Fatal Flaw in Jonh Titor's Reason for time Travel.

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MrMunt

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Fatal Flaw in Jonh Titor\'s Reason for time Travel.

OK, so I read the posts by the supposed "time traveler" John Titor. He claims that his reason for traveling was to obtain antiquated computer technology.

"On my worldline, it is known that the 5100 series is capable of reading IBM code written before the widespread use of APL and Basic. Unfortunately, there are none left that anyone can find on my world line."

It would not require time travel to solve that problem. In fact going back in time to get the machine would be a less than ideal solution. Since the objective is to read antiquated IBM code, all they need to do is write a simple emulator for the machine, that could be run on a more advanced system. This is exactly what is being done today with MAME. MAME is an emulator for antiquated arcade / console platforms which can run on any modern OS. Considering the technology he's after originates from 1975 suggests that it's low order complexity would make it quite simple to emulate on a modern computer system. Anyone with a degree in computer / electrical engineering will be able to back this up. It's a pretty simple concept.

Sorry, that's just not a good enough reason to "disrupt the timeline" so to speak.

I hope none of you people out there actually bought into any of this crap.
 
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K, so I read the posts by the supposed "time traveler" John Titor. He claims that his reason for traveling was to obtain antiquated computer technology.

"On my worldline, it is known that the 5100 series is capable of reading IBM code written before the widespread use of APL and Basic. Unfortunately, there are none left that anyone can find on my world line."

It would not require time travel to solve that problem. In fact going back in time to get the machine would be a less than ideal solution. Since the objective is to read antiquated IBM code, all they need to do is write a simple emulator for the machine, that could be run on a more advanced system. This is exactly what is being done today with MAME. MAME is an emulator for antiquated arcade / console platforms which can run on any modern OS. Considering the technology he's after originates from 1975 suggests that it's low order complexity would make it quite simple to emulate on a modern computer system. Anyone with a degree in computer / electrical engineering will be able to back this up. It's a pretty simple concept.

Sorry, that's just not a good enough reason to "disrupt the timeline" so to speak.
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Finally somebody comes along that knows what they are talking about and how to explain it. More proof that Titor was a a fake. I myself have run the imulator hercules to imulate a IBM mainframe on my desktop pc. If I can imulate a mainframe on my pc in Titors time that can run a imulator on their machines. The hercules project which I used on my pc im not sure I would have to check might be capable of taking care of Titors needs. Why could they not do that in 2036?
 
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Finally somebody comes along that knows what they are talking about and how to explain it. More proof that Titor was a a fake. I myself have run the imulator hercules to imulate a IBM mainframe on my desktop pc. If I can imulate a mainframe on my pc in Titors time that can run a imulator on their machines. The hercules project which I used on my pc im not sure I would have to check might be capable of taking care of Titors needs. Why could they not do that in 2036?
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Sorry but you "can not" emulate the Golden Chips/NASA CHIPS of the First Generation...

These codes are...

more at:
PRO7 Legacy... /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif
 
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First off we aren't talking about some secret black project hardware here. This was a commercially available product with standard components. The processor in the system was a 16-bit IBM PALM processor. Here is a link to the list of opcodes for the 5100. Combined with the specs on memory, that's really all you need in order to create the emulator.
http://computermuseum.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/dev/ibm_5110/technik/en/
 
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his was a commercially available product with standard components. The processor in the system was a 16-bit IBM PALM processor.
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Please try to "emulate this specific claim of PRO7 using a IBM5100 that had the Golden Chips!!!

All I can tell you regarding the IBM 5100 machine is listed below:


1. IBM 5100 Emulation design has a reversable binarial capability. Modern computers do not have this capability. You may need to study this yourself what this means. Do not let other "experts" tell you otherwise what it means. This "reversable binary language" concept was never taught in computer science courses in school or college, except only the direct aspect of the binary language being taught as if it is a "true" universal language. In computer science courses or books written anywhere, has no indication of such "reversable binary language".

2. IBM was under a possible secret military contract at the time of the development of the IBM 5100 machine hence "Project Mercury". IBM quickly designed the IBM 5110 computer version which suspiciously no longer have the reversible binarial capability. They did add some stuff to the 5110 version to make it look like it was enhanced. I do still believe that this military contract is still top secret. *why do you think it was called the Emulation 360?* (in math you can consider 360 as a "turn around or degrees")

There you go.. The original IBM 5100 machine was a experiment, possibly a military-government experiment at personal computing. Now look at what we have today... we got extreme fast machines now.


and

Yea.. Why would anyone do that?????
When I first took apart the 5100 machine from it's "seams", in the very thought of my mind popped up "what the heck is that doing there?"... I had it analyzed and yes it is a form of a dielectric film.

I peeled both dielectric films off of both "chips" and found:

1st "chip" has a star symbol on it. Its a small imprint of a star. The 2nd "chip" has a imprint of "BL1" I was puzzled... why would anyone in the world would want to imprint a inscription of a small star and 2 letters and a number???? I went through all other boards, they didnt have any other unusual imprints. I did research on these imprints and made a bizarre discovery. All you need to do is to type "BL1" in google.com. Do the research for yourself. As a warning, do not jump to conclusions... I have no more to explain.
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and in the name of Science, post your results in a new thread on

Real Science Thread!!! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Just to compare to the claims of
PRO7

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Pro7 presented nothing that was of any veridical value.

Mr Munt is correct, and is saying what I have been saying all along. The emulation of the IBM 5100 is trivial. And Pro7 could not, and did not, present anything "special" about the PROMS he claims are special.

RMT
 
Re: Fatal Flaw in Jonh Titor\'s Reason for time Travel.

MrMunt,

Since the objective is to read antiquated IBM code, all they need to do is write a simple emulator for the machine, that could be run on a more advanced system.
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Precisely. In the context of Titor's Saga they have developed smaller than laptop PC's that can fit into his black box along with a nuclear reactor, cyclotron, two black hole confinment vessels and a battery to power it all. This PC is so powerful that it can simultaneously run the nav system to traverse a wormhole, manage the confinement, manage and manipulate spacetime geometry to form a stable micro-mass black hole (actually two of those puppies), manage the nuclear reactor, manage the cyclotron, manage the electron injection system at the quantum level, run the Wiggle VGL gravity sensors, security system, communications, etc., etc, etc....but it can't emulate pre-APL or pre-UNIX 1960's code.

Sure it can't. We have to go to 1975 and get an IMB 5100. I guess Radio Shack in 2036 no longer carries Trash-80's.
 
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"2. IBM was under a possible secret military contract at the time of the development of the IBM 5100 machine hence "Project Mercury". IBM quickly designed the IBM 5110 computer version which suspiciously no longer have the reversible binarial capability. They did add some stuff to the 5110 version to make it look like it was enhanced. I do still believe that this military contract is still top secret. *why do you think it was called the Emulation 360?* (in math you can consider 360 as a "turn around or degrees")"

Top secret or classified work is not done that way. It's done in complete isolation to commercial work, in special containment areas. There are strict regulations and protocols, and nothing which is classified or which contains classified technology or information makes it's way back into a commercial project without declassification. The computer system in question was never a classified system.
 
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