How can there be such thing as the "present time"

[silentLiTH]

How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

Time is usually considered as Past, Present, and Future. How can this be when time is constantly travelling forward, constantly travelling into the future. So how can there be a present time unless time was somehow frozen. It seems as if time is either Past or Future.

 

[enoch2]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

Well it works like this. The earth spins around. It orbits the Sun. The Sun spins round. It orbits the Galactic Core. It spins round. It orbits the Universal Core. It spins round.

And you my friend stay exactly where you've always been. At the centre of your conceptual universe. You call this thing Timespace because you see things spinning around. Spinning around you. Infact everything in the universe is spinning around you. Go outside and look up. It is spinning around you.

Travel at 100 000KMs and the speed of light will be 300 000KMs because the light is spinning around you.

Travel at 200 000KMs and the speed of light will be 300 000Kms because the light is spinning around you.

Travel at the speed of light and you will see timespace is you.

From earth dust you come mortal

And it is to earth dust you shall return.

We are but shadows and dust.

 

[thetazonesreturn]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

The only time that exists is NOW!! The present. There is those moments of now that have past and those that will come but the only time you can rely on without exception is NOW. The exact present.

Why does such a place dwell on the future when it is wasting the now???

Through the slowing of all thought, and the increasing of higher levels of vibration anything imaginable and more can be acheived in the now. To seek that of more knowledge on this subject one needs to seek the ancient teachings of life and that of the yogi's and Msytics such as MacDonanld Bayne, Babaji, Yogagnanda, Sananda (Jesus), and of the universe. It is all there clear as day as to what one can do when we become one with the universe, and one with the truth of life.

Everything one needs also is within through searching deep inside of that which we know but have not realized of life.

Thetazone (returned)

 

[BORO]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

first of all their is no presnt.
present is just a named given for the link that connects the past and the future.
in other words the present is just a link between the past and the future.

 

[metafis]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

Disagree. The only time is the present. Even the past is just arrangments of atoms in the present that represent the past in a way we in the PRESENT can assimilate and be conscious of. (eg printed word, historical records, our own memories etc etc).

 

[enoch2]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

Time is a dimention just like space. We have the capacity to move through this dimention. We are moving through it as we speak. Also our velocity and graviationl field strength can determine the dirction and speed we move through this dimention. The point is Velocity and Fields are terms to do with space. This is why old albert said time and space is the same thing. Interconected. Also he did say you would not move quicker in time ever. All he said was you would age the same and experiance time as normal, only time relative to the person who did not under go a change in velocity and Grav Field intensisty would change.

The clasic example is the space ship that leaves and comes back to find everyone they had known to have died of old age. This is time travel and even travel in the shutle dilates time. The point is our understanding of timespace is relative to who we are and where we are. That is to say thier are literaly billions of different timespaces, only an individual may define timespace as a an observer is need to quantify movement with in timespace.

If there is no point of reference thier is no time space, only the present, only the one.

 

[Azkaban]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

"The point is our understanding of timespace is relative to who we are and where we are. That is to say thier are literaly billions of different timespaces, only an individual may define timespace as a an observer is need to quantify movement with in timespace."

These are the views of Observer Physics. There is no time, nor space, nor even mass if there is no observer. Conversely, the existence of an observer is what creates distinct times, spaces, and masses out of the background energy medium.

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

I once heard the definition of eternity existing between the "Here" and "Now"! I think this more appropriately applies to the definition of the present. However fleeting the present may be, there is such a moment.
If you doubt it, then next time you appear before a judge for a traffic ticket and he asks if you are present, explain why you feel there isn't any such thing as the present or dont respond to him at all ( since you are not really present ) and see what happens. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[TimeNot_0]

Re: How can there be such thing as the \"present time\"

Present time was just a moment ago.

If time is ever frozen though, then time will be Present still, just an another form -- frozen in time.

If one thinks of a Past event, is that in the Present Time, or if anyone tells of a future event coming up in the now, is that not in the Present Time?

Present Time defines a time when the event is occuring, as opposed to actually having been in the Past or will be in the Future.

And typing this response is in the Present Time, as the Now was also a moment ago, but new Nows always keep coming also.

So, we put a limit on what is considered the Present Time, and then we decide what is the Past Time, or what will be in the Future Time.

But Now and Present Time are different, depending on how many Nows of Time are included in the Present Time as defined by the conditions we give to the Present Time.

Now and Present Time can also be the same, if we wish it to be.
We put the boundary condition on Present Time, but Now Time is always just occuring, and disappearing.

Present Time can be a few hours to a few years, to a few seconds, or a few nanoseconds. We allow the human telling the event to define the Present Time.

All of this Post was in the Present Time, but there was many Now Times included also, but the number for Present Time is 1 while a measurement that we agree on would be a different number from 1 to infinity for the Now Time -- depending on how small the measurement of time we decide on to represent the Now Time.

When someone says Now -- then it is understood that it means "At this Time instantly", while the Present Time may be a varied value that is decided on by the human defining the Present Time.
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