Cloaking Technology possibly lead to Time Travel ?

KerrTexas

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Watching a report on television regarding the advancements in cloaking technology involving the bending of light through various means, got me to thinking about the possibilities that similar principles could be applied to affecting time.

Here is a link to short article about cloaking technology.

Cloaking Technology
 
The cloaking device I saw is briefly mentioned in the linked article posted above. However, the one that caught my attention was the coil of copper/composite banding that was designed to "bend" electromagnetic waves of specific frequencies.

The visible "wave" of the frequency of red ( for example ) when passing along the coil, is made to follow a path "around" the object for cloaking. Would be interesting to place a timing device into the center of the coil, to see what effects there are on time.

That some technologies arise as surprising side-effect(s) from other pursuit's would not be a first.
 
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Yes this is interesting. Anyone have any thoughts on this? maybe there could be a little potential here.

Yes. I would seriously
recommend the authoritative work:

Secrets of Klingon Technology and Illustrated Guide To The Traumas of End Time," by HDRKID II. . Exactly what you're talking about is covered in Chaper 15. :D
 
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Secrets of Klingon Technology and Illustrated Guide To The Traumas of End Time ?!?! what are you talking about?! that a joke? klingons??! what the hell?! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Secrets of Klingon Technology and Illustrated Guide To The Traumas of End Time ?!?! what are you talking about?! that a joke? klingons??! what the hell?!

Of course it's a joke. The Klingons in the TV series Star Trek were aliens who made their ships invisible by use of a "cloaking device." That's where the term originated, I believe.

The allusion to HDRKID refers to that poster's time travel claims. So cloaking device+time travel, and Kerr's post involved the question of whether the circuit for cloaking would affect time.
 
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First off, that article was poorly written and/or had mis-information... as quoted

"Calculations indicate the device would make an object invisible in a wavelength of 632.8 nanometers, which corresponds to the color red."

632 nm is green. So if the article is getting basic info like that wrong, who knows what else. I'm starting to sound like RMT and maybe missing the point, so I'll get back to a point of some sort...

There was a company that all but disappeared (no pun intended) a few years ago outside LA called OEWaves. They were working on an optical hard drive that basically shot a laser beam into a cylinder of millions of tiny quartz spheres. The idea was that the light, carrying information, would enter the sphere at an angle such that the refracted angle would allow the light to bounce around indefinitely inside the sphere. I think that part went ok, but the trick was extracting the information. I think they ran out of funding before they realized the true potential of their technology.

Without getting technical, I'll just say that copper coil with a special core is on the mark. As electrons are to coherent light, magnetic fields are to coherent gravity. And a controllable source of gravity can manipulate time. I've done this before, it fucks things up, as it is only a piece of what you need to time travel. The other being a mental/memory/psychological-navigation/beacon/steering wheel. That's what has eluded me for 10 years now. KerrTex, I'd like to know where you saw that so I can see what they are using and figure out what it can do.
 
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KerrTex, I'd like to know where you saw that so I can see what they are using and figure out what it can do.

I thought the program was on Discovery Channel, and on the show they explained it far better than anything I could find on the internet.

The copper coil, as explained on the TV Show was not merely copper, but also contained some custom designed circuit's implanted into a copper/composite coil.

I tried to find more on the internet to better present more of what I saw...however, what I linked was the best I could find that even got close. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/frown.gif

They had fairly descriptive explaination as far as the dynamics of the cloaking coil device...they never mentioned "time", but as I was watching the animations of "how" the coil worked, bending specific waves, it occurred to me that IF any waves were truly being bent to "cloak" an object, then there would seem to be a delay in the timing as well.

The linked article did mention :

Research findings are detailed in a paper appearing this month in the journal Nature Photonics. The paper, which is appearing online this week,was co-authored by doctoral students Wenshan Cai and Uday K. Chettiar, research scientist Alexander V. Kildishev and Shalaev, all in Purdue's School of Electrical and Computer Engineering.


" The paper " in the journal Nature Photonics might be worth a look-see.
 
Invisibility Cloak Creates a Hole in Time (By Chris Gayomali | 10:55am EST ) :

Another day, another invisibility cloak. Only this one is special because it can reportedly mask the appearance of time.
What does that even mean? It might be helpful to imagine the bus-scene gimmick in Speed in which the cops use a short loop of camera footage of all the passengers sitting still to fool Dennis Hopper into thinking everything is going his way, when in actuality, Keanu Reeves is helping everyone escape. The invisibility cloak illusion is kind of like that.
The cloaking technique, created by scientists at Purdue University, manipulates the speed of light in optical fibers to create what is ostensibly a gap in time in which any activity is left undetected, BBC News reports. If you wove enough of these fibers together into a cloak, you could theoretically rob a bank or pick your nose, and it'd be as if nothing was happening to anyone around you.

Up until now, other invisibility cloaks have worked using special metamaterials to bend light in unnatural ways around stationary objects, effectively masking them from view (or from sound waves or microwaves). The cloaking technology here is a bit different, and uses inverse waves to push and pull the light to make it appear as if things are business as usual, when in actuality there is a whole lot of activity going on.

"When one sends high-speed data over an optical fiber in the existing infrastructure, in many cases it's just 1s and 0s (binary code)," co-author Andrew Weiner tells BBC News. Manipulating the stream of light to create little holes in time is analogous to controlling the flow of a streaming river:
"Think about taking a region of that river and pushing some of it forward, and some backwards so there are holes where there isn't any water. Maybe there's a dam, and we can pop the dam on and off very quickly, to somehow disturb or divert the water.​
"If we part the water so it doesn't see the dam popping up and down, it isn't disturbed, and afterwards we can put the water back together so it looks like a nice calm river again.​
"That's how we control the flow of the light. We're pushing it forward and backwards in time, so it avoids events that would otherwise disturb it," Prof Weiner explained. [BBC News]

The experiment is a proof of concept of a 2010 London study that first suggested a "space-time cloak" was mathematically feasible. It was theorized that a wave phenomenon that was first discovered by British inventor Henry Fox Talbot back in 1836 could be exploited to hide an event in time. Nature explains that when "a light wave passes through a series of parallel slits called a diffraction grating, it splits apart." Here's the technical explanation:

The rays emanating from the slits combine on the other side to create an intricate interference pattern of peaks and troughs. Talbot discovered that this pattern repeats at regular intervals, creating what is now known as a Talbot carpet. There is also a temporal version of this effect in which you manipulate light over time to generate regular periods with zero light intensity, says Lukens. Data can be then be hidden in these holes in time. [Nature]

Essentially, by speeding up the front half of a wave and slowing down the back, you can create a tiny temporal gap that's rendered undetectable. That sounds like a lot of work, but the whole process is incredibly fast: 36 trillionths of a second. Weiner and his colleagues were able to successfully cloak tiny bits of data in this stretchy time-pocket 46 percent of the time.

That said, seeing 54 percent of some sneaky cloaked guy strolling into a bank vault with a rucksack is probably still enough to tip off the authorities. Nevertheless, researchers are confident that this discovery can improve our lives in a number of ways, from foiling communications between criminal networks to alleviating traffic jams in data transmission. Faster internet may not be as cool as space-time invisibility. But it's a start.

Original article :
This invisibility cloak creates a hole in time - The Week
 
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