Electromagnetics & DNA

RainmanTime

RainmanTime

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I have always felt there is a connection between the coiled structure of DNA and the structure of an inductive solenoid coil. Where electric current passing through the solenoid coil generates a magnetic field coincident with the center of the coil, I have always felt that the "axis" of DNA would have some sort of similar electromagnetic effect at its center. Well, it turns out some other people have been investigating this with some interesting results!

The following comes from this web link:

http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/newtech2.html#gencode

"G. Rein proposes that DNA functions as antennae for quantum fields of consciousness. In the case of DNA, quantum coherence has been measured experimentally by virtue of the time decay of the photons it emits (Popp FA, Ruth B et al. Emission of visible and ultraviolet radiation by active biological systems Collective Phenomon 3: 187-214, 1981) . Furthermore, electron propagation down its center axis has been measured at superconducting speeds (Clery, DNA goes electric Science 267: pp. 1270, 1995) . Another unique property of nucleic acids is based on recent electron micrographs showing DNA in the tertiary structure of a toroid (Hud NV, Downing KH, Balhorn R. A constant radius of curvature model for the organization of DNA in toroidal condensates, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. 92: 3581-3585, 1995) . A mechanism is proposed for the resonances between energy fields of consciousness and the energetic template of DNA. Such a mechanism is supported by recent experimental evidence for an energetic template of DNA using laser correlation spectroscopy (Poponin V The DNA phantom effect: direct measurement of a new field in the vacuum substructure J. Nanobiology, 1998 (accepted for publication)). Individuals who could generate different intentional states of consciousness focused their intention to either unwind or wind the two strands which make up the DNA helix. Conformational changes were measured by standard biochemical methods using UV absorption spectroscopy at 260 nm. For a typical experiment eight aliquots of human placental DNA (Sigma Chemical Co, St. Louis) were transferred to identical sealed test tubes giving a final concentration of 20ug/ml distilled water. Four aliquots were measured before treatment and four aliquots were measured immediately after a 15 minute treatment. Control experiments were done exactly the same except the tubes were left on the benchtop instead of receiving a treatment. Control samples showed a natural tendency to unwind with an increase in absorption of 1.09 % +/- 0.8. Samples treated with the conscious intention to unwind DNA caused a larger increase in absorption from 2-10% depending on the experiment. Samples treated with the intention to wind DNA produced a decrease in absorption from 2-5 %. These effects, which are statistically significant, indicate that DNA is sensitive to the informational content of consciousness and support the hypothesis presented here."

I also find parts of this research interesting with respect to my research and theory on how information and energy are related to one another.

RMT
 
Hello GooSci! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Absolutely not! This is not going to fly.
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Well, I respect your belief... but I would certainly invite you to explain why you think as you do! Are you familiar with spiral theories, and how they exhibit themselves in our reality?

I'd love to hear more of your reasoning,
RMT
 
Forgot about thread sorry mate!
Quick explanation:
1.DNA is an Insulator.
2.Its superconductivity comes from its water layer.
3.Its water can only conduct over a small distance, say 3.4 - 6.8 x 10 -10 metres due to quantum tunneling, becoming less likely (tending to 0) as the distance involved increases.
4. The DNA Helix is negatively charged, but the elctrons are not in a Pi delocalised environment, so they cannot conduct at all. As per 1.
5. The elements in DNA, C,O,P,N and H are all non metallic and as such do not have orbital overlap for easy electron exchange or even polarisation. As per 1.

Cheers

Good Scientist
 
Quick explanation:
1.DNA is an Insulator.
2.Its superconductivity comes from its water layer.
3.Its water can only conduct over a small distance, say 3.4 - 6.8 x 10 -10 metres due to quantum tunneling, becoming less likely (tending to 0) as the distance involved increases.
4. The DNA Helix is negatively charged, but the elctrons are not in a Pi delocalised environment, so they cannot conduct at all. As per 1.
5. The elements in DNA, C,O,P,N and H are all non metallic and as such do not have orbital overlap for easy electron exchange or even polarisation. As per 1.
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Hi Good Scientist.

Thanks for the explanations. They all make sense from my limited knowledge of chemistry. Even so, there appear to be a lot of folks who still don't think it is a dead end, as many are still involved in investigating what has become known as "DNA electronics".

HERE is a paper I found that I plan to study. If for no other reason, I am sure you see the potential applications in nanotechnology, and the attractiveness of it all given that DNA is the most efficient information storage devices we know of.

Thanks again,
Ray
 
I have studied this paper, and it appears to back up what i just said, but the authors were clearly in favour of finding DNA to be a conductor, the writing and bias interpretation of results is obvious. They agree that the pi orbtals are not a viable source of electrons. They also conclude that DNA is either a semi-conductor at best or an insulator, and that water molecules on the DNA back bone, which incredibly hard to remove for experimentation pruposes is one possible cause of DNA's minute conductivity. They don't explain very well what mechanism they believe is causing the nanoamps to flow, about 1 sentence is actually devoted to that. It seems like an exercise in DNA conformational creation, if you ask me, and not an experiment on DNA's conductivity and the finer points thereof.

Good Scientist
 
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