BUILDING TIME MACHINE

CJ Kim

Temporal Novice
Okay, so i actually started a website about a time machine.
Its main purpose is to build a time machine. Well, other people asked me if I was joking, but no. I'm very serious as much as I can be.
However with only my knowledge, building a time machine is nearly impossible. So I need intelligent people who are dedicated to Physics, in this case time traveling, just like you guys.
I need as much of information as possible. And I would really appreciate if you guys come to my site and give a glance. It would be really nice if you become our member.
(I just started this website, so there are not much information to look at. However I would like to start with you guys.)

The site is SIDACRO - FUCOM

Thank you, CJ Kim.
 
I need as much of information as possible. And I would really appreciate if you guys come to my site and give a glance. It would be really nice if you become our member.

If you're serious about this then what you really need is a PhD in theoretical physics with an emphasis on general relativity and another PhD in engineering. And you need to be really, really brilliant in both fields bacause:

1)Currently there is no physical theory that allows time travel to the past in the real world. There are a few highly speculative theories that mathematically suggest time travel to the past but only in carefully constructed idealized situations. The "carefully constructed idealized situations" do not reflect the real world.

2)To build a time machine will require engineering skills far, far beyond what is currently available today. Solving the physics side of the problem is only the beginning. Physicists don't normally invent "stuff". Engineers take the theoretical of physics and make it real.

Oh, yeah - you might also consider becoming an immortal. Time travel of the sort speculated here, if it is at all possible, will require at least 500 to 1000 years to develop - if not 10's of thousands of years (which is the more realistic time requirment). Today we just barely manage to output sufficient energy to propel a few protons to high relativistic velocities using a power plant designed to energize a small city (CERN's LHC). The sort of energy required for time travel is billions of times greater - definitely not stuff that will sit in the front seat of a Corvette and be powered by a Delco 12 v car battery.

I'm sorry if this disappoints you but it's the truth. Time travel will not be invented by someone tinkering in their garage or basement - if it is ever invented. It will take the combined resources of an entire planet to accomplish. And when I'm referencing "time travel" I don't mean advancing or retarding a photon a microsecond or two. I'm talking about entire human beings and whatever vehicle that they have to utilize in order to survive the trip.
 
Thank you for the reply.
It did not disappoint me at all, because I was expecting some kind of response like this.
But in fact, it motivated me. I noticed that CERN uses the LHC to collide particles after accelerating nearly to the speed of light. But the LHC could be used to build a time machine. In my opinion, it has to be much smaller.
I agree that it might take tons of energy to run that crazy device. But yet, no one can claim that building a time machine is impossible. If each individual thinks other people will do it, and one just waits, then everyone will just wait until the day when nobody actually puts the ideas into reality. One has put things into an action (I know there are people who are trying to invent time machine), and I'm okay if that's me. I'm okay if I die in the middle of the progression of building a time machine. Thus whether I'm an immortal or not, and whether I can even get close to the answer or not, I need as much information as possible. That's all.
 
I noticed that CERN uses the LHC to collide particles after accelerating nearly to the speed of light. But the LHC could be used to build a time machine. In my opinion, it has to be much smaller.

Accelerators were much smaller in the 1930's. They could accelerate electrons to about 99.75% the speed of light and it could sit on a lab work bench powered by a wall socket. But that's where the education comes in (the PhD in physics) to understand the special relativity problem here. Today, at CERN, it takes a power plant that can power a small city so they can attain 99.99999% the speed of light. In 80 years we went from a table top accelerator to a 27 km long accelerator to ecke out an extra 750 km/sec.

It's a bit more involved than that because they are accelerating, among other items, individual lead atoms. The most common stable isotope of lead is Pb-207 which is about 380,880 times more massive than an electron. But you can see the problem, I hope. I don't think that you can hook up a table top accelerator to Hoover Dam, pull the lever and have any hope that the gadget will survive the jolt. And this is also where the PhD in engineering comes in. The accelerator has to be big to give the particles suffieient "run up" room and to provide some place to put the "radiator". The LHC gets a tad warm when its running.

Developing a valid theory of time travel will take many, many physicists working around the world. It's an ongoing project today, but not really a front burner item. But a valid theory is not a working gadget.

Put some perspective on the endeavor. In the 1930's Germany led the world in nuclear physics theory and research. In 1938 Otto Hahn, Lise Meitner and Fritz Strassmann discovered that the uranium atom could be split by neutron bombardment. Soon thereafter Hermann Göring put Werner Heisenberg in charge of all nuclear physics research into sustaining a fission chain reaction of uranium. Seven years later following first the invasion of Italy and thereafter after the invasion of France Allied military personnel and scientists started gathering intel on the ground to determine how close Heisenberg was to developing a German atomic bomb. The answer absolutely shocked them. Heisenberg had made virtually no progress in 7 years. The reason? You can't invent the atomic bomb in your garage or basement, and you can't do it on a shoestring budget. The theory was there - everyone knew the theory...Germany, Italy, Japan, the Allies. The German government didn't fund the project or give it sufficient numbers of scientists.

Going from theory to fact took, in the US, several dedicated research facilities (Met Lab was one), 40,000 people and a huge tract of land at Los Alamos, New Mexico, two fully functional nuclear reactors and two fully functional seperation-processing plants. Plus a budget that, today, would be about 2 trillion dollars.

That's the problem. Werner Heisenberg was as brilliant in 1938 as Albert Einstein was in 1905. And he failed, utterly failed, to take classroom theory to an engineering reality.

And the Manhattan Project is child's play as compared with inventing a time machine.
 
O.k. Mr. Kim,
We're all over thinking time travel and the technology of time travel.
I have explained this before and I'll explain it again for you now.
Time travel does happen every time we watch old movies.
We are literally glimpsing into the sights and sounds of the past.
You're watching the past from your present location.
A picture, a video, a 3d video are all different elementary stages of time travel.
In 2012, we already have the technology to view history by amplifying energy embedded into objects.
The findings of CERN will allow us to improve that technology.
It is all based on the reality of the 5th dimension also known as the Ghost Dimension.
The reflection of light on mirrors, water, glass, camera apertures, etcetera is a property of this dimension.
Our retinal mass of cones and rods, magnetic film, the digital recording of light and sound, memory, celluloid, etcetera are physical mechanisms that allow the 4 dimensions to peer into the 5th dimension and back again.

So here it is. This is basically how to time travel.
What you do is you build something like a movie camera that focuses gravity into two very solid time and space warping marble masses. This creates a Kerr Field of energy. That's just a fancy way of saying that it creates a double mirror of you. One mirror is one universe and the other mirror is another universe. Now with this camera/recorder, you rewind one of the universes back in time (you change the density of gravity to do this) and superimpose your image from the other universe onto the other universe.

We call this a Trism Camera. Tri - because there are really 3 yous. The you that controls the two mirror images of you and manipulates them. If I am 75, one mirror image of myself is 75 years old. The image of my other 75 year old self is rewound to 45. I can then do several things because this is no ordinary camera. It does not just record, it interacts. I could send a message to my 45 year old self from my 75 year old self. I could materialize my 75 year old self in my 45 year old self's world.

To test paradoxes, I could have my 75 year old self try to kill my 45 year old self. No matter what I try, I can't do it. I can not kill myself because there are not 3 time-lines. There is just 1 time-line and I'm looking at it in three different places. For the same reason that two different types of energy can not exist in one space, I can't do anything that would get myself killed in the past. I don't even need to take care not to get myself killed because it is impossible.

So why go back in time? It is for the same reason we study History, to learn what we did wrong and right. For it is the doom of men that they forget.

Another reason to go back is to save lives and not take them. Weather forecasts can save lives so why can't future forecasts? Gifted fortune tellers have been doing it since the dawn of civilization. I can not take lives but I can do my best to save lives. However, no matter what I say or how convincing I am, some people just want to die. If they didn't want to die, they would be more careful. Not having goals in life will do that to a person.
 
HOw can you explain people having different ideas in their head as to what my past is like. For example, they thought that I always lived in Salem, but in fact I was gone during their remembrance of mine own knowledge that I was actually gone to Cali during the time they thought I was in Salem? People keep on thinking I am someone else with a different name in town. I don't know why these things happen. But the first part I mentioned does not explain it within one timeline. How can you explain what I just wrote? Sorry it seems confusing to me John.
 
I can't really explain what you wrote. Nor can I go into detail about what I wrote. You see, time travel is actually a "why didn't I think of that, it seems so easy" kind of thing.
 
Thanks for the reply, Mr. Thomas.
Like you, I was also thinking about one absolute universe without any other multiverses and stuff.
However i don't think you can simply say the paradox has to be fixed because it's one universe. I think the universe can be fixed because of that paradox.
In my opinion, this is just like the quantum mechanics. It suits the best because it deals with all the probabilities things might behave. Also, Multiverses contain every possible outcome that might ever possibly happen.
oh by the way, i don't think saving people by using a time machine is not worth it. If you try to save people, lets just say you did, you might kill other people who could've lived longer, or it's just impossible to change people's destinies in one universe....
 
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