I'm From The Present

RainmanTime

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I\'m From The Present

Yes, that's right. Hard to believe, I know.

I will now entertain questions from anyone, on any topic. I can also provide proof, but you must realize that my mission orders will necessitate that I "sanitize" some answers so you folks from the past and the future cannot make unethical gains from knowing what happens in the present.


RMT
 
Re: I\'m From The Present

Oh, here we go again. Another claim! Well, Mister, here is a test question to prove your statment.

What happened yesterday that will provide proof that you are from the present? It has to be something news worthy so we know you aren't spoofing.
 
Re: I\'m From The Present

Greetings fellow time traveler:
What happened yesterday that will provide proof that you are from the present? It has to be something news worthy so we know you aren't spoofing.
Perhaps you misunderstood. I stated that I was from the PRESENT. And yet the question you ask me relates to the PAST. So I am wondering how you expect me to prove that I am from the present by citing an event that occurs in the past? I can only answer questions about the present. Now you may think that this is dodging the question, and you might expect that I would spout off some nonsense about how "my mission directives prohibit me from revealing such information." But in truth and reflecting how reality really works, I cannot answer questions from you about the past for the simple fact that I live in the present. Do you understand? I hope you are not disappointed.

But I can tell you about what it is like to live in the present. It is a wonderful time. Much more kind and compassionate than the time you find yourself living in. We have lots of high technology, stuff is always free (or at least it seems like I never have to pay for anything), and there is a rockin' concert in the present at any given time! The Rolling Stones are presently playing in Rio De Janerio.

One thing that is kind of entertaining about living here in the present is that there are people who show up to time travel forums like this one claiming to be from the future, but none ever show up claiming to be from the past! That is really funny because everyone here in the present knows that the "good old days" of the past are the best place to go on vacation!

OK....so I wonder if you have any other questions about the present? When do you come from, my friend?
RMT
 
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When do you come from, my friend?

I arrived on what is now known as Earth in the early 60's. I am indeed a time traveler, and my craft has transported me to present time. My craft is a bio suit designed by two creators, each making their own contributions to the patterns woven into the suit.

Traveling through time has put some wear on the suit, but it still functions quite well. It does require some special liquid cooling substance once in awhile to make certain the circuits dont overheat and cause a system break down.

I think it is quite obvious you are dodging my questions. Surely you can do better than that!

Perhaps a technical question for you...does it taste better..? or is it less filling..?

If you are whom you claim to be, then this should be a simple question for you to answer.
 
Re: I\'m From The Present

Dear Disbeliever,

Your time travel bio suit sounds a bit like the models we show off in museums here in the present. I keep hearing people rave about something called a "57 Chevy" as if it were the present-day Cat's Meow (more of a rough growl, if you ask me!). Anyway, on to your questions/comments:
If you are whom you claim to be, then this should be a simple question for you to answer.
Yup.
Perhaps a technical question for you...does it taste better..? or is it less filling..?
Ahhh, you know of the Question Of The Creator (QOTC?) Very good! You will be happy to know that we have solved this ever-present conundrum here in the present. When you blend the YIN with the YANG of this important question, you arrive at the only answer that makes present-sense:

"It tastes filling, but is less better!"

That's why I gave up Miller Lite once I found St. Pauli Girl here in the present. In fact, I am presently drinking one. Would you like to join me in the present and enjoy a cold one with me?

(Gulp-gulp-gulp) The best thing about drinking the sacred hops when you live in the present is... (you knew it was coming!)...

THERE IS NO AFTER-TASTE! (rimshot please?)
RMT
 
Re: I\'m From The Present

Did you know that if you jump out of an open window and land on a bicycle without a seat, it really hurts?
 
Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Did you know that if you jump out of an open window and land on a bicycle without a seat, it really hurts?
Now that's interesting. Actually, no, at the present I do not know that. I'll have to add that to my list of things to do in the present. The odd thing about living in the present is that we cannot learn from other's pasts. Personal experience is a very big fad in my time.

But I must say, I bring good news! For a nominal, non-refundable fee of only $19.95 I can teach people who live in the past and the future to learn how to live in the present. Here are just a few comments from some of my present students:

"History is more or less bunk. It's tradition. We don't want tradition. We want to live in the present and the only history that's worth a tinker's damn is the history we make today." --Henry Ford

"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough troubles of its own." --Jesus Christ

"The more I give myself permission to live in the moment and enjoy it without feeling guilty . . . the better I feel about the quality of my work." --Wayne Dyer

"But man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time." --Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Above all, live in the present moment and God will give you all the grace you need." --Fenelon

"By watching the mechanics of the mind, you step out of its resistance patterns, and you can then allow the present moment to be." --Eckhart Tolle

"It's a great thing living in the present. There is less pollution, less anger, lower gas prices, and lots more beer!" --Ray Hudson

Quantities are limited. First come, first served!
RMT
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Ah, but Mr. Rainman, how can you be from my present? I believe that you and I are seperated in spacetime by about 528,000 billionths of a second. If we happen to be moving away from each other (an accelerated frame) you're even farther in my past - by about another nanosecond.

You can't be from the present! You're from the past.
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Darby

Did you take into account altitude? Time does flow slightly faster as distance from the earth increases. Considering that the both of you live in California (lots of mountainous terrane). One of you may be at sufficient altitude to negate the time differential due to distance separation.
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Hi Darby,
Ah, but Mr. Rainman, how can you be from my present?
Most astute of you, sir. Yet you will note that I only claimed to be from "the" present. I cautiously avoided any reference to any specific reference frame, I do believe. Perhaps the "present" that I speak of (and communicate from) is located in a "superframe"?


You can't be from the present! You're from the past.
As long as we are having fun... that sounds like something a spacetime substantivalist would say! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Of course you know that one can shoot a hole or two into that interpretation!

All kidding aside, I appreciate your point, Darby, as it serves as a stepping stone to a principle that I still cling to in my Massive SpaceTime view: Just as we found the error in trying to separate Space from Time, so it is my extended belief that you cannot isolate a SpaceTime manifold from the Matter that warps it without introducing error.

I think we are approaching a "time" where we will finally understand that you cannot separate the observer from the observed without affecting what other observers observe. So is consciousness a naturally emergent property of the Massive SpaceTime tensor field?

RMT
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Rainman,

/ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Thanks for enjoying the humor.

So is consciousness a naturally emergent property of the Massive SpaceTime tensor field?

In fact that's a great question. The Observer and Consciousness.I think that metaphysically a universe with no conscious observer is simply irrelevent unless is is somehow quantum entangled with our universe where we do have conscious observers.

You're also correct about the mass and error involved.

Physicists admit, for instance, that all of the black hole solutions that we presently have and all of the Penrose Diagrams that we draw are based on an idealized frame of reference.

The solutions lend themselves to such possibilities as time travel but the problem comes when they try to formalize the set of formuli such that they are not idealized. If they introduce matter and especially if they introduce other black holes into the Penrose Diagram (which are intentionally left out of the idealized presentation) the manifold either collapses or the exit from the diagram shoots out to the infinite future. When matter other than a massless time traveler (or a photon) is introduced the formalism no longer allows time travel.

If time travel is actually possible I believe that we will one day acheive it. But that day is still a long way off because it really isn't, as yet, a simple engineering problem. We need to find a way to indroduce the entire mass of the universe into the Penrose Diagram in such a way that the exits don't pinch off or take an infinite amount of time to reach.

That's one reason why Titor's method just won't work. He used a black hole but it was located on the Earth - where no matter what he said, extraneous mass and energy will pour across the event horizon and Hawking radiation will heat up the area to millions of degrees.

Now, if we had proper space travel and could find a black hole of sufficient mass and was generally isolated from other stellar "stuff" it should have a very good vacuum surrounding it because it had already sucked in everything in the area that could not escape. And unlike Titor's micro-mass BH we wouldn't have to worry about Hawking Radiation...
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Very interesting post, Darby. I am of the belief that one doesnt necessarily need a black-hole to time travel. As has been posted by myself and others, I believe that the correct combination/manipulation of frequencies of sound and light will result in a vacuum of time and space. A portal if you will...

I dont know how much of the Merkaba information that was posted you have read, but I believe it could be created successfully to time travel.
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

OvLrdLegion,

I believe that the correct combination/manipulation of frequencies of sound and light will result in a vacuum of time and space. A portal if you will

You're on the right track. Part of the answer will come down to vacuum solutions. We can have some very weird (and helpful) phenomena occuring in "perfect" vacuums.

We've already discussed in a general way Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty. It underlies all of QM. It even applies to a "perfect" vacuum.

In Titor's story he and I were discussing the problem of hard gamma ray emissions in the Hawking radiation surrounding his black holes. He gave a quick and dirty, "We control Hawking radiation because no extraneous matter falls into the black hole."

He didn't know what he was talking about.

In a perfect vacuum we are still under the effects of uncertainty. We cannot say that the velocity, charge and mass of the particles in the vacuum are precisely zero. There has to be some uncertainty even if absolutely no particles are present (Did I mention that vacuum solutions can be weird?).

The vacuum is actually boiling with virtual particles. These virtual particles pop into existence and disappear. How do they accomplish this magic? They are created as virtual particle/anti-particle pairs of opposite charge (like an electron and positron). But the energy has to be zero in the real world. So, one of the particles has positive energy, the other has negative energy. One is gravitationally attractive, the other is repulsive (the negative energy particle).

They are created, their opposite charges attract them back to gether and they annihilate. But one had positive energy. The other had exactly the same negative energy. Sum: zero real energy. No problem with energy conservation.

(You might ask what assures that they come back together. Can't they just zip away from each other and avoid annihilation? The answer is generally, no. They have so little energy, almost absolute zero energy, that their velocities are almost zero relative to each other. They simply don't have sufficient velocity to overcome the electrical attraction that brings them into contact.)

These virtual particles are popping in all over the universe - everywhere. They are what becomes Hawking radiation. If you can directly control the virtual pair creation you don't need comething as crude as a black hole. You've already managed to directly manipulate spacetime.

If you introduce a black hole into the vacuum then you have introduced a huge gravitational energy boost at the edge of the event horizon. When the virtual pairs are created in that area they gain huge amounts of energy - enough to become real particles. The positive energy particle can escape from the black hole because it has sufficient energy and velocity to do so. The negative energy particle, instead of speeding up when it gains energy, it slows down (for it to gain energy means that its energy is getting more positive, i.e.approaching zero energy). It then enters the black hole and adds its negative energy to the BH. That's where the evaporation comes from - the negative energy from the heretofore negative energy virtual particle made real due to the massive energy of the gravitational field. Energy = Mass. This speeds up the reaction because the temperature (which is based on the virtual pair creation) is inversely proportional to the surface area of the BH. When it loses mass the radius from the singularity to the event horizon decreases - thus the surface area of the event horizon decreases. The decrease in surface area results in an increase in the rate of virtual pair made real creation. This is a runaway reaction that only gets hotter as time goes forward. Eventually it will liberate the energy of millions of hydrogen bombs in a single instant.

Micro-black holes can't be used for time travel. Not all of the virtual pairs created manage to avoid mutual annihilation. Most of them come back together. But they no longer possess close to zero energy. The sum of their original mass is still zero but the gravitational energy gained is real - and huge. The black hole would not be black. It would be white hot. In the case of the upper limit set by Titor (the mass of a small mountain - he took that ditty directly out of Hawkings "A Brief History of Time" almost verbatim) - the temperature of the BH would be many millions of degrees - and would have a lifetime of about 15 billion years. Not a good thing for Earth to have on-board, let alone two of those suckers.


So, we need a large BH or we need to be able to manipulate the vacuum directly. Huge theoretical and practical problems in either case. The vacuum is a sum zero game. Manipulating it to extract the virtual particles, under most conceivable circumstances, still yields a zero sum game.

But...

That's why there are quite a few real physicists working on the problem and publishing their findings on ArXiv/LANL.. You keep pluging away with well founded and researched ideas, put them out for your collegues to read and comment on and inspire them to take your work just one baby step at a time forward.

We don't know if general relativity actually allows TT. But we won't find the anwer unless we ask the question. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

How is this Hawking radiation issue "helpful"? If you could find a way to harness the micro-black hole and use it for a spaceship's power you really would have an endless supply of virtually free energy - lots of energy - with an exhaust velocity very close to the speed of light.

Now, turning the engine off might be a bit of a problem, Mr. Titor's assertion aside. But you could use it as an expendible booster drive. When you attain the velocity that you desire you cut it loose.

Crude - but effective.

You'd have to have the ability to create another booster at your destination if you wanted to go home at any appreciable velocity.
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Thank-You for the reply. It is interesting that you pointed out something I originally posted in my first draft of my reply and later deleted.

Now, turning the engine off might be a bit of a problem...

Giving this "Merkaba" design alot of thought, I figure that it has alot of potential. The Avatar I use ( the rotating tetrahedrons ) is an example of the formation of different frequencies of light, sound and other frequencies of energy. The portal is theorectically supposed to form in the center of the terahedrons. Basically, an opening into a region (?) that is 'outside' time and space.

Now, assuming this occurs, then what?

If one succeeded in opening a gateway to 'outside' of time and space...how would you control the direction of any craft designed to enter this opening? You would have absolutely no idea where you would be going.

Also, even if the craft did pass through the doorway, what type of conditions would there be if one is outside time and space? Would any propulsion system work in a void of time and space?

I also mentioned in the first version of my reply, that I was warned off of the Merkaba project. I am a tad wary now about doing much more experimentation on the Merkaba. I am not a professional scientist, and playing around with the essence of creation could be dangerous, especially outside of any professionally controlled/monitered environment.
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Which present do you come from? The Birthday present, or the Xmas present? *The resulting rimshot is temporally displaced, so no-one notices it...*
 
Re: Ghost of Christmas Presents!

Which present do you come from? The Birthday present, or the Xmas present? *The resulting rimshot is temporally displaced, so no-one notices it...*
Neither. I am from a present which is much more applicable to temporal dynamics: The Anniversary Present! :D

(Ba-dump-dump....crash!) I decided to make my rimshot noticeable in this board's present.

RMT
 
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