I am a time traveler from the past/present

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Spork

Temporal Novice
Hello from the past. The very near past that is, in fact it is so near that I could just say "hello, from the present." But that seems kinda anti climatic. So I will just say "the past" ok?

Anyway, as you have probably figured out by now, I am a time traveler. I have traveled here from about 3 minutes ago(actually the entire event took place several hours ago). Now I know what you are thinking. You are wondering why a time traveler would choose such a small amount of time to travel through. Surely years, or decades, or even centuries would be far more impressive. But only 3 minutes? C'mon! Well, please allow me to explain.

I will just come out and tell the entire story, then I can answer any questions that you may have.

It began this morning when I awoke from a strange dream.(well not that strange really as all dreams are kinda strange) In my dream I had time traveled into future. Now I can't remember what the future was like or anything because the only part of the dream that I remember is me thinking "so here I am, in the future". This dream got me thinking about time travel and if such a thing is truley possible.

Just as I was thinking that I could probably build a time machine, I suddenly hear a "pop" sound and a "whoosh" in the next room. I go to investigate and there is what is presumably my time machine. I didn't know for sure that that is what it was, but I figured that probability of it being anything else was slim. But given the events of this day, no particular event, no matter how improbable, would suprise me.

I wondered for a moment if I was about to see some other version of myself exit the machine. After a minute or two I decided that the machine must be empty, so I might as well climb in and check it out. I intuitively understood how how to open the machine and use its controls, I figured that must be because I built it myself at some later time.

I started to get real excited! I was anxious to go somewhere, or I should say "somewhen". For safety reasons I decided to limit my travel to today +-100 years(2107-1907). This would be my first trip and I didn't want to take unacceptable risk. I also decided to travel to this same day April 17th, in which ever year I chose. This was because I am lazy and didn't want to come up with a method for choosing a day of the year at random. To determine which year, I first flipped a coin to determine the first value of the four digit year. Heads was one, tails was two. It landed on tails. So I would go to some year after 1999. Excellent.

To stay within the parameters I set before I would flip a coin again to get the second digit of four in the year. Heads was one again, and tails was zero. If heads came up, then it would be the 22nd century sometime between 2100 and 2107, if tails came up it would be some time between 2000 and 2099. I flipped the coin and it was tails. So my destination date up to that point was 20XX.

For the next two digits I would not be able to rely on a coin toss, so I used a 10 sided die instead. So I rolled the die and it landed on zero. Humm... I was a little disappointed because that meant that my time travel would be limited to this decade. But then I thought it may be for the best. After all, I will be more familar with a closer date so I will be less likely to have problems.

Ok, it came time for the final roll. I begain to imagine what it would be like, would I go back to pre-9/11? How strange would it seem to me now? Or would I go foward and see who wins the 2008 election? I was getting really excited now! So I rolled the die and it landed on.........seven. Humm..... Maybe I should have rolled again. But after I got to thinking about it, I decided that traveling a short distance on my first trip would probably be the best course of action, maybe the rolls coming out the way they did was God's or Nature's way of protecting me from myself. Or maybe it was just pure dumb luck.

I climbed into the machine. I look at the control panel and knew immediately how to use it. I decided to make my first trip a test run of a short distance of time and I decided on 3 minutes into the future just to be safe. I activated the machine and with a pop and whoosh I was here, in the future! I climbed out of the machine and looked at the DVD player clock. It was blinking 12:00 because I have never set it. So I looked at the wall clock and sure enough I was about 3 minutes in the future.

Now I wondered if I should bother with traveling back. After all I would only "lose" three minutes or so if I didn't go back, and if I did back I could cause some wierd paradox or something. I knew that the choice was obvious, don't go back! But I couldn't resist the urge to think about it. What if I did meet my younger self? What would really happen? My curiosity was killing me. I set the controls back to when I estimate that I first saw the machine. My heart was pounding! Surely I was not about to try something so foolhardy. I was insane. I don't know why I even considered it. But I decided to do it. I started the squence and then, in fit of panic, I realized just how dangerous this was. What if this version of the time machine occupies the same space and time of the "original"?! Oh my God! It could be a disaster! At the last moment I jumped through the entrance of the machine right before the door closed. In an instant the machine disappeared with its usual poof and whoosh.

After I calmed down a bit I realized what happened. I had just sent the machine back to point where I first encountered it. The loop is complete. But where did come from to begin with? Will I eventually build it? I guess I must because it could not have come from nowhere. But I know that the version that I first encountered this morning was the same machine that I sent back in time later this morning. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
remember this if you are a time traveler then you would have a blueprint to share?? would you? most people who said that I am a time traveler don't share there blueprint so why should be we believe in you?? huh?? so where is the blueprint of this time traveler machine I would like to build one also...write back... /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Sorry Warrior,

I don't have any blueprints because I haven't built the machine yet. Assuming that I was the one who built it. But it looked like something that I could have built. Yea, I am pretty sure that I will build it sometime in the future. Anyway, I could make some MS paint diagrams if you would like.
 
Do some snooping for us in the future.

That’s great that you have a time machine.
Now you can do some search for us of the future.
Do you except request dates for you can go find things like 2008 election result?
No, let start over and plan this.
The best way to do it is the following.
Go to 2012 and get some archived information of old new papers and bring back the CD.
Go there and bring back all sort of CD of information ie) stock data.
You can be our new guru.
So why not stay there for a week.
But the problem is this in 2012 will you still be in your house.
You might pop into someone else house.
So do it in your car.
And when you come back choose a minute later for safety sake.
And don’t forget to take your laptop.
A thing to look for is there a civil war in the states as so many other have predicted.

So what do you think of this proposal?
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Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

I have some issues with this proposal.

I don't have my time machine anymore. I jumped out of it when I panicked and it either went back to earlier this morning or it went to some other time. I am starting to believe that it must have gone to another time. I was fearful when I realized that I had set the machine to take me back to when I first saw it. I was afraid that it would collide with the earlier version of itself. That got me to thinking, when I build it I need to put in a safety control that will not allow it to go the same time and place that its presence has already been logged. Since I have decided to do this, then hopefully the safety mechanism worked as planned and the machine is somewhere safe in time. I will be keeping an eye on my gameroom/garage to see if it appears there again in future. I don't know how long I need to keep that space empty until I can start construction on the machine. That makes me think that I probably sent it to some time after it has been built and destroyed to prevent collision. So I will probably not have access to the machine again until I actually physically build it. Make sense?

I was somewhat surprised by the lack of safety features that I apparently did not put into the machine. For example, the seat was just a simple aluminum aircraft seat with no safety harnesses and I didn't include a motorcycle helmet or anything to protect my head in the event that machine was to encounter an unleveled surface or a change in elevation. But then I got to thinking, maybe I didn't include them because I won't need them. I have already realized the danger of using the machine when I almost got myself killed this morning.

I think the best plan may be to destroy the machine. Now, you may be wondering why I should even build it just to destroy it. Well, I must now build the machine or else I will cause a paradox. Basically I owe the universe a debt, I must now finish the work of building the machine.

My decision to destroy it is not being made lightly. But when I consider the danger involved and the ethical concerns of changing the timeline, if that is even possible, I think it is the only ethical thing to do. I may have inadvertently changed many lives already. But hopefully since I keep the machine inside my own garage it hasn't effected anyone other than myself.

My plan right now is to build the machine, then send it back empty to this morning to avoid paradox. I will program the machine ahead of time to ignore my new settings this morning and instead go back 165 million ago years empty. I thought about sending the machine to some time far in the future to get rid of it. The problem is that I know nothing about the future. I do know something about the distant past however. I know that the area that I live in now is 3000 feet above sea level but was an ocean 165 million years ago. If I send it back to that time it will appear in the sky then drop 3000 feet to the sea below. I will program it to open the door during the fall to insure that it fills with water and sinks. Then over the next 165 million years it will become buried forever in sediment. It amazes me to think that it must be below my feet right now.

Here is the timeline the best I can construct it. But I will review many times between now and the time that I have completed building it so make sure I don't make any mistakes. I must get this right.

165 years before present: the time machine appears in the sky over the ocean and drops to the sea below. The machine is destroyed in the fall and sinks to the sea floor.

165 ybp to this morning: The remains of the machine are buried under 3000 feet of rock.

This morning: a younger version of the machine appears in my gameroom. There are now two versions of the machine in this timeline.

Approx ten minutes after the machine appears: I use the machine to travel 3 minutes into the future. One version of the machine disappears from the timeline.

3 minutes later: the machine reappears in the timeline. I exit the machine and make note of the time. I then get back into the machine program it to return approx 13 minutes into the past. I panic and leave the machine. The machine safety control kicks in and reprograms itself to go 165 mybp. The machine once again disappears from the timeline.

unknown amout of time in the future: I build the machine to send it back to April 17th, 2007.

I know many will be disappointed with my decision to destroy the machine. But it is the right choice. I was reading on this very forum after I made my original post. One poster was asking for help from time travelers. It is not practical for me to help and probably not ethical. I can risk my own life but I want no part of putting others in harms way. Also I worry about paradox and changing peoples lives. What right do I have to change the past(assuming that it is even possible)? I simply do not know what may happen and I am not willing to take the risk any further, like I said, I almost screwed the pooch already, I am obviously not responsible enough to have this technology. I was going to post my ideas here and maybe some drawings, but even that may not be ethical. I will not try to discourage anyone else from time travel as we all have freewill but I also will not assist anyone in such an endeavor.
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

I did not get your plan yet the MS paint plan?? send it to me private Warrior381 or my email address ok byee and I await for it...
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

You didn't get the MS Paint plan yet because I haven't sent it yet. In fact I haven't even made it yet. In fact, I may not make it at all. In my post above I explained why I have ethical concerns about sharing information about the machine.

Last night I dreamed about time travel once more. I my dream the machine reappeared in my garage/gameroom. I remembered my plan to destroy it but instead I decided that I would just make one more trip in the machine. I climb in and set the target date to 2012. Then I awoke.

This dream demonstrates that I cannot resist the temptation to use the machine. It must be destroyed as soon as reasonably possible.

I have marked off the area where the machine was with tape. I must be very careful to never put anything into space in case the machine returns. Also I am starting to realize the difficulty of designing the machine in the first place. In order to eliminate un-necessary complications I plan to design the machine to maintain a constant frame of reference with respect to the first 3 deminsions and allow movement only in the 4th. All other dimensions will be ignored. Another problem that is already cropping up is what kind of time should I use for coordinates. Each method of measuring time has it limitations that can lead to inaccuracies. Over a short amount of time they are negligable, but over large amouts of time they become very significant. I have an atomic clock in my gameroom that gets its time from the atomic clock in Colorado. I think I will use this as my standard unless there is some reason not to.
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

Hi Spork I'm Doggie I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions so here they are and I am a believer so you can trust me I believe that time travel, teleportation, and etc are all true I have been studying the paranormal for six to seven years so I know about it also I like to read, write, and draw well here are my questions and thanks for answering them for me:

1. Where from? How old?

2. What kind and type of time machine was it you traveled in too in our timeline?

3. Were you trying to go to the past or future or both in your time machine?

4. What kinds of hobbies or skills do you have?

thanks for your time and patience and thanks for listening and I hope you have a good day and thanks in advance and so much more and thanks for everything well I will talk with you later on!
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

Hi Doggie,

1. I am from Texas, U.S.A. and I am 35 years old. I was born in 1971.

2. Well your timeline is also my timeline, I think. But anyway, my time machine was of the homemade variety. I don't know yet exactly how it works because I haven't built it yet. My older self apparently sent the machine back to me now so that I could use it. Now, I don't have access to things like micro-scopic black holes or fusion power generators so my machine must use more mundane equipment to achieve time travel. It appeared to be made of standard oil field surplus type stuff. An old lpg tank, some old home computers, an aluminum aircraft seat, some big semi batteries, and someone unknown stuff that I didn't get a good look at.

3. The one time that I used the machine I was trying to go to the future, 3 minutes into the future to be exact. Based on the time readings on my wall clock I was successful.

4. For hobbies, I study martial arts (Tukong Moosul), brew my own beer, grow peppers in my garden, and am learning to pilot small aircraft( a Cessna 150).

For skills. I am pretty good at playing poker, esp Texas hold'em, am competent with computers but not an expert or 1337 haxor, and I worked for about 10 years in an R&D lab for a chemical company so I am not bad basic laboratory methods. For example, I know how to use analyses like gas chromatography, atomic absorption, nuclear magnetic resonance imaging,infrared spectroscopy and others.
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

Spork
Hi Spork it's me once again I just wanted to say thanks for the fast reply back to me I appreciate that I have three more questions to ask you so here they are and thanks for answering my other three questions as well and thanks for being cool and honest to me well here goes:

1. Will your past, present, and future self know about what your doing right now and later on?

2. Do paradoxes exist while you time travel or not at all through all timelines?

3. What did you see and hear from you visiting the three mins into the future?

thanks for your time and patience and thanks for listening I hope you have a great day and most time travelers don't talk very much to me because they are time travelers or have things to do but thanks in advance and thanks for chatting with me I hope you will be able to travel to the past and future later on well I have to leave now I will talk with you later see ya later!
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

Hi Doggie,

1. My past self did not know what my present self and future self have done or will do. My present self knows what my past self has done and what my present self is doing but not what my future self will do. My feture self will presumably know about everything that my present self and past have done.

2. So far there have been no paradoxes, but I worry about them.

3. Not much really. I arrived in the future, exited the time machine and looked at the clock. So basically I saw a clock and heard normal noises, i.e. traffic outside, birds, dogs barking etc. that sort of thing.

See ya later Doggie

EDIT: Actually now that I think about it, everything I have experienced since yesterday morning counts as stuff that I saw and heard in the future because I have not gone back to those 3 minutes of the past. Unsurprisingly this future is remarkably similar to past.
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

Hello Spork, nice to meet you.

I'm from Malaysia. I am a believer in time travel, hope to chat with you later.
And hope our dream will come true. :oops:
 
Re: Do some snooping for us in the future.

Hello Crossroad,

sure we can chat sometime, providing of course that I am not too busy building the machine, which lately have not been because I havn't actually started on it yet. And so far it still has not reappeared in my gameroom/garage. I did decide to mark off the area though. I fugure I better keep that space free and clear of clutter just in case.
 
G’day Spork,
I don’t think that you will ever see that time machine again.
I mean this, when you got it (or you found it) you didn’t know where it came from right?
But once you sent it back to 3 min’s earlier you realised that you sent it back to your self. Question answered and mystery over. There you have it, a time loop that continues in the temporal forever. You are now out of the time loop and can continue on with your life as normal, just as if it never happened in the first place. In fact you should just believe that it never happened at all. I find these things easier to accept that way!
:D
 
Spork
Hi Spork it's me once again I just wanted to say so how are you doing in general? I am doing good for now so what have you been doing lately? I have been doing research and other stuff as well I saw lady in the water and dreamland they were both okay movies have you seen any movies or tv lately? also how is your project working out for you? I believe that one day everyone will be able to time travel and teleport as well I know many people are working on devices and other things as well to establish time travel and other subjects too I hope we chat again I am a cool and interested person in the paranormal well I will see ya later and thanks for listening!
 
Lol, this is one of the biggest pieces of BS ever, bring back Javier all is forgiven..
Did make me spit my coffe out with laughter though lol
 
Hey Doggie,

I am well. I have also seen Lady in Water and a number of other movies lately. The last one that I have seen was Blades of Glory. Its a silly movie but I enjoyed it. I would have responded to you sooner but I have been out of town. I am researching some ideas for my time machine so I went to Georgia to see a "real civil war era time machine" in a museum there. It wasn't even a real time machine, but just a locamotive. It was kinda cool though. I have been doing alot reading about physics so I can figure this time travel thingie out. Stay cool Doggie,

TTYL
Spork
 
Hi Shadow,

I agree that this is a remarkable and highly improbable story but I can only tell it as I recall it. Who is Javier?
 
Spork
Hi Spork it's me once again I just wanted to say what have you been doing lately? I have been good for now just reading, writing, playing games and watching movies and tv and etc. I am reading up on wormholes and vortexes that will be my research for now then I will move on to something else I hope your project turns out fine or good keep me updated on what your doing how are you doing otherwise? I haven't bought any books or movies because my computer went out a couple of days ago but now I have mine back so we can talk anytime what kind of research are you doing? well I have to go now so I will talk with you later on and thanks for your time and patience well see ya later!
 
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