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Irish company challenges scientists to test 'free energy' technology

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060818/bs_af...ndscienceenergy

http://www.steorn.net

Fox News 28th of August 2006. Neil C interviews CEO of Irish Company Steorn that have invented
a FREE ENERGY WORKING DEVICE.

See it here at http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=710

Here is a video from them: http://www.steorn.net/media/downloads/steo...ovie_medium.wmv

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And this also!

Watch our introduction video now to get an impression what our cosmic water cell is all about. The cosmic water cell will provide for free energy that will render petrol useless. Can you imagine your car running on our free energy? Could this really be done? Be your own judge and watch this video.

Free Energy is Here from Australia! 8 and 1/2 minute video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2739463467621665044&q=label%3Abyron+new+energy

Cosmic water cell news
From BNE
BYRON NEW ENERGY developed free-energy cosmic water cell

In spring 2005, Sol Millin formed a research group in the exotic Byron Bay area in Australia and called it ‘Byron New Energy’ or BNE for short. Sol Millin’s intention was to develop free energy for the world and as we can reed from BNE’s mission statement their aim is ‘to establish a not for profit humanitarian group’. In order to achieve this goal BNE has adopted the ‘open source’ approach of sharing their research and technology freely on a Wiki based website, that allows everybody to publish information and share their contributions and in doing so become a member of the BNE community.


In September 2005 Sol Millin launched his next initiative to round up a community of researchers and scientists that could contribute to BNE’s goal to develop free energy for the world. This resulted in Daniel Winter’s support to this group.


Today BNE is proud to present the first results of our quest to achieve ‘non polluting free energy for the future’. BNE has developed what is called a cosmic water cell that harnesses a new form of energy from its environment and that can be used to power a combustion engine and run a car. Basically all the cell contains is three concentric stainless steal electrodes submerged in plain water. The outer electrode is the anode and the inner electrode is the cathode, the centre electrode is neutral. The cell is charged with a 12V DC power supply for only a few minutes. As expected a normal electrolyses process is initiated but remarkably enough a new kind of energizing process seems to continue even when the power supply is switched off. According to the original inventor, a man who does not want to be identified other that by his first name Joe, the cell starts ‘charging’ energy from the cosmos all by itself. After a few days of ‘cosmic charging’, the cell will contain ‘charged water’ that can be used.


BNE is able to demonstrate that a car can be powered with this ‘charged water’. No direct fuel injection is required, the output of the cell is simply attached to a bulge on the carburettor using a rubber hose. With the fuel line disconnected, the car can be started and will run on this new form of energy.


BNE has no explanation why the car runs on this energy, but since the engine runs smoothly only when the timing of the ignition is advanced, it may be an indication that it is using some kind of implosion rather than the ordinary explosion principle that we would expect from a combustion engine.


During the ‘cosmic charging’ process different kind of gases have been observed, including hydrogen. The ‘charged water’ has strange properties, the strangest being its ability to burn when ignited! Whether it’s the hydrogen in the water or the water itself that’s providing the fuel is unsure, but it may well be that this water is releasing its collected cosmic energy in a process we observe as oxidation or burning.


BNE is also able to demonstrate at least one more strange property of this ‘charged water’ in a ‘don’t try this at home’ type of experiment. When this water was poured straight into the carburettor of a running car, the engine kept running! Since water is incompressible one would expect the conrods of the engine to snap when the piston attempts to compress the fluid in the compression stroke. However the engine of Sol Millin’s old Subaru kept purring like a cat being stroked.


From our current scientific understanding cars are not supposed to run on water, however BNE’s experiments are real and can be reproduced. As far as the motives of BNE, one can rest assured they have a positive intention of delivering this free energy truly free! Why, because BNE has openly published all its findings on their website to make sure that this technology cannot be patented by big industrial companies that would once again, charge the community for energy that in reality is free.


BNE is inviting scholars and researchers worldwide to investigate this new form of energy and reproduce the results of what we expect will one day revolutionize the world. BNE is also looking for investors to finance our research lab in Byron Bay.


March 9, 2006 Jan Wicherink ...rmd

Retrieved from http://www.byronnewenergy.com/wiki/index.php/Cosmic_water_cell_news

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Read the above then watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8563384677838829514
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Ok, you guys are smart, So what's all this about then? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Re: Free Energy! What\'s your opinion?

Ya, if it is considered to be free energy, then someone will find a way to charge for it.

So much for free then.
 
Re: Free Energy! What\'s your opinion?

Hi nitescott,

First of all, your links don't work without having to "doctor" them, and the ones with "..." do not work at all. You might check into fixing them.

Second, the guys at steorn are at least approaching this correctly in that they are NOT holding their hand out for money right from the get-go (as virtually ALL "free energy" nutjobs do). Whether they have something or not, only Time will tell, and it seems there are plenty of people willing to take them up on their challenge. Let's keep an eye out to see how these tests go.

Third, the "Byron New Energy" propaganda sets off my crackpot-o-meter almost immediately! It is too much about telling us how wonderful their technology is, and not ENOUGH of the "we are opening our doors for the world to test our technology" aspect. Honestly, if you can hook-up this "fuel" of theirs to a normal carburetor, and all you have to do to make the engine run off of it is advance the timing, it ought to be awfully simply to analyze the energy content of their "fuel"! I mean, it IS still a good old internal combustion engine, and we know very well the four thermodynamics phases involved in the Otto Cycle that extracts power from such engines.

But for right now, the engineer in me still abides by and believes the Law of Conservation of Energy. No one has, as yet, openly demonstrated any device which can violate this law.

RMT
 
Re: Free Energy! What\'s your opinion?

I looked at this company

I can't even find it on wikipedia or stock exchange? Then again is free no? can you find a non biased link?

I agree, we as a society are addicted to oil , and I am surprised that with today's technology
we cannot have more fuel efficient cars or use another energy source such as:

- Solar
- Electrical (high efficiency) <-- Common super conductors where are you?
- Ethanol (Brazil is doing it)
- Fusion
- Nuclear (ok i pushed the envelope)

In my opinion greed keeps us from advancing in this field, I hope Im wrong.
 
Re: Free Energy! What\'s your opinion?

wa1ex,

Its not surprising that you don't find a Wiki reference or the company on a public stock exchange. Getting a company on a public stock exchange takes money, a track record, inverstors and a viable product or service.

This "water" carbuerator idea is not new. Its been a scam product for many years - and it doesn't work. I think that there's an episode of MythBusters that took on this product (from another sham company) and it did just about what you would expect: nothing.

A gasoline motor will not run on water. You can inject water vapor into a running gasoline motor and get a rather substantial power boost (until the engine melts down that is).

During WWII the P-51, P-47, F4U, F6F, Bf-109, FW-190, Spitfire Mk VIII and several other fighters utilized water or water/ethanol injection to execute emergency escape power for cases where they were jumnped from behind and couldn't clear six (get them off their butt). Kick ass power boost - but the engine would come unglued in short order if the pilot didn't cut off the water injection.
 
Re: Free Energy! What\'s your opinion?

Yeah when I was a kid in highschool I remember seeing ads in popular mechanics saying "water powered engines" Schematics for sale at $5 dollars....I bet you that same add still there.... /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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