Is it possible to see alternate versions of you?

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esti34

Temporal Novice
I've had an interest in time travel ever since seeing the Back to the Future and Terminator movies. The movie Hot Tub Time Machine (which is essentially Back to the Future for the Millenial Generation) sparked my interest as well as Command and Conquer Red Alert, the first game.

Could there have ever been an opportunity where you could see your alternate self? Like one that is better in life or in the dumps constantly. I haven't had the best life growing up, but make some better decisions and I think I'd be better off now. But the thing is are our alternate lives better in life supposedly?

I do think about changing the past sometimes so I'm not as miserable, but would it necessarily be better?

I was just wondering what the opinions on this board were. I'm not trying to, just wondering...
 
There's too many paradoxes involved in changing the past....not to mention violation of several basic laws of physics. I doubt it will ever happen......and if it ever does, it will involve technology millions ( not just a few tens or hundreds ) of years ahead of us.

Time travel to the future is a lot easier, indeed one could argue it is already happening....with astronauts on the International Space Station.
 
Hi esti:

I believe that you see an alternate version of your self when you do future remote viewing. Also if you are hypnotized and do a progression as opposed to a regression. The progression shows you potential future lives for you.

As for the debunkers, they expect 100% accuracy. Then again, they do not expect 100% accuracy from bowlers, baseball players, or even when playing a dart game. The farther out an event is, the harder it is to hit the bulls eye I say.

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As for the debunkers, they expect 100% accuracy.
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No.....the 'accuracy' is not the main thing that counts. What matters far more is the probability.

For example, in a test run of Zenner cards. Usually a run of 25 cards ( On average you'd get 5 out of 25 by chance ). If you got all 25 correct, you might think 'wow...I got the whole lot right !', and consider it highly impressive.

But in fact.....it would be MORE impressive if, in a test consisting of 1,000 runs of 25, you 'only' got 6 out of 25 every time. This is because the more test runs you do, the more any deviation from the average ( a score of 5 ) accumulates the odds against chance.

It might seem counter-intuitive that in a larger run you could get MOST of the cards wrong and end up with a more impressive result. But that is that way statistics work.

And that is why probability is far more important than accuracy. Getting all 25 cards correct in one run can be dismissed as a fluke......but consistently getting just 6 right in numerous runs adds up to odds of millions to one against chance.

Translate that to 'predictions', and its the probability that matters. If I predict that the sun will rise tomorrow, well......I stand a damn good chance of being correct ! On the other hand, if I predict that at 2.23pm tomorrow, alien beings will land on the Whitehouse lawn and start conducting ambassadorial negotiations with the Whitehouse dog.......and THAT happens.....then one should be impressed.
 
Good luck explaining scientific and statistical reality to HDRKID! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Translate that to 'predictions', and its the probability that matters. If I predict that the sun will rise tomorrow, well......I stand a damn good chance of being correct ! On the other hand, if I predict that at 2.23pm tomorrow, alien beings will land on the Whitehouse lawn and start conducting ambassadorial negotiations with the Whitehouse dog.......and THAT happens.....then one should be impressed.
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This is something HDRKID has consistently and completely ignored every time I address his "predictions"...especially as they relate to short term (within 1 year) average gas prices. He has been consistently wrong, yet he continues to trumpet anytime he gets "close" (by his estimation). And when I have been exceedingly correct, through nothing more than historical analysis with a little linear regression, he ignores it.

It's just another cult of personality drill as far as HDRKID is concerned.
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esti,

I was just wondering what the opinions on this board were. I'm not trying to, just wondering...
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The best answer is for you to read the threads going back as far as you desire. They start in 1999 on this permutation of TTI but, in fact, TTI goes back farther than that. Threads were lost when Raul moved from Xzone to his private servers but the general "feeling" isn't lost. You can tell from the threads what the majority of the opinions are. It would be a disservice to try to summarize 11 years of opinion into a single thread (or post). You be the judge.

I will offer that the movies are great. I enjoy them. But the real answer is to check what real physicists know. Time travel to the past is tenuous, at best. The problems involved go far beyond paradoxes. Subatomic particles, and we are all made from them, could care less about what we perceive as paradoxes. Paradoxes are real and they play a big part in the problem. But even if you construct an otherwise successful thought experiment that ignores them you still run up against physical laws that seriously hinder time travel to the past. People might opine that they "believe" that known physics is all wrong but they can't tell you exactly or even approximately why that might be even remotely true. Democracy and free speach have their place. But physical reality is not a democracy. Off the wall opinions are fine but nature could care less. It is what it is. Opinions and butt-holes have a common parameter - everyone has one. That doesn't translate into all opinions are a description of reality. Some opinions, properly put forward, have weight. Others need a good dose of Zanax.
 
I don't know if this would count, but I think I've dealt with an alternate self within my own timeline or at least people who look like me.

One time I got banned from a grocery store for stealing batteries or so they say, but I have no recollection of ever going in there to go get batteries. I didn't have the need to at that particular moment in time. Yet when I walked into the store that night they immediately decided it was me who did the deed. I don't know, but this could be an alternate self or just someone who did something that looks remarkably like me. When trying to get the tapings of myself to prove it wasn't me, they wouldn't help me out in that matter and the situation just seemed totally bogus. I'm sort of glad that the store recently closed down this year even though what happened about 10 years ago.
 
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