Argh - can't think of a title !

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Argh - can\'t think of a title !

You're all missing an important point. There is no-one in the physical, temporal or metaphysical universe that we have to answer to or be governed by. We must only answer to ourselves. Although all these theories and implications from the Bible, etc. may be critisised from people on this board like Lee - who I know only likes hard evidence - we are simply being told what we need to be told in order to succeed ourselves.


PP

 

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Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

People/Beings that we have to "answer" to:

1) Our Creator. Until I hear a compelling argument that the universe we live in was NOT created by some intelligent being, I will be respectful to the being that created me and the creation that surrounds me.

2) My parents. I didn't ask to be born, but my parents didn't exactly ask to give birth to me either. In any case, they did a pretty good job of raising me, and I owe them more than I can ever repay.

3) My brothers and sister. They supported me when my parents occasionally weren't doing such a good job, and they helped me to understand how to deal with other people about my age who didn't have the exact same interests as I had.

4) My friends. Too many reasons to state. Most importantly, helping me to maintain my sanity in a world that seems forever poised on the verge of mass psychosis.

5) The authorities. Personally I am a libertarian-leaning conservative and wish there were much less government than there is, but so be it. I can spend my time trying to "fight the power", but they seem to do a reasonably good job keeping the peace and maintaining the general order. Since they are elected, I have some say (however miniscule) in who it is that is telling me what to do.

6) Mankind in general. I owe my existence (in its particulars) to so many people that I will never ever see. Tonight I ate berries that probably came from Chile. I may never visit that country, but because some farmer took the time to grow those berries, I was able to eat delicious berries without having to go through all the trouble myself.

It is a wonderful fantasy to believe that you are an independent individual that depends on no one, a lone wolf or rugged individualist or a "cowboy". This is the great myth that despots such as Stalin like to sow among their sheep so that everyone is out for themselves (while spying on everyone else) so that it is very easy for the government to divide and ultimately conquer the nation.

Democracy depends on the interaction of small groups of people related by blood, sweat, and common ideals. These groups act as a buffer between the relatively powerless individual and the all-powerful state.

Despots always try to undermine or coopt these groups on their way toward total control. If enough people start deluding themselves into believing that they are truly independent individuals, then they will not fight the government when these important intervening social structures (e.g. families, unions, trade groups, clubs, etc.) are disbanded or taken over. Then it will be too late.

We will have traded face-to-face interdependence with faceless dependence on an uncaring, and despotic bureaucracy.

Take the time and thank someone tomorrow for something they did for you. You might begin by looking up at the beautiful sky (unless you live in L.A.) and thanking the Creator for not making it a sickening mauve or chartreuse color!

 

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Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

Thankyou for proving my point Nolo.

As you will see, what I wrote was a little test - simply what you needed to hear.

It reminded you of your friends, your beliefs, your world, no?

I totally agree that it is paramount we have other to help us.

As for your little attack on me telling me I am "an independent individual that depends on no one", you couldn't be further from the truth. What I was writing was designed to remind people that we need others, that we can't survive without love. Please don't reply and attck me or tell me what I am or am not - I'm only a little girl doing my job!


PP

 

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Re:Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

I was not attacking you perse, but the ideas that you were espousing.

You were a little disingenuous as you wrote as if you believed the ideas you were espousing. If I offended you, then I am sorry, but I only meant to shake up, what turns out to be, a false personality you had created.

I don't know that there has been a lot of talk about rugged individualism on this site. Nor have lots of people been talking and acting in a way which suggests they have no respect for others and only think of themselves.

Rather, the paradoxes of time-travel (e.g. going back in time and killing your grandfather, etc.) make it very clear that we are all dependent in one way or another (however remotely) on others.

Right now, I can at most have a rather limited effect on my fellow humans. If, however, I could travel back in time, I could potentially change world history by just appearing for a moment in some public square, sneezing, and then popping back into the present. Or at least that is what the latest Chaos Theory suggests!

P.S.: Just for my information, how does it feel to be, in Dieter Sprocket's words, "as happy as a little girl?"

Best Regards.

 

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Re:Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

How is it you come to the descision of what someone else "needs to hear"?

What process leads you to the conclusion that you are in possession of some specific wisdom or knowledge that others "need" to hear?

Perhaps you mean something other than the words "need, needed" since that reeks of presumption in which you can only come across as someone who has set him/her self up as the authority on what others "need".

As yet, you don't know me well enough to know what I may or may not "need" and I don't know you well enough to draw a conclusion as yet regarding whether you are qualified to determine that.

Semantics can be misleading in attempts at communication. As I said, perhaps you mean something other than "need" since I can't see how that applies here, based on what I've read so far.

 

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Re:Re:Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

Well excuse me Lee I sincerely apologise - I simply mentioned you from what I have read about you. I did not make any mistake with the words I used either.

PP

 

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Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

No need to apologise, I did not see anything in your writing that I found offensive or confrontational in any inappropriate way.

I was merely speaking to the use of the word "need" where you say "we ar being told what we need to hear" in your first post and the further use of it in your post to Nolo, referring to what he "needed" to hear.

I thought perhaps you were impling some sort of "conspiracy" in the first instance and perhaps I misinterpreted you in the second.

It's always odd to me when someone uses the term "need" in reference to others since it always brings up the issue of how this need is established.

Peace.

 

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Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

Only you could be stupid enough to use the initials PP (peepee - get it ?).

More to the fact I simply can't believe you could type, let alone use the internet. I'm very impressed. Give yourself a pat on the back.

Why don't you post in some of your ideas on your DIY techniques (hehehe)? I'm sure the time-travel enthusiasts on here would love that.

pja

 

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Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

Hey I've been using this for ages.

Look, what I said about the door wasn't that bad, it was a good idea, it would have worked... maybe if we re-wrote Newton's Laws

P.S. are you familiar with the Blinovitch Limitation Effect of simple temporal displacement. I just thought I'd remind you that you risk not being able to change whatever you are trying to - silly little boy.

 

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I wasn\'t aware the amorology department had enough funds for the internet (nm)

 

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Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

Peter. Heh...heh...heh. He said Peter. Heh...heh...heh.
at WOOD. Heh...heh...heh. He said Wood. Heh...heh...heh.

 

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One good response deserves another...

See my response to Peter-at-Wood.

 

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Re:One good response deserves another...

What are you on about Nolo? Leave us and personal jokes alone !

 

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Re:Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

If I read you correctly here, I think you are implying that the above "Peter J. Atwood" is NOT the same one we all know and love. I agree. That message is TOTALLY out of character for "our" Peter.

As far as your response, I don't think most folks below got it.

 

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Re:I wasn\'t aware the amorology department had enough funds for the internet

Oh we do darling, don't underestimate the men in white

pja

 

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Re:Re:Re:Re:Argh - can\'t think of a title !

Argh! no ! what have I done ?

My dear little PP and I are obviously causing a lot of confusion!

Hey I was only kidding - I wouldn't do this to someone I didn't know. We were just playing. Sorry everyone!

pja

(please ofrgive me Lee and Nolo! - I wasn't being horrible to her!

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SORRY...

Argh! no ! what have I done ?

My dear little PP and I are obviously causing a lot of confusion!

Hey I was only kidding - I wouldn't do this to someone I didn't know. We were just playing. Sorry everyone!

pja

(please forgive me Lee and Nolo! - I wasn't being horrible to her!

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Re:SORRY...

Yeah - I'm sorry too. Pete didn't mean anything - he was only kidding with me. Trust me, he's a lovely guy when you get the chance to get to know him, and he certainly wouldn't be that abusive to someone who he didn't know. Once again I'm sorry for our messing around. I know this is a serious board and I will only now post in proper stuff. Sorry Lee, Nolo and Mop and everyone else.. pleaseeeeeeeeee forgive me

. Thanx

PP

 

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Re:Re:SORRY...

Hey, no problem. You all had some "thing" going there that went right over my head, sorry I missed it entirely.

I also wouldn't want to be one who says this board should be taken TOO seriously tho. Humor is good for the "soul" and time travel CAN get pretty silly when you think about it.