorney to represent the family "problem."
Another problem that has come out of the John Titor Foundation are "The Book" and "The Radio Program." Ben Z aka "Buzzmaker" produced the radio program. He said that he is a friend and business associate of Larry Haber's. He made no bones about the fact that the radio program is fictional and that he was under the impression that the Titor Saga was an online role playing game. He also said that the "additional material" (additional schematics and notes) included in copies of The Book (if purchased directly from the JTF rather than through E-Bay) were "faked" by the book writing staff at JTF.
Thank you for the post - though I believe that Qflux was referring to Caitlyn Lace Carradine's ballet that she is performing this month in Los Angeles.
If you haven't completed the pre-production shooting and interviews it might be an interesting follow-up with Larry Haber to ask him about the Celebration, Florida connection to the Titor Saga.
If you haven't already read the appropriate posts I'll give you the synopsis of the Celebration Connection:
This is the original site where Titor first posted as "TimeTravel_0". Raul Burriel is the owner of this site. At the time that Titor first appeared Raul was also the SysAdmin of the Celebration community website and BBS forum (http://www.34747.org). On that site he had several hot links to other sites that he owned - including this one. (Raul is not otherwise involved in the story nor is he involved with Haber or the JTF.)
Titor made his appearance here and on Art Bell's Post-2-Post (P2P) site and eventually left. Four years later the John Titor Foundation (JFT) is organized as a Florida Limited Liability Company. It is housed at one of Larry Haber's office addresses in Celebration along with a movie production studio, graphic arts studio and sound production studio. Larry is Chief Legal Counsel and Business Manager for the JTF.
We've always found it a bit strange that "Mom" Titor, having been warned about the danger that she, Dad and Little John would be in if their identities were discovered by the enemy of John Titor (our present government), chose among all possible attorneys an entertainment attorney to represent the family "problem."
Another problem that has come out of the John Titor Foundation are "The Book" and "The Radio Program." Ben Z aka "Buzzmaker" produced the radio program. He said that he is a friend and business associate of Larry Haber's. He made no bones about the fact that the radio program is fictional and that he was under the impression that the Titor Saga was an online role playing game. He also said that the "additional material" (additional schematics and notes) included in copies of The Book (if purchased directly from the JTF rather than through E-Bay) were "faked" by the book writing staff at JTF.
Fig26Films
Temporal Novice
In regards to the Celebration connection, Larry did talk about having worked there but didn't go in to much detail. One thing he wanted to make very clear is that he no longer works out of Celebration. I guess there have been many visitors looking for his offices and taking pictures and it has started to annoy the people over there.
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Closing notes:I am not sure of what this time will yield out, as an end result.
At this time, the sun already burns white, over to where this same sun, was classified as a yellow star, in highschool science books only ten to twenty years, back in time.
So something really bizarre is happening to the sun's internal mechanics at this time.I haven't a clue and even if I did, I wouldn't say here.
So the Mayan clander predictions,. of year 2012, as opposed to said contacts, in many ranges from years 2023 to 26, I can't venture a qualifying comment.
On our own Pamela, which I won't say her last name.
She walks off scott free, as this person was one of the big players, in the dissemination of information in this sector of the net.
So it seems that even though there will be a play woven around said Titor comments, then this embellishment, might or might not be used to dull down the taxcisisty of any projected situation surround the said Titor situatation.
*At this point, Creedo snaps the paper, from both sides and looks over the top of his reading bifocals at one of the well known MOPs from <a href="http://www.anomlies.net." target="_blank">www.anomlies.net.</a>
It may be, that some players will have elovled?
At this time, the sun already burns white, over to where this same sun, was classified as a yellow star, in highschool science books only ten to twenty years, back in time.
So something really bizarre is happening to the sun's internal mechanics at this time.I haven't a clue and even if I did, I wouldn't say here.
So the Mayan clander predictions,. of year 2012, as opposed to said contacts, in many ranges from years 2023 to 26, I can't venture a qualifying comment.
On our own Pamela, which I won't say her last name.
She walks off scott free, as this person was one of the big players, in the dissemination of information in this sector of the net.
So it seems that even though there will be a play woven around said Titor comments, then this embellishment, might or might not be used to dull down the taxcisisty of any projected situation surround the said Titor situatation.
*At this point, Creedo snaps the paper, from both sides and looks over the top of his reading bifocals at one of the well known MOPs from <a href="http://www.anomlies.net." target="_blank">www.anomlies.net.</a>
It may be, that some players will have elovled?
Darby
Epochal Historian
Jay,
Thanks for the reply.
We've known that Larry maintains law offices outside of Celebration for quite some time. However he still lists the JTF address, where he is the business manager, as 606 Front Street, Celebration, FLA 34747. VISI Corp also maintains that address. Larry is (we believe) still Chief Legal Counsel for VISI. That's the graphics arts studio. Front St Productions maintains the same address. That's the film and audio production unit.
And Larry still lives in Celebration. In fact he is the "First Person" of Celebration according to their own lore. He was the first person to move in when the community was formed by Disney.
I know that you're a young film maker and don't want to make too many waves before your career even gets off the ground, but you do understand and know that Larry is not just a hack lawyer who claims to be an entertainment attorney? He's the real deal and quite well known in Florida, Los Angeles/Hollywood and New York.
That's the concern. When people are in trouble and in need of legal advise because "the government" might be out to get them, their country is about to be plunged into a civil war and 3 billion people are about to die in a world war is it logical that they seek out an entertainment lawyer to form an LLC, give them advise about how best to market coffee mugs, t-shirts, books and films and make the lawyer the business manager?
Or, frankly, is it logical to entertain the thought that the principles of the JTF are Group Titor and includes "Boomer", the author of the John Titor Saga - who may well be Larry Haber?
One interesting question might be to ask Larry if he has a brother who is a physicist at a West Coast physics research laboratory.
All of us understand that Larry has been beseiged with inquiries (even though he has answered exceedingly few of them). For my part I've discouraged people on Anomalies from going a-knocking at his door. This is, after all, just an online fiction. We also understand Larry's annoyance with the situation.
But...
This story was running here, on Anomalies.net and (before it closed down) Post-2-Post on Art Bell's old BBS for almost four years before the JTF was officially formed by Larry. He chose to make that move and he knew precisely how popular the topic is and was and that it has been somewhat contentious. For him to complain about the "publicity" is a bit naive given the totality of the circumstances. The more so considering that his son Brandon became involved last year by posting on Anomalies.
Thanks for the reply.
We've known that Larry maintains law offices outside of Celebration for quite some time. However he still lists the JTF address, where he is the business manager, as 606 Front Street, Celebration, FLA 34747. VISI Corp also maintains that address. Larry is (we believe) still Chief Legal Counsel for VISI. That's the graphics arts studio. Front St Productions maintains the same address. That's the film and audio production unit.
And Larry still lives in Celebration. In fact he is the "First Person" of Celebration according to their own lore. He was the first person to move in when the community was formed by Disney.
I know that you're a young film maker and don't want to make too many waves before your career even gets off the ground, but you do understand and know that Larry is not just a hack lawyer who claims to be an entertainment attorney? He's the real deal and quite well known in Florida, Los Angeles/Hollywood and New York.
That's the concern. When people are in trouble and in need of legal advise because "the government" might be out to get them, their country is about to be plunged into a civil war and 3 billion people are about to die in a world war is it logical that they seek out an entertainment lawyer to form an LLC, give them advise about how best to market coffee mugs, t-shirts, books and films and make the lawyer the business manager?
Or, frankly, is it logical to entertain the thought that the principles of the JTF are Group Titor and includes "Boomer", the author of the John Titor Saga - who may well be Larry Haber?
One interesting question might be to ask Larry if he has a brother who is a physicist at a West Coast physics research laboratory.
All of us understand that Larry has been beseiged with inquiries (even though he has answered exceedingly few of them). For my part I've discouraged people on Anomalies from going a-knocking at his door. This is, after all, just an online fiction. We also understand Larry's annoyance with the situation.
But...
This story was running here, on Anomalies.net and (before it closed down) Post-2-Post on Art Bell's old BBS for almost four years before the JTF was officially formed by Larry. He chose to make that move and he knew precisely how popular the topic is and was and that it has been somewhat contentious. For him to complain about the "publicity" is a bit naive given the totality of the circumstances. The more so considering that his son Brandon became involved last year by posting on Anomalies.
Oh Darby!
Good to see you still as bitter and shrill as ever. Old JT still got your goat after making you look the fool so many years ago. I better watch my tongue. Oh wait, you can't just delete me and all my posts from this board.
You have to be kidding me. You're mad at Larry because he took the client? Isn't that his job? According to the mythology, he's never even met John's mother. Who knows who hired him. Maybe you did! I remember seeing a rumor a while ago that even you were going to write a book about John Titor. How's that coming?
Hey, don't you live in the great state of California? Are you going to the ballet? Take some pictures!
Good to see you still as bitter and shrill as ever. Old JT still got your goat after making you look the fool so many years ago. I better watch my tongue. Oh wait, you can't just delete me and all my posts from this board.
You have to be kidding me. You're mad at Larry because he took the client? Isn't that his job? According to the mythology, he's never even met John's mother. Who knows who hired him. Maybe you did! I remember seeing a rumor a while ago that even you were going to write a book about John Titor. How's that coming?
Hey, don't you live in the great state of California? Are you going to the ballet? Take some pictures!
Fig26Films
Temporal Novice
I've started a blog at www.figure26films.com for anyone interested in following the project or commenting.
jay
jay
Darby
Epochal Historian
qflux,
Good to see you too.
BTW: I plugged your thread here on Anomalies a few days ago.
If there was a rumor about me writing a book it was false. Rick is writing one and Pamela might be writing one, but not me.
I'm not bitter about Larry making a profit. That's what he does for a living for heaven's sake.
I was putting the scenario in the context of "if this were real" why would Mom Titor go to an entertainment lawyer to sell coffee mugs and t-shirts?
Good to see you too.
If there was a rumor about me writing a book it was false. Rick is writing one and Pamela might be writing one, but not me.
I'm not bitter about Larry making a profit. That's what he does for a living for heaven's sake.
I was putting the scenario in the context of "if this were real" why would Mom Titor go to an entertainment lawyer to sell coffee mugs and t-shirts?
I'm not sure I'm following your argument Darby.
Since Rick and Pamela are just late getting on John's bandwagon, then we all agree that making money off of John's story is okay? Even this site is selling a cool JT shirt.
If so, then why is Larry and his client any different? As I recall, the real author (time traveler or not) was established as being in cahoots with Larry. Is that what makes them a bad guy?
Maybe the real author is dead from cancer and this is the only way the family keeps the memory alive and pays off that Visa bill from 2012. Maybe this mother is the real author and she's divorced with a kid in the hospital. Why is he/she/they any different than this site, Rick, Pamela, Coast 2 Coast, Oliver Willams, Jay Cheel, the ballet dancer, the John TItor play guys...?
For the record, me thinks you protest a little too much. I still think this could be your grand master plan. Nice work if it is.
If I were really John's mom, I might make a buck from a coffe cup. It may even help cover my tracks with the Feds at Gitmo. Don't they have a cell there for time travelers, or at least their mothers?
Since Rick and Pamela are just late getting on John's bandwagon, then we all agree that making money off of John's story is okay? Even this site is selling a cool JT shirt.
If so, then why is Larry and his client any different? As I recall, the real author (time traveler or not) was established as being in cahoots with Larry. Is that what makes them a bad guy?
Maybe the real author is dead from cancer and this is the only way the family keeps the memory alive and pays off that Visa bill from 2012. Maybe this mother is the real author and she's divorced with a kid in the hospital. Why is he/she/they any different than this site, Rick, Pamela, Coast 2 Coast, Oliver Willams, Jay Cheel, the ballet dancer, the John TItor play guys...?
For the record, me thinks you protest a little too much. I still think this could be your grand master plan. Nice work if it is.
If I were really John's mom, I might make a buck from a coffe cup. It may even help cover my tracks with the Feds at Gitmo. Don't they have a cell there for time travelers, or at least their mothers?
Fig26Films
Temporal Novice
I've posted the letters from John Titor's mother that was given to me by Larry Haber. I've also put up two clips from the film. Check out www.figure26films.com.
jay
jay