Any TT from other countries
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RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Hi Henry,
Just my thought...
RMT
I'm not saying you are wrong, but it would give me the opposite impression. It would say to me that many of these hoax TTers are not from the US, probably do not like the US, and are therefore interested in predicting a "terrible holocaust for the US" that is in our "immediate future".
Just my thought...
RMT
LOL! If that was said in the context of subtle sarcasm - well done! thats the first thing that has made me smile all night!!
A good question though. I believe that "Temprol Olly" and his "group", were allegedly from the UK. But i dont know for sure.
On a serious note though - I like your way of thinking, Rains. Anyone with any major social/political issues and a small degree of power, could use such means. Even within the US system itself.
I think there are many suspects. But i think i would go with some of your impressions, in this case.
Darby
Epochal Historian
henry,
There was at least one would-be TT from Germany - Ardon Krep. His thread lasted, as I recall, about six months starting in December of 2002. He posted on a German site (www.ratedx.com) that no longer exists.
But he was also another "I knew John Titor" TT.
I agree that in general most of our "TT's" have posted from US IP's and have talked about the USA. But as Rainman pointed out, we've had a lot of UK and Australian TT's plus a few Canadian TT's.
But that tends to make sense on an English language site. It wouldn't make much sense for someone to come onto the forum and post in another language. A few people who don't write English have tried to post by using Google Language Translator.
Rainman knows what I mean when I talk about math iterations. It means that you plug a value into the independent variable, have the formula output a result and then plug that value back into the independent variable. You do it several times. It works great to zero in on a value or define some sort of geometry. But...
Try doing that with Google translator. Plug in an English phrase and have it output the translation in another language. Then have it retranslate it back into English. Do a few iterations and the phrase will no longer have anything to do with the original phrase - and it probably won't make a lick of sense. I read, write ans speak Spanish fluently. I've tried this experiment. ROTFLMAO!!!
Now imagine trying to have a conversation with someone via posts using the translator. Its a mess. Iterations using a not-so-good software language translator is at the very least quite humorous - but not very helpful in deliverring content. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
So the short of it is that we should expect TT's here who are from English speaking countries.
PS: I have first hand experience with just how humorous the Google translator can be. Pamela and I both used Google translator to post on the German site. Gooz, the site owner - after falling off his chair laughing at our attempts to post in German, finally told us to post in English.
There was at least one would-be TT from Germany - Ardon Krep. His thread lasted, as I recall, about six months starting in December of 2002. He posted on a German site (www.ratedx.com) that no longer exists.
But he was also another "I knew John Titor" TT.
I agree that in general most of our "TT's" have posted from US IP's and have talked about the USA. But as Rainman pointed out, we've had a lot of UK and Australian TT's plus a few Canadian TT's.
But that tends to make sense on an English language site. It wouldn't make much sense for someone to come onto the forum and post in another language. A few people who don't write English have tried to post by using Google Language Translator.
Rainman knows what I mean when I talk about math iterations. It means that you plug a value into the independent variable, have the formula output a result and then plug that value back into the independent variable. You do it several times. It works great to zero in on a value or define some sort of geometry. But...
Try doing that with Google translator. Plug in an English phrase and have it output the translation in another language. Then have it retranslate it back into English. Do a few iterations and the phrase will no longer have anything to do with the original phrase - and it probably won't make a lick of sense. I read, write ans speak Spanish fluently. I've tried this experiment. ROTFLMAO!!!
Now imagine trying to have a conversation with someone via posts using the translator. Its a mess. Iterations using a not-so-good software language translator is at the very least quite humorous - but not very helpful in deliverring content. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
So the short of it is that we should expect TT's here who are from English speaking countries.
PS: I have first hand experience with just how humorous the Google translator can be. Pamela and I both used Google translator to post on the German site. Gooz, the site owner - after falling off his chair laughing at our attempts to post in German, finally told us to post in English.
recall15
Dimensional Traveler
This is from another Forum:
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I translated this via translator
Teacher of the mathematics of Mrs Taisija of N. Ivanov (she for herself reserved the surname), nice and intelligent middle-aged woman, got back home after the visit at the daughter in Moscow. Having learnt about the fact that I am a journalist she decided for me to tell the father reliable history which happened to it half some age ago. Not being convinced that I will hear something interesting, however I turned my tape recorder on and I switched to listening. Into the measuring cup of pulling by it the story, more and more I was convinced of the fact that it is the strangest history, with which at any time it came for me to listen...
And it is for her a story, with which I copied the word for word from the tape of the tape recorder:
I would like to tell my father about the certain event which happened during his service in, in 1946. Alone you understand - in which... But I will start my story with 1980 when I heard it this strange history from the mouth still then of living father.
With summer of 1980, in Moscow the Olympic Games took place, and how one can see in the connection with this event on counters and shelves of Soviet shops - even at us in the back of beyond - for the short time foreign dishes turned up, in this number Marlboro cigarettes, Kent, Salem and of menthol Newport. They cost the rouble and they were regarded very dear.
One day the father came home terribly upset. At that time I was in the kitchen and I cooked dinner. The father came to the kitchen and being silent put the bottle of vodka and a Newport packet of cigarettes on the table. It surprised me very much, because the father never smoked and practically he didn't abuse alcohol. Then he took clean glass out, he poured vodka to the brim into it and he toed down in one draught, like water. I was horrified against him and I understood that something had stunned him. I demanded from explanations, as for the strange behaviour and he told me this incredible history. What's more - he took back the oath that I will not tell anybody about it from me as long as he is still living...
In 1946, my father as young and unmarried starszyj liejtnant served in the paper of internal affairs in the Sobinka city in Władimirska Obłasti.
One day the patrol of the police force put the looking citizen back strange on the station in porozdzieranej of clothes and with broken head. He was in the close state for shock, he could not talk but unconsciously he looked all around. Everything what had in pockets to the desk my father which drew up a protocol from stopping the person was gotten. Still, it was there,, and most important (the father didn't already bear in mind the name and the patronymic of this man in 1980).
The father took this document to the hand - today we would say zalaminowany into plastic and read what there was written:
Outside the text of the father also a photograph hit the citizen in this document - it was b but r in n ah!
The fact that before him a foreign spy sat, it were outside discussion. But these dates in the document - after all behind windows a year was 1946!!!
The father telephoned to władimirskiego of MGB unit and from there immediately they sent and group of officials. When they arrived and took the alleged spy to Vladimira, found them in referenturze phone call from Moscow, from the Punnet where were already in the course in work. They ordered them to disappoint peeped at once to Moscow, not stopping in władimiroskim MGB unit. Władimiroscy czekiści they so also did - put stopped to and went to Moscow. Then the father could never already see him.
After some two whether three days, to Sobinki people arrived from the Punnet. They examined the father and police officers which stopped this man, then they ordered them to write their name on paper about keeping everything in the secret, poczym went back to Moscow.
But on it the matter for my father at all didn't end. She reminded him oneself three years later, in 1949 when the father heard into the radio about creating of the military pact the NATO. After all he could already see this shortcut on the document taken back from Pokrowski!
Appearing for a few months of memorable year 1980, in shops was second reminding this matter of cigarettes of the Newport brand - the father very well remembered their white-green wrapping which lay before him on his desk in 1946!
Now he already has no father amongst living, and I can talk about this event freely. But for many years questions aren't giving me the calmness: what more distant tickets of this Pokrowski were? How did he get to 1946? Whether some documents exist in archives of the Punnet whether władimirskiego KGB which they are taking back oneself to this incident? And if yes, when will be declassified? What period of the secrecy do they have? And most important: what it so the ones and in 2008? As oneself does everything have it to Russia?
I know the reply to none of posed questions through Taisę Iwanowną. Oh well, we will live - we will see. All the more, that of waiting didn't stay a long way - till 2008 - suddenly his child is four years old. And then we will get to know entire truth about the matter of the citizen of Pokrowski... Yeah and about fates of Russia also.
"
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a link:
Glp
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I translated this via translator
Teacher of the mathematics of Mrs Taisija of N. Ivanov (she for herself reserved the surname), nice and intelligent middle-aged woman, got back home after the visit at the daughter in Moscow. Having learnt about the fact that I am a journalist she decided for me to tell the father reliable history which happened to it half some age ago. Not being convinced that I will hear something interesting, however I turned my tape recorder on and I switched to listening. Into the measuring cup of pulling by it the story, more and more I was convinced of the fact that it is the strangest history, with which at any time it came for me to listen...
And it is for her a story, with which I copied the word for word from the tape of the tape recorder:
I would like to tell my father about the certain event which happened during his service in, in 1946. Alone you understand - in which... But I will start my story with 1980 when I heard it this strange history from the mouth still then of living father.
With summer of 1980, in Moscow the Olympic Games took place, and how one can see in the connection with this event on counters and shelves of Soviet shops - even at us in the back of beyond - for the short time foreign dishes turned up, in this number Marlboro cigarettes, Kent, Salem and of menthol Newport. They cost the rouble and they were regarded very dear.
One day the father came home terribly upset. At that time I was in the kitchen and I cooked dinner. The father came to the kitchen and being silent put the bottle of vodka and a Newport packet of cigarettes on the table. It surprised me very much, because the father never smoked and practically he didn't abuse alcohol. Then he took clean glass out, he poured vodka to the brim into it and he toed down in one draught, like water. I was horrified against him and I understood that something had stunned him. I demanded from explanations, as for the strange behaviour and he told me this incredible history. What's more - he took back the oath that I will not tell anybody about it from me as long as he is still living...
In 1946, my father as young and unmarried starszyj liejtnant served in the paper of internal affairs in the Sobinka city in Władimirska Obłasti.
One day the patrol of the police force put the looking citizen back strange on the station in porozdzieranej of clothes and with broken head. He was in the close state for shock, he could not talk but unconsciously he looked all around. Everything what had in pockets to the desk my father which drew up a protocol from stopping the person was gotten. Still, it was there,, and most important (the father didn't already bear in mind the name and the patronymic of this man in 1980).
The father took this document to the hand - today we would say zalaminowany into plastic and read what there was written:
Outside the text of the father also a photograph hit the citizen in this document - it was b but r in n ah!
The fact that before him a foreign spy sat, it were outside discussion. But these dates in the document - after all behind windows a year was 1946!!!
The father telephoned to władimirskiego of MGB unit and from there immediately they sent and group of officials. When they arrived and took the alleged spy to Vladimira, found them in referenturze phone call from Moscow, from the Punnet where were already in the course in work. They ordered them to disappoint peeped at once to Moscow, not stopping in władimiroskim MGB unit. Władimiroscy czekiści they so also did - put stopped to and went to Moscow. Then the father could never already see him.
After some two whether three days, to Sobinki people arrived from the Punnet. They examined the father and police officers which stopped this man, then they ordered them to write their name on paper about keeping everything in the secret, poczym went back to Moscow.
But on it the matter for my father at all didn't end. She reminded him oneself three years later, in 1949 when the father heard into the radio about creating of the military pact the NATO. After all he could already see this shortcut on the document taken back from Pokrowski!
Appearing for a few months of memorable year 1980, in shops was second reminding this matter of cigarettes of the Newport brand - the father very well remembered their white-green wrapping which lay before him on his desk in 1946!
Now he already has no father amongst living, and I can talk about this event freely. But for many years questions aren't giving me the calmness: what more distant tickets of this Pokrowski were? How did he get to 1946? Whether some documents exist in archives of the Punnet whether władimirskiego KGB which they are taking back oneself to this incident? And if yes, when will be declassified? What period of the secrecy do they have? And most important: what it so the ones and in 2008? As oneself does everything have it to Russia?
I know the reply to none of posed questions through Taisę Iwanowną. Oh well, we will live - we will see. All the more, that of waiting didn't stay a long way - till 2008 - suddenly his child is four years old. And then we will get to know entire truth about the matter of the citizen of Pokrowski... Yeah and about fates of Russia also.
"
/ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
a link:
Glp