Could you really change past events, or is it pre-destined?

Itheblaze

Itheblaze

Chrono Cadet
Take the Titanic. In 1898, fourteen years before the ill-fated vessel was even dreamed of, Morgan Robertson wrote the novel "Futility". It's about the largest liner ever built caring the rich and famous of the world. Then on April 9th it struck an iceberg. The Titanic, April 14th. The vessel in this book, 70,000 tons. The Titanic, 66,000 tons. Length, 800ft. The Titanic, 882ft. Both made 25 knots. Both carried about 3,000 passengers. Both liners had lifeboats for only a fraction of number of people, and both were considered unsinkable. Oh, and one more thing, the author called his ship the "Titan".

 
It did help, somewhat, that Robertson made a few edits for the 1912 Second Edition, published after the Titanic sank.

 
An interesting quote:

"William T. Stead, an English journalist with a keen interest in spiritualism, also published some allegedly predictive writings about the Titanic, including an 1892 story about a ship that rescues passengers of a ship that collided with an iceberg. Stead was actually a passenger on the Titanic, and after his death in that disaster, numerous paranormal claims about the ship were connected to him."

 
As I understand the past can only be observed therefore you are able to change the future by the selection of choice you make from these past events

 
As I understand the past can only be observed therefore you are able to change the future by the selection of choice you make from these past events
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Is that an introduction to a pep talk?

 
Yes Most certainly agree to that. Just not sure myself off the true definition of "God"..... I like to think of "God" as the "Source" from which all... is,....was and still is to become

 
You have prepared a pep talk?--or, no?

If no, not to worry.

One lovely lady

wouldn't mind so benefitting us

with its being so close to New Year's Day.

But resolutions can wait.

0 : - ) Merry Christmas to all!

 
Re: the topic (the past and destiny) -

The past is set;

otherwise, what seems past

takes place in an alternative reality,

e.g. the multiverse.

Theoretically, one could live every walk of life

simultaneously in the meta-universe.

Re:

Many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics,

"[...] one aspect of quantum mechanics is that certain

observations cannot be predicted absolutely"--Wikipedia.

 
The theory states that when you time travel, you create a new universe or timeline each time, so you would only be changing the past of another timeline, not your own. I disagree, though. Once you create a universe, why wouldn't you be able to trace your steps back to your "home" universe with the proper technology? If current time travelers can't do it, then surely hundreds of years from now, it will be possible. I suspect, though, that it can be and is being done. Very dangerous, if you think about it.

 
We may one day be able to visit the past but i don't believe we will ever be given the key to unlock the past. What i mean by this is that whenever an event occurs it leaves an unremovable imprint on time and the universe, it gets locked in to history.

As i mentioned in another post i believe any time travel will be done more through the mind rather than in a physical sense so we will only be able to observe past or future events, not alter them. It would be sheer arrogance in my opinion to assume that a single human being would have the power to change a huge event in history. The universe is a power far greater than anyone can ever imagine, it would take far more than one single time traveller to change even the minutest detail in history surely. We could never be a match for a power so great and a concept so complex and immense.

 
I'm always very lazy to read the posts of a thread.

But, always is predestined. Even if you could travel to the past, it could be predestined. If all posibilities would be 100%, even that would be predestined.

It is predestined because we live time. Destiny doesn't.

 
We may one day be able to visit the past but i don't believe we will ever be given the key to unlock the past. What i mean by this is that whenever an event occurs it leaves an unremovable imprint on time and the universe, it gets locked in to history
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In multiverse theory by using the phrase ''change the past'' you simply mean that you create another version of history by moving in another world line. You are not erasing the once established past to rewrite history.

 
Those are very interesting facts and they gave me goosebumps. However, in relation to the topic of this forum, I believe our destiny has already been shaped and no matter what we do or how hard we try to change the past, our future remains the same.

 
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