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TimeTravelActivist

Dimensional Traveler
No, not a pride issue, but an issue of fact.

Has it not accrued to anyone that since 9/11 our First Amendment has changed?

We have created exceptions to it, altering it in ways that betray what it’s true meaning was suppose to mean.

I make it a point to remind people of these things I think we are over looking. Not to dictate, but to make you aware. It’s us who decide what direction to take society, and someday we will vote on Time Travel.

The inevitable potential of the Temporal Sciences, mainly its application use are what motivates the TTA to be out spoken about it. It’s the basic fundamental principle by which we have founded this country, slowly but surely we are changing and forgetting that.

The ends does not justify the means… And someday that will mean nothing to some, and that will be the greatest hypocrisy of all.

-TTA
 
Yes CAT, I can see that you know where I am coming from with this. It’s manipulation; control. And I am only trying to emphasize the principle of how wrong it is, and many forget that for the sake of just wanting to improve one another or justify something to our selfish advantage.

If this keeps being the case, in the future few will protest and say: “at one point in our past, this was considered wrong, to only now being an accepted way of life. Where did we go wrong? What happened that allowed us to change and follow what our leaders proposed?”

That is why the TTA does not rule out the possibility that future man won’t use it’s technology to exploit and erase it’s past mistakes.

How can others who can conceive and claim to see a much larger picture not take into account this possible variable, is just beyond me
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-TTA
 
Yes! It is heartening to see a citizen in the true sense of the word speaking out! As citizens, it is our job to be aware of what our governing body is doing, and presently I count myself among those, like yourself, who are concerned about infringment upon our civil liberties. It is ironic that these measures are being undertaken to supposedly protect us, whilst they endanger directly the precepts of which we are trying to protect. But, what does this really have to do with time travel? I wonder if the decision to undertake time travel, if it ever does become within the abilities of the inhabitants of terra firma, should be decided democratically. Seems to me the inevitable difficulties and risks of time paradox and the like would have to be soundly judged safe.
 
Friends of TR125.0121 you who are denouncing the effects of your government over the true will of the people, you who dare not be scorned by other and you who rightfully challenge those who oppose the true meaning of life, liberty, are worthy of admiration and respect. Yes, your ruling bodies are changing, but this is not new, it has been taking place for a long time but only now those changes are more apparent, seemingly uncalculated and rough. However do not dismay, for there are as many ill minded as there are good hearted. The conflict behind the desks and ceilings shall be a long one but one worth the effort. Although it will take years in your reality it will have an end and a most favorable one for your kind. By the end of 23nd century of your temporal axis political changes will mature into a new world order, one of wisdom, charity and selfless love. In this new world the people shall live as one and only then shall you ever know the wonders of time phasing.
However , time travelers, you should all be aware that in order for things to get better there most be space for things to be broken, for only then can people really understand that there present way of life is no longer a valid one. So it was sad what happened a year ago in your temporal axis but rest asure that things could only become better. Never fear, the time line is safe as long as there are agents from Central phasing back, forth and sideways to ensure our security by interdicting temporal zones of the myraid realities.
 
Wackadoo! The end of the 23rd century (in my time axis, of course) sounds wonderful: wisdom, charity and selfless love. If only I could live long enough to be apart of this time of illumination, alas. Only time will tell.

As far as geopolitics, and the condition of our national governing regime right now; the climate of these mechanisms of socialability tend to swing back and forth, pendulum-like. This in itself, assures me that eventually resolution will occur in a positive fashion.
 
Transient001,
Why do you talk like that? Who are you trying to impress?

<<Although it will take years in your reality it will have an end and a most favorable one for your kind>>

Right... our reality and our kind if separate from yours obviously.

<<By the end of 23nd century of your temporal axis political changes will mature into a new world order, one of wisdom, charity and selfless love. In this new world the people shall live as one and only then shall you ever know the wonders of time phasing.>>

The TTA's translation: an era of manipulation, where the end's to achieve this state of being justifies the means. Which is by returning to the origins of it's conception and altering it.

Life becomes then a hypocrisy. Sustained only by it's principles to survive, but perverted enough to not care how it does it. Even at the expense of others.

<<However , time travelers, you should all be aware that in order for things to get better there most be space for things to be broken, for only then can people really understand that there present way of life is no longer a valid one.>>

Exactly... Break a few eggs to make an omelet?

Every war needs a few martyrs?

Sure, there can be many ways of cleverly excusing it. But no matter how much you delude it with inspirational words of acceptance, the truth still stands. A manipulated event where your rights of freedom and independence were overlooked, only to benefit something greater where over time your individual rights will cease to be significant enough to matter in times of choice.

The ends, does not justify the means. I don't care how you get it done; you don't control people to get your way, especially if you don't have their consent. That is basically wrong.

Or is common sense of knowing that fact, not something that's common enough?

-TTA
 
Friend TimeTravelActivist, I was not really trying to impress anyone, that is not my intention, nor it is important to me what you make out of myself, however you should really try to see beyond your own concepts, accept diversity and different thoughts, trust more, we of all species have some much potential ahead of us but we must learn to accept each other as an integral part of ourselves. That is not manipulation but devotion to the human miracle.
About the way a write, remember my friend that communication is an artform, and as all arts it should be done with great care, you of all people should know that this art form must be carefully cultivated and practiced, for words are the only true tools that a human being really has.
 
Transient001,
<<Friend TimeTravelActivist, I was not really trying to impress anyone, that is not my intention, nor it is important to me what you make out of myself>>

Friend? I don't think we were ever introduced Mr. Transient001. In order for me to call someone my friend, I have to know them a little longer then say, 1 post
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This assumption that I would welcome you with open arms so easily only adds to my suspicions of your sincerity /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

<<however you should really try to see beyond your own concepts, accept diversity and different thoughts, trust more>>

See beyond my own concepts? Excuse me Transient001, but like I said we were never introduced, so you don't know me and my "concepts." Unless your a past poster who has had a run in with the TTA once or twice /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

<<we of all species have some much potential ahead of us but we must learn to accept each other as an integral part of ourselves. That is not manipulation but devotion to the human miracle. >>

Sure I'm all for diverse ideas and acceptance of those differences (except New Age), but we should also try and keep in mind the principles of freedom, freewill & independence, not a unification of those rights to serve a justified hypocrisy of it.

What your suggesting is just the very reason why Time Travel will work, because we are united so much to be governed as 1 race 1 people, 1 decision is all that is needed. But given many, and scattering the power of control, we ensure our freedom and independence as a people to go on for centuries un-exploited.

That is all I am trying to get across here, to be weary of the potential that can manipulate you and strip you away of your God given rights.

<<About the way a write, remember my friend that communication is an artform>>

Please, spare me with that friend crap... This board has had it's share of people (with hidden agenda's and facades) who come here and speak in grandiose terms of them selves. Who's only intention is to elevate their status by flattery and assuming a higher intelligence among the rest of us.

Let me just remind you "friend" that all who think they can get away with b.s. will be exposed /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif courtesy of yours truly.

Hey I only call'em how I see'em. That's been my philosophy from the very beginning here.

Yours sounds a bit familiar too... Darby
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<<and as all arts it should be done with great care, you of all people should know that this art form must be carefully cultivated and practiced, for words are the only true tools that a human being really has. >>

And your point was? Thanks for the introduction to Comm 101. But I think I will skip school today, I gotta get me a little shut eye
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-TTA
 
Friend TimeTravelActivist, to start with something I would adhere and maintain to the practice of treating all those that I encounter as Friends, that is not to harbor a hidden agenda but simple plain courtesy. To do the contrary is to invite disaster into our lives, foster ill will and ultimately bring about evil to our world.
All this time I have only expressed my point as any other would do, yet you keep over-reacting to my comments, even making fun of me treating all, not just you, as my friends, well....this attitude reminds me of the time phasing rogue Algorans of TR105.7845, they were brute, rough and very, very bad tempered. One either accepts their point as one´s new philosophy or simply get ready to go down the event horizon of the nearest black hole.
Well all this time I have said that you must live as one, I am not reffering to wide known and controversial concept of Asimov´s GAIA, that would be too easy.
No what I mean TimeTravel Activist is to live in a world where everyone is free to do whatever they will but still respect the will of the other, more like a democracy were both majority and minority both wins, just in case you doubt this form of government ever existed, it did by 350 B.C. in Greece.
The problem was that no one really wanted to waste time by agreeing and they all resorted to simply impose the will of the many over the will of the few, yet today we call that civilization and society.
Before I go one last thought, maybe you don´t like me because I could be you in 25 years... then again maybe not.
 
Transient001,
<<Friend TimeTravelActivist, to start with something I would adhere and maintain to the practice of treating all those that I encounter as Friends, that is not to harbor a hidden agenda but simple plain courtesy. To do the contrary is to invite disaster into our lives, foster ill will and ultimately bring about evil to our world.>>

Right... Okay friend, so it's by your proper etiquette and respect that you have for others that you have come here to speak to us in this manner, and educate us about the "evil" of the world, and we aren't suppose to wonder or be suspicious of your weird freaky vibes /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif merely because being anything other then normal is evil?

Oh yeah, I can tell the TTA is going to have lots of fun with this one
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<<All this time I have only expressed my point as any other would do, yet you keep over-reacting to my comments, even making fun of me treating all, not just you, as my friends>>

Like I said we have never met, how can I keep over reacting to your comments and making fun of you, if this is simply my 2nd reply to you. Unless of course your Creedo, then I can see why /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

<<well....this attitude reminds me of the time phasing rogue Algorans of TR105.7845, they were brute, rough and very, very bad tempered. >>

Right... I'm brute and rough, and very bad tempered. And Creedo wasn't? Did he not wish to condemn all life here and sell it out to the Aliens?

<<One either accepts their point as one´s new philosophy or simply get ready to go down the event horizon of the nearest black hole. >>

Hey if you're feeling that your points aren't being considered, why not just say so. Why the façade? I can see both sides to an issue. But if you're expecting someone to buy into your twisted alien philosophy, get ready to be taken to the "nearest black hole" with shear common sense.

<<Well all this time I have said that you must live as one, I am not reffering to wide known and controversial concept of Asimov´s GAIA, that would be too easy. No what I mean TimeTravel Activist is to live in a world where everyone is free to do whatever they will but still respect the will of the other, more like a democracy were both majority and minority both wins, just in case you doubt this form of government ever existed, it did by 350 B.C. in Greece. The problem was that no one really wanted to waste time by agreeing and they all resorted to simply impose the will of the many over the will of the few, yet today we call that civilization and society. >>

Thanks for the history brush up, so I guess you can substitute for either a communications and history class
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<<Before I go one last thought, maybe you don´t like me because I could be you in 25 years... then again maybe not. >>

I never said I didn't like you. The only person that I know of, that could make such an assumption like that with anyone is Creedo. And God forbid I ever become like you in 25 years /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif. I have a lot to look forward to, being a sell out of humanity is not one of them.

-TTA
 
Friend TimeTravelActivist, I´m starting to believe that there is no way to make peace with you. I am not the person named by you as Creedo nor am I alien, and I would definetely not sell out Humanity. You kind of remind me of a quote by Frederick Nietche, "Behold man you do not become that which you yourself are fighting back." Finally I am not trying to proselitize anyone, I myself belong to no religious congregation, I just simply try to live fully observing and recording for the true benefit of lifekind.
one final piece of advice ; you should practice being more trusting, reasonable and less violent, for if you did not know you can still be assertive without being aggressive
Until later becomes now.
 
Transient001,
<<Friend TimeTravelActivist, I´m starting to believe that there is no way to make peace with you.>>

Haha /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif you amuse me. If by make peace, you mean to stop my astute approach of exposing you after only 2 posts, then you my "friend" are absolutely correct.

<<I am not the person named by you as Creedo nor am I alien, and I would definetely not sell out Humanity>>

Well then if that is the case, you sure give up easily when confronted with resistance. Creedo held out for weeks of exposure until he cried uncle. And here you are after only 3 days, approaching this forum with this facade, and already crying and whining that I am making fun of you. Please Transient001, your pathetic... Looking back at the last 4 posts we've had you can plainly see I did no such thing /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif. But only state the facts.

<<I myself belong to no religious congregation, I just simply try to live fully observing and recording for the true benefit of lifekind.>>

Good for you /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif I guess over the next few months of posting here we'll all get to see for sure how much you sincerely wish to benefit "lifekind" whatever the heck that is.

<<one final piece of advice ; you should practice being more trusting, reasonable and less violent, for if you did not know you can still be assertive without being aggressive
Until later becomes now.>>

Right... okay. You sure told me.

Not /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

-TTA
 
Pamela,
Haha :D I can't help it, it's my job. If they have their stories well thought out and feel confident that they can have people buy into it so easily, then why not give them a challenge and truly see if it stands up to debate and questioning?

After all, how easy would it be for them to have people just roll over their words like it's some gospel without complete consideration that they are merely being lied to? I don't know about you, but I don't think we need to go through that big mess again
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-TTA
 
P.S. whoever sent me the hate mail, thanks it was really funny :D. Sounds like a 5th grader wrote it, very immature and cute. I'm glad someone out there is enjoying my posts
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Transient,

When you quoted above the controversial concept of Asimov´s GAIA. This is all about Eugenics and mitochondroial sequencing and intelligent microbes taking over peoples brains! :eek:

And here I thought Elvis had left the Genome!


Do you really think that this neolithic revolution realy has the potential to be the potentila of the 21st century?


CAT...
 
Friend CAT of TR125.0121

I simply mentioned the subject, is not that I am in favor of it. On the contrary, GAIA is a Hive like entity-mind who has a link to every single being around her and their individuality is intricately joined to that of every one else's. That would be slavery of the mind, I am not in favor of that.
What I really meant it is that there was a group of people, a society somewhere in time/space that actually achieved to be sensitive to their surroundings but kept their individuality untouched. They became good people CAT, not like us, they stopped their quarrels, the bickering and the unhealthful debate and conflicts. They truly worked as one and by so doing they realized after many centuries of social and technological revolution that there was something beyond, something that surrounded everything, a dimension of light, a dimension which exist outside the natural order...from where one could travel in time.
Although their advances in science were great, what really aided them was the great changes that were tasking place in each individual consciousness. With their consciousness ready to receive, insight kept arriving unhampered. That is what I really want for this Earth. However I am not in a position to make any changes.
CAT, I have heard of one too many places that tried the GAIA concept and although they had a good start they ultimately failed.
Knowing this I would not even dream recommending the global experiment to anyone, not even TimeTravelActivist. Thus my stance in not changing anything, just adhere to my recording device and keep doing my assigned task.
About the Prime Temporal Point, yes it is from where everything stemmed out, it is the true center, the epicenter of creation and it sits, as I said before, outside the natural order. It can be reached by both scientifical as well as spiritual ways for at its very core both disciplines are one and the same.
Some day I might tell more about the intricate lattice that conform the timescape and the Prime Temporal Point but for now I feel that It should be kept silent. The incredible WARM welcome that I received from some of your kind its a clear signal of what I should not do.
However I am not worried, nor uneased by this, I simply understand. I know that there are plenty of unspeakable horrors lurking in the dark reaches of space and time and you have to take your precautions. I understand.
Until later becomes now...Archibald the Transient.
 
Transient,
"They truly worked as one and by so doing they realized after many centuries of social and technological revolution that there was something beyond, something that surrounded everything, a dimension of light, a dimension which exist outside the natural order...from where one could travel in time."

I would like to know more about this dimension of light.
Have you ever been in it personally? If so Please describe it to me in detail. How do you enter it? How do you exit it?
What happens to everything around you?
 
Woooh there Pamela, relax a little. Sounds like we're getting all fanatical all over again
. Or have we forgotten what happened the last time you looked up to someone's scientific words like a gospel?

-TTA
 
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