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  • n.
    The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
     

 

 

A virus doesn't physically grow, but it reproduces, responds to stimuli, and adapts to the environment from within an organism.

 

How is it not alive?

 

 

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life

 

 

  • n.
    The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
     

 

 

A virus doesn't physically grow, but it reproduces, responds to stimuli, and adapts to the environment from within an organism.

 

How is it not alive?

My take on a virus not being a living thing - there is no nuclei - and they need a host - hence your "from within an organism"....

 

Actually - the "response to stimuli" is the reason I asked to forget the "virus" and look for what else may cause what we are responding to.

 

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life

 

 

  • n.
    The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
     

 

 

A virus doesn't physically grow, but it reproduces, responds to stimuli, and adapts to the environment from within an organism.

 

How is it not alive?

It all depends on how you want to broaden or restrict the definition of being alive. I think viruses certainly qualify as a form of pre-life or proto-life.

 

[/url]https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/why-are-viruses-considered-to-be-non-living

 

Viruses have structure and internal coding of nucleic acids. They are more complicated than rocks but fail to qualify as true living organisms.

 

 

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I've always thought virus' were closer to organic nanobots than real organic life.

 

Virus' evolve, act, and adapt according to their programming.

 

I suppose one could also think of virus' as completely random bits of code.

 

-Oz

 

 

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I've always thought virus' were closer to organic nanobots than real organic life.

 

Virus' evolve, act, and adapt according to their programming.

 

I suppose one could also think of virus' as completely random bits of code.

 

-Oz

So do basic cells, but we consider them alive, right? If not, we wouldn't be alive. A plant wouldn't be alive.

 

 

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My take on a virus not being a living thing - there is no nuclei - and they need a host - hence your "from within an organism"....

 

Actually - the "response to stimuli" is the reason I asked to forget the "virus" and look for what else may cause what we are responding to.

 

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I go off on tangents all the time, so I just created a new post. Forums are great for my brain. LOL. I thought this would make a good debate and it seems to be so far.

 

 

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So do basic cells, but we consider them alive, right? If not, we wouldn't be alive. A plant wouldn't be alive.

A virus is much smaller than a basic cell. They are to our red blood cells as Earth is to the sun.

 

I don't think I'd classify them as "alive" but they're not "unalive" either. They're somewhere in between.

 

-Oz

 

 

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I go off on tangents all the time, so I just created a new post. Forums are great for my brain. LOL. I thought this would make a good debate and it seems to be so far.

Agreed. So I found Virus Responding to Stimuli and was interested in the graphic about Lysogenic cycle.

 

  • If RNA/DNA material can become part of the HOST DNA, Can it be inherited/Passed on through generations?
     
  • since we have mRNA vaccines - can that too be Inherited/Passed and lay dormant through generations?
     
  • if RNA/DNA material can lay dormant until "stressed" What are those stressors?
     

 

 

heres a thought - do we all have cancer until it's activated?

 

Sure makes you think viruses act on cells by injecting themselves - what else do we inject and why are we doing it?

 

 

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