Everybody here is a hypocrite

[Guest]

Hypocrites!!! All you ever do is discuss how might time travel be possible and argue over how to do it. All those arguments are great and everything, but why don't you test your arguement? Study how you think it could be done, then try to do it. Yes, I know you must be thinking that what I am suggesting is stupid, but if nobody tests it, who will? Try to make something of yourself, back up your stupid arguments with proof. If everybody tried to test their theories on time travel, eventually one would work. Until you have disproved somebody elses theory by proof, you have no room for arguing against their theory. So everybody get off your lazy bottoms and actually give yourself the right to give your opinion on this matter.

-Tempus Viator

 

[Guest]

He\'s right!!

I am reluctant to say this, but he is right. We need to start using actions, not words, to back up our theories.

 

[TimeTravelActivist]

RE: He\'s right!!

Who are you, and why are you using the TTA name without my consent?

No one comes here imitating the TTA or anyone else for that matter.

Who do you think you are, Clara

?

I’m letting this one slide this once, but if you do it again, there is going to be hell to pay. Just like the Time Travelers, who think that they can manipulate the timeline to their benefit. There is no escape from me, sooner or later, they will have to answer to the ~TTA.

 

[Guest]

RE: He\'s right!Sodium-hypo-clorite:

You can say hypocrite, or sodium-hypo-chlorite, which is used to cholorinate impure water.

 

[TimeTravelActivist]

RE: He\'s right!!

Obviously this is some sort of sick game that brings amusement to your life Darby (and some of this post can apply to you to Daniel). And from what the word on the street around here is, is that anamolies.net isn’t really giving you the same buzz that it used to

.

Talking with you again here these last few days, I can see why .

And speaking of communication being an art form; “Taking the bait” “falling for it” and “predictable” says a lot about this being the case.

I can tell you’re the kind of guy that likes to play mind games with people. So I wouldn’t hold it past you to being capable of manipulating the “art” of communication to your favor.

Just know this; The TTA plays NO Games with anyone, especially a manipulative one.

So go and play your twisted game elsewhere, for I am on to you.

-TTA

P.S. So is this how you intended to “kill’em with kindness?” By placing your self above them for own amusement? Tisk-tisk. You need a new hobby man… Perhaps I may recommend stamp collecting, or growing your own Amazing Live Sea Monkey’s

.

 

[Guest]

RE: He\'s a form of food.To TTA:

No TTA, actually you'r a form of food.

Did you pay attention to CAT's last post to Clara?

There are Grays, but now there are clones, who are replaceing normal people and being placed into government.

There is nothing that you can do about this either.

My problem, is that I'm torn between two cultures and don't know what to do.

I did everything by the books and still no movement by formalized government.

The only ones who they do not seem to bother, are the Russians.

The Russians lost over seven hundred soldiers, takeing back an island within Russia, which was the loss of tanks, migs and many troops.

The aliens were supprised, as the Russians would just not quit.

They got the island back, but at a terrible cost.

Insects TTA, all insects.

Could it be that Earth is one big compitition coloney to these beings and they must infiltrate it, in order to conquer?

I don't know, however for some reason, they like me and I don't know what this is?

Did you know that the prototype clones in Southern Califorina, of the 1980s, all died of intestinal problems?

So then alien made clones only had a life expectency of one to two years, then expired.

I wonder what the Angelic heiarchy thinks of the clones that are being snuck in and how do you recognize them?

Is it with a device known as a prismatic set of glasses?

You know Gary Condit was an awlfully funny person, he was so sadistic, that the word out, was that he enjoyed doing what he was doing.

Insects deseminate their prey and Chandra Levey was found, deseminaited in peices.

Insects do not have the depth to get mad.They just make contingency plans and then act on these plans.

Do you have screans over your windows, when you sleep at night, in order to keep flying insects out?

 

[TimeTravelActivist]

RE: He\'s a form of food.To TTA:

Daniel,
I know you’re a little excited about the new MIB moving coming out, but please try and restrain your self. You’re a grown man for Pete’s sake.

well that’s what I am assuming you are anyways.

<<There is nothing that you can do about this either.>>

Oh well… thanks for the tip. But I think I’ll try anyways

. I’m the TTA, remember?

<<My problem, is that I'm torn between two cultures and don't know what to do.>>

Yeah, I’ll say

. Who do you want to pledge your allegiance to, humanity or the extraterrestrials?

What has either one of them done for you lately?

Who do you feel you belong with better?

You said you wanted to be an ambassador and speak for the Aliens. But now you’re changing your tune about joining them. Why the change of heart all of a sudden?

Maybe after losing so much, you discovered that selling out humanity was not going to be a winning side for you to be on. Especially once the TTA takes ‘em down

.

<<I did everything by the books and still no movement by formalized government.>>

Maybe to much reading, and not enough critical analysis

? I don’t know, just a guess.

<<Insects TTA, all insects.>>

Uhhh, okkaayy *shifts eyes to the side and around :confused

Bugs ehh? Interesting, very interesting

, please do say more.

<<Could it be that Earth is one big compitition coloney to these beings and they must infiltrate it, in order to conquer?>>

Maybe you fell asleep watching Star Ship Trooper cartoons with your kids one to many nights

?

<<I don't know, however for some reason, they like me and I don't know what this is?>>

Geee, that’s so weird,

. But I think I can make a guess or two. How about you Cat

?

<<Did you know that the prototype clones in Southern Califorina, of the 1980s, all died of intestinal problems?>>

No, I had no idea. I must have been really busy that year to notice, much less care

… Duh, I was being born.

<<So then alien made clones only had a life expectency of one to two years, then expired.>>

The bugs?

What type of bugs?

<<I wonder what the Angelic heiarchy thinks of the clones that are being snuck in and how do you recognize them?>>


So their not bugs? I’m confused

, I thought you said that they were.

If they are, all you gotta do is spray them with “Raid” kills them on contact. Until you leave and turn off the lights, and come back and there gone

.

hehe.

You mean those 3D viewing binoculars or whatever they’re called

? Hey I used to play with those when I was a kid, they were lots of fun. My favorite were Sesame St. and Gummy slides .

<<Insects do not have the depth to get mad.They just make contingency plans and then act on these plans.>>

Good

, so I guess I can kill those little buggers feeling guilt free.

<<Do you have screans over your windows, when you sleep at night, in order to keep flying insects out?>>

Funny that you mention it. Just before I turned out the lights and closed my blinds, there was this nasty roach by my window

. I am tempted in closing the window, but it sure hella hot over here.

-TTA

 

[Guest]

RE: He\'s a form of food.To TTA:

Daniel,

You posted above:

<<You can say hypocrite, or sodium-hypo-chlorite, which is used to cholorinate impure water.>>

So now you are sharing water with me hu? Well, my thoughts exactly when I was drinking it! I EVEN LOOKED AT THE LABEL WITH THE TINY PRINT to read filtered (.2 micron absolute) and ozonated to insure quality!

Everything causes Cancer these days EVEN WATER!!!!! The latest research has determined that DISINFECTANTS INGESTED and combined with the intestinal fluk virus and parasites break the bodies imune system down!


CAT...

 

[Darby]

Sarmenta,

OK...here goes...the simplified proof (which will be presented in straight algebra, and in terms of Special Relativity - gravity is ignored).

The simplified Lorentz Transformation for time dialation is given as:

t = t_0/ sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2))

That is, "Time (dialation) equals time over the square root of one minus the square of velocity over the square of the speed of light." It means that your clock ticks on as usual while clocks in the "world" around you run faster(relative to your clock)...you move forward in time at a rate faster than the world around you appears to move through time.

This is the basis of time travel. If one can accept that a negative square root is signed as "i" (imaginary) rather than "-" then "t" is negative...time runs backwards in the world around you...if your velocity exceeds the speed of light. No problem so far.

However there are other Lorentz Transformations. One is for mass. That formula is given as:

m = m_0/sqrt(1 - (v^2/c^2))

You have a new and much more difficult problem with this formula. As "v" increases, the denominator in the formula becomes smaller...which means that the mass "m" inreases. Eventually, at velocities approaching "c" mass increases so much that the energy required to further increase velocity becomes enormous. Ultimately, at 99.999...% "c" the mass of the object under accelleration exceeds the mass of the entire universe. There simply isn't enough energy in the entire universe to further increase the velocity. The mass under accelleration can never reach a velocity where "v = c" let alone a velocity where "v > c"...which is theoretically required to make time run backwards in the first formula.

The formulas are better stated in calculus (which I won't do here) as calculus would state the problem as a function with a limit..."the function of mass tends toward infinity..." but never actually becomes infinite.

If you could actually tavel at the speed of light "c" you would have another problem that is usually ignored by time travel proponents but which is implicit in the formulas. At "c" velocity your clock runs as normal. But from your perspective clocks in the "world" around you would advance at infinite dialation. There would be no time interval between your attaining the velocity "v = c" and your attaining a velocity of "v > c". Before you could get the clocks around you to run backwards you simply advance to the "end of time" and are destroyed by the Big Crunch event.

This is a very basic and simlified "proof". It hits the highlights and is based on theories that have been tested in the real world. Experimental data tends to validate the theory. We do see atomic (cesium) clocks which were originally synchronized undergoing relative time dialation...but it is limited to micro-seconds; we don't have the ability to travel at high percentages of the speed of light.

Are there other proposed methods for time travel? Yes.

One is by the use of Kerr (spinning) black holes. In theory they create a wormhole which can be used for time travel. The theory also states that the singularity involved always lies in the future light cone of the proposed time traveler and the torus of the black hole is highly unstable. Any disrutbance (including a time traveler entering it) causes the wormhole to collapse...which utterly destroys the time traveler. Moreover, wormholes have never been observed, directly or indirectly and may not even exist other than as a mathematical construct. There's no proof that they are anything more than the result of a quirk of the math. As time is of the essence, only time will tell if they are real.

Another is Tipler Cylinders. However, Tipler Cylinders are composed of neutronium. Neutronium is the mass left over from a collapsed star that had a mass just short of that required to form a black hole. The cylinder has to be infinitely long (which is not possible)otherwise the cylinder collapses like an accordion due to the enormous gravitational field along its length. The cylinder also has to be rotating at 3/4 "c" angular velocity. Just how one would lassoo collapsars and tow them into line is a somewhat limiting factor. Getting them to line up and spin at 3/4 "c" in unison is another limiting factor. Of course infinite length requires infinite mass. That's beyond comprehension let alone possibility.

 

[Darby]

Jave,

I would never, ever post under any name other than "Darby". We have our differences of opinion but posting under your name (or any other person's name) would be unethical, immoral and possibly illegal. Jave, that wasn't me using your name.

 

[TimeTravelActivist]

For being sincere and straightforward with me about this, I do apologize for my rash comments about you in the above post.

However, it’s good to hear that you do have some sense of morals and principles in you after all

.

-TTA

 

[Darby]

Jave,

Thanks. I believe that if I have something to say I also have to be willing to take any heat that my thoughts generate. Trolling under false names, or worse, under a fellow community member's name, is CS and cowardly.

No need to apologize. No offense taken.

 

[Guest]

RE: Everybody here is a hypocrite, Darby??

Stealing genetic matter, would also be considered as wrong, wouldn't it Darby?

I mean if those behind the shadows were to construct something, that people could not control and this was roying an entire government fa ity, because your pe le did not understand it, then this would not be my fault, would it?